[MMO] World of Tanks

[wetech]

How do you guys keep track of all the different tanks you face?

I met an AT 2 for the first time yesterday. He was slugging it out with a heavy. I was in my M2 Med with derp. I said OK, Tier V TD, strong frontal armor, but vulnerable from its flanks. I'll use my speed and get around it. Get to the side and aim for the rear hull, derp...no damage. Ok, strong side armor too, he's still distracted i'll get behind him and derp him good. Get right behind him and aim for the flat part of hull between the tracks. Derp!...no damage, uhh, lower part of the hull? Derp...no damage. turret area? please? Derp...14 damage. Ahh fudge, by that time someone one shot me. I didn't even knock out a freaking module.

I'm slowly learning who to go against and who to run away from, but geez there are a lot of tanks to remember.

For a lot of tanks, especially at lower tiers, shoot for "obvious" weakspots in armor: commander's cupolas, machinegun ports, hatches, etc. That will help a lot.

 

[Genx87]

Plus sometimes the RNG effs you. My E50M bounced three times off the side of a Type 59 from like 30 meters.

 

[microAmp]

The derp gun on the M2 medium is 38mm penetration (average) and 175 damage (average). Rear and sides of AT 2 is 101mm armor.

Just looked at armor stat locations for AT 2. Upper part on rear is 102mm, engine area is 51mm and 76mm depending on location. The former has an angle of 45 degrees giving it closer to 75mm armor.

If you low rolled the penetration 25% lower, call it 28.5 mm and low rolled the damage 175 by 25% giving 131.25 damage.

Supposedly the formula I thought for HE was damage gets reduced by 50% right away. So your 131.25 low roll gets to be 65.625 now. Then the penetration divide by armor thickness. 28.5 mm penetration divide by 75mm is 0.38. Take 0.38 and multiply to 65.625 damage = 24.9375 damage. Pretty close to your 22, change armor angle just a bit more for more protection and 22 seems to be right.

I think that is how the formula works.

I don't think derp guns are worth it unless you shoot premium (gold) rounds to penetrate or they do massive amounts of damage, like the KV-2 700 damage.

Also, while the cupola is a weak spot on the AT 2, it is 102mm thick! You did right on flanking him to the rear.

 

[Possessed Freak]

Derp guns have obvious strong points as well as drawbacks. The T82 105 in tier 3 is great because it can one shot everything in its tier plus damage others in tiers higher than it (this is the same 105 derp that the M4 got in tier 5). The M2 75 derp is not as good as it is more reliant on lighter armed tanks/td's. Hit the SU76 and one shot it. Hit the M3 Lee and it laughs at you. The 105 derp can easily one shot an M3 Lee. The 75 just doesn't cut it.

The 122 derp at tier 5 (KV1/1S or the SU85) is pretty damn good until you hit some heavily armored stuff. The KV-2 with 152 at tier 6 is equally good. But the SU-152 getting the same derp at tier 7... questionable, unless you are flinging the HEAT round that was removed from the KV-2.

 

[skipsneeky2]

I raged with the Russian heavy tanks with the stock gun,i worked my line up to the IS and pretty much each tank equaled hours of frustrated as the stock gun just wow.

Love the 122mm i have on my IS but for fun i put the 100mm on my KV-85 and can certainly say that tank is now much more enjoyable in its configuration.

 

[Genx87]

I miss the days of the KV and the 152mm in tier 5. One shot everything except some heavies.

 

[BoT]

@drnickriviera did you shoot HE? that might have been it. if they don't pen he might not face a lot of damage if you don't have good splash

@microAmp Thanks

@Craig234 I had 8k damage but only 2 kills. got the mastery 1st class because the earned experience was not actually that high. the 5X multi pushed it but that doesn't count towards mastery badges.

 

[Craig234]

I think 8k damage should pretty much get mastery.

 

[drnickriviera]

Yes I was using HE. I know why I did no damage, it's more of a comment on how hard it is to remember every tank you come across. You have one TD that has paper armor, then the next one has pure unobtanium

Some random questions and thoughts.

1. I was watching some youtube videos on camo, and it talked about being 15m behind the bush (you can't see through the bush in sniper mode?) One comment said that no longer works, I did some searching and all I could find was during one update that the 15m still worked, but it was from the end of the barrel. correct?

2. I was watching another battle after i died and one guy was tracked, but was able to repair it in about 1 second. What does it take to repair it that fast? I imagine he had a toolbox, but how many repair skills would the crew need?

3. Don't you hate it when you try to get the first victory of the day, you've had 3 straight losses, but with great kills and damage. Then on your first win you die in 30s without firing a shot.

 

[wetech]

Yes I was using HE. I know why I did no damage, it's more of a comment on how hard it is to remember every tank you come across. You have one TD that has paper armor, then the next one has pure unobtanium

Some random questions and thoughts.

1. I was watching some youtube videos on camo, and it talked about being 15m behind the bush (you can't see through the bush in sniper mode?) One comment said that no longer works, I did some searching and all I could find was during one update that the 15m still worked, but it was from the end of the barrel. correct?

2. I was watching another battle after i died and one guy was tracