[MMO] World of Tanks

[LurkerPrime]

grinded to 260k so far in my obj 212
only 60k more to the 261 !

I was skeptical at first on how much I'de like the 261. Now that I have the tracks and the engine (thanks x5), it rocks. I also have clutch braking and BiA, so it pretty much turns on a dime and is faster than an IS-7. I love seeing E-100s and Mice on the other team, as hitting them with AP rounds for 1000+ dmg is very easy, since they are large and slow. The only thing lacking is the explosion radius, so splashing people behind buildings, or hurting groups of tanks is out of the question (could do this on the 212, but not very effective for the 261). The worst thing about the 261 (or any tier 8 arty) is that you are constanly put in arty party matches (4-5 arty on each side). These aren't any fun for anyone really, but they happen more often than you would want them to. I really think they should cap arty at a max of 3 in pub games.

I got the x5 on pretty much all my tanks that mattered over the weekend. Ended up gaining an extra 10k+ in free xp during the process also, which is nice.

I started the grind on my M103 and at least got the turret unlocked with the x5 help. I thought I wouldn't like it, but its decently bouncy (unlike the the T34). I ended up soloing an IS-4, and he only hit me once, while I repeately put shots through his drivers hatch. It plays alot like an IS-7, just keep the front to the enemy and you got a good chance of bouncing shots, however the sides/rear are pretty damn weak. I'm sure it'll be even better when I unlock the best gun.

 

[stag3]

so are you using AP pretty much exclusively? most of the forum posts for the 261 say carry a couple HE for when you don't have an angle but want to do "some" damage
but for the most part use AP since it's so accurate....

i was able to grind a good 20-30k yesterday due to platooning with my friend and he took out his hummel to grind, we just kept at it, it was actually pretty fun coordinating attacks and firing @ the same time, we took out a few tanks so quickly from full health to dead (ie within the span of 1 second) they just typed "WTF" in all chat LOL. i think i've hated grinding due to just doing it by myself in pubs, i need to find an arty buddy to play with to get to the 261 faster.

so do you think next up i should go for the GW TYPE E? or the T92
i know the t92 has insane splash damage, and the type E has better armor, but really
no need for armor for arty imo....

i'd be starting from scratch on the german side, and the priest on the american side.

 

[Genx87]

Playing my IS4 in a match where each side had 4 Tier 9s and some T40 comes with a Panzerjager. The team starts bitching and our E75 is pissed. He starts chasing the panzerjager to ram and kill him and tells people to let him have it. So I am watching this as I am runing parralel but slightly ahead of this chase scene. I turn to block the panzerjager and he got squished between us and died. We crushed the other team even with that distraction. The E75 and I ran through the city on live oaks and went crazy.

 

[LurkerPrime]

so are you using AP pretty much exclusively? most of the forum posts for the 261 say carry a couple HE for when you don't have an angle but want to do "some" damage
but for the most part use AP since it's so accurate....

i was able to grind a good 20-30k yesterday due to platooning with my friend and he took out his hummel to grind, we just kept at it, it was actually pretty fun coordinating attacks and firing @ the same time, we took out a few tanks so quickly from full health to dead (ie within the span of 1 second) they just typed "WTF" in all chat LOL. i think i've hated grinding due to just doing it by myself in pubs, i need to find an arty buddy to play with to get to the 261 faster.

so do you think next up i should go for the GW TYPE E? or the T92
i know the t92 has insane splash damage, and the type E has better armor, but really
no need for armor for arty imo....

i'd be starting from scratch on the german side, and the priest on the american side.

I run half AP and half HE. For ISs and french tanks, I'll stick with HE since a direct hit will pen for more damage. For T110s, E100s, Maus, E75s, TDs I'll use mostly my AP. I usually platoon with my brother and he plays his GWTiger (he's still 150k or so away from tier 8). What we'll try to do on the big guys is he'll shoot first to track (almost guarenteed), and then I'll put an AP round through them for a quick double tap of death.

I think after you get the 261, the innacurracy of the other arties might be very disapointing. I'm not sure I would survive another arty grind. I would probably go the American arty route anyway, since I have a 100% one skilled crew in my baracks. That and the T92 splash damage seems crazy.

edit: Best part about using AP, is that it blows up gas tanks nicely (causing a fire), not to mention ammo racks. Once my second skill is maxed, i'm moving my gunner to dead eye and I predict seeing alot more of both of those.

 

[stag3]

yea the grind is rough, it's probably been over 5-6 weeks since i unlocked the 212 or longer, and its been a pain.

i finally unlocked everything on the lorraine so now begins the 180k xp or so for the batchat

also im at 50k or so with the amx50 100 on the way to the 120

hellcat is fully upgraded now, it's not to bad with the 90mm as i feel i can actually do some damage but the camo value sucks, i have a net and no matter how far i am as soon as i fire once, i start getting hit or artied. crew is at 100%, not sure if i want repair or camo first as i think the T30 camo value sucks regardless

 

[Genx87]

Looks like info came out about the IS4 in 7.3. 2300 hit point, top speed 43kph, and a 122mm gun with the following stats

4.97 rpm
270/400/68
440/440/530
.38
3.4 seconds

 

[Skott]

One of the funniest things I have seen and heard is when you get a platoon with a T1 tank in it. People naturally bitch and even threaten to shoot the tank. Then someone says, you can ram it but not shoot it. 'What?' I say? 'That's the rules', they say. Okay so who made that freakin rule? Certainly not WG. LMAO

 

[LurkerPrime]

Looks like info came out about the IS4 in 7.3. 2300 hit point, top speed 43kph, and a 122mm gun with the following stats

4.97 rpm
270/400/68
440/440/530
.38
3.4 seconds

slightly better pen, less damage, and I'm not sure on that reload speed, but from memory looks like it would be slightly faster. The important thing is if they are going to fix the driver hatch weakpoint or not, and will they change any armor values. That and how long will it take to get up to speed, 43kph doesn't matter if you can only reach that going down a hill. The extra 150hp will be nice also.

 

[Genx87]

slightly better pen, less damage, and I'm not sure on that reload speed, but from memory looks like it would be slightly faster. The important thing is if they are going to fix the driver hatch weakpoint or not, and will they change any armor values. That and how long will it take to get up to speed, 43kph doesn't matter if you can only reach that going down a hill. The extra 150hp will be nice also.

It will be interesting to see if that info holds up. If it does I see German players giving up or flocking to the Soviet line. That gun will make even the Maus's turret hurt. While having better mobility. I think they are prepping a need for the leopard I myself. Or take the brakes off the E100 and let it go is expected speed of 40kph.

The game is going to have an interesting balance issue coming up. Heavies are reliably getting close to or over 40kph. With the size and layout of the maps. Are mediums losing their purpose?

 

[stag3]

slightly better pen, less damage, and I'm not sure on that reload speed, but from memory looks like it would be slightly faster. The important thing is if they are going to fix the driver hatch weakpoint or not, and will they change any armor values. That and how long will it take to get up to speed, 43kph doesn't matter if you can only reach that going down a hill. The extra 150hp will be nice also.

i read the drivers hatch is now 200, so that weakspot is completely gone, it may be feasible to play it hull down like the is-7 now. odd that it will have more health than the is-7

 

[LurkerPrime]

It will be interesting to see if that info holds up. If it does I see German players giving up or flocking to the Soviet line. That gun will make even the Maus's turret hurt. While having better mobility. I think they are prepping a need for the leopard I myself. Or take the brakes off the E100 and let it go is expected speed of 40kph.

The game is going to have an interesting balance issue coming up. Heavies are reliably getting close to or over 40kph. With the size and layout of the maps. Are mediums losing their purpose?

With the IS4s decent top speed, armor, and awesome seeming gun, I think I"m not even going to bother grinding out a Maus. I still have the E100 unlocked and haven't bought it. The big guns pen is crap, and I really dont have any issues penning an E100 or a Maus with the IS-7. Its just going to get easier with an IS-4. They are either going to have to up the pen on the german line, give them more armor (buff that lower glacias), and/or let them move faster. No point in having a maus if the only thing thats going to bounce off you is other german tanks.


If they ever introduce garage battles with capture points and larger maps, I could see the mediums having more of a purpose. Another problem is your comparing tier 9 mediums to basically tier 10 heavies. Take a tier 9 medium and compare it to the tier 9 heavies, IS4, E75, M103, (french tank I can't remember) and they can hold thier weight in a battle and have alot more speed. If they introduce tier 10 mediums, it would be scary. 2k hp, good gun, average armor and probably 60kph. Talk about an arties nightmare.

 

[Ns1]

ugh anniversary discounts over. good thing i bought those vents last night before bed.

 

[Skott]

T-28 Prototype researched. Time for a break methinks.

 

[stag3]

how is the t25/2? as bad as everyone says?

 

[Nintendesert]

how is the t25/2? as bad as everyone says?

The gun is bad, it underperforms badly at the tier it's at. The speed is nice and so is the turret but that gun should really be a 105 and not a 90mm one. It's basically a slower hellcat with worse MM.

 

[Fire&Blood]

I would have liked the is4 to stay at tier 9, it will no longer have the appeal of fighting higher tier tanks.

T-28 Prototype researched. Time for a break methinks.

I as aiming for the T30 as well but can't handle grinding anymore. I'll be taking a long break from game as well, planning to enjoy outdoor actvities as much as possible.


I had my 5 yr old nephew here over the weekend. Kid killed 3 tanks in his very first game with the m41. Got me thinking, driving tanks takes a lot concentration and patience, at times I feel like why even bother when you can do same effect in an arty while multitasking and at 1/10 of keystrokes and attention needed.

 

[PowerYoga]

well, arty is just whack a mole. Shoot and scoot. Higher tier arty shoot once a minute so its even less keystrokes involved.

i read the drivers hatch is now 200, so that weakspot is completely gone, it may be feasible to play it hull down like the is-7 now. odd that it will have more health than the is-7

Not very surprised. They said the IS4 is supposed to be the "heavily armored" soviet line... but it still has only 140 frontal armor (angled). Also have absolutely no idea why they buffed the speed, it doesn't need it.

Unless they address the driver hatch (rumors will be rumors), the flat shoulders (120mm there) and the lower glacis (120mm unangled), the IS4 will remain unviable as a beefy "maus" tank. It has more holes in the front than swiss cheese, and any good tier 10 gun will put a hole through the flimsy 140mm frontal armor. In comparison, the E-75 is only vulnerable when you're up close and turns fast enough to be fairly invulnerable to tier 9 and below rounds.

The gun is debatable. Higher pen than the S-70 and less damage means it can't PAB as well as it could before, though the slightly higher RPM is nice.

 

[Ns1]

I take back every bad thing i've said about the KV. Fully upgraded, it's not too bad! Get grouped in a bunch of high tier matches, but a few hits and weee 20-30k credits.

 

[Merad]

I bought a KV over the weekend to grind it out before 7.3 hits... the 152mm derp gun produces some truly LOL moments.

 

[mclee025]

I bought a KV over the weekend to grind it out before 7.3 hits... the 152mm derp gun produces some truly LOL moments.

What's the best guess as to when 7.3 will come through? I'm slowly grinding through the Russian heavies for that reason also.

The KV with the derp is my favorite tanks and is a pretty easy grind. With the derp gun, it makes the KV tank effective in just about any tiered match. The higher tiered matches are better since the gun's earning potential is better in those with the bigger juicer targets -- though a lot more dangerous.

I bagged a M103 with three derp hits over the weekend. Also, in that same match, I got two nice hits (one from 400M) on an E-75 knocking him down maybe 40 or 50 percent before he one shot me. In a different match, I finished off a Ferdie with a couple of frontal shots. I don't have any other tank that could do that kind of damage on the big boy tanks like that.

 

[Nintendesert]

What's the best guess as to when 7.3 will come through? I'm slowly grinding through the Russian heavies for that reason also.

The KV with the derp is my favorite tanks and is a pretty easy grind. With the derp gun, it makes the KV tank effective in just about any tiered match. The higher tiered matches are better since the gun's earning potential is better in those with the bigger juicer targets -- though a lot more dangerous.

I bagged a M103 with three derp hits over the weekend. Also, in that same match, I got two nice hits (one from 400M) on an E-75 knocking him down maybe 40 or 50 percent before he one shot me. In a different match, I finished off a Ferdie with a couple of frontal shots. I don't have any other tank that could do that kind of damage on the big boy tanks like that.

It'll be awhile before 7.3 so you have time to grind out that Soviet heavy line.

I too like the KV derp. It's just hilariously fun. I like all those low tier tanks with derps too. All of them are just so fun. KV with a derp though is more fun due to the ability to really ruin some bigboy tank's day. :biggrin:

 

[Ns1]

when I'm in the KV I feel like a mobile arty. I've been playing the church too and while I love the high ROF I definitely miss that derp'age.

 

[Harabec]

I have a silly problem with my Pershing - it just isn't much fun. Have vents and stabilizer (plus binocs til I have credits for a rammer), it is fully upgraded but I'm not having any fun in it. On the other hand I do not want to sell it, as it eventually leads to the Patton and it is quite an effective tank. What I really want is a Panther II/E-50...(currently grinding free xp to unlock the T7 Panther).

 

[Merad]

The game is going to have an interesting balance issue coming up. Heavies are reliably getting close to or over 40kph. With the size and layout of the maps. Are mediums losing their purpose?

This is exactly what happened IRL. Post WW2 medium and heavy tank lines were replaced with just the main battle tank. In game, many of the heavies already have their speed neefed in the name of game balance... if they continue adding post war tanks to the heavy line they'll have to keep them or artificially buff mediums.

 

[Possessed Freak]

I have a silly problem with my Pershing - it just isn't much fun. Have vents and stabilizer (plus binocs til I have credits for a rammer), it is fully upgraded but I'm not having any fun in it. On the other hand I do not want to sell it, as it eventually leads to the Patton and it is quite an effective tank. What I really want is a Panther II/E-50...(currently grinding free xp to unlock the T7 Panther).

Same, I miss my T20. Sure the Pershing is technically a better tank but it just seems... lacking.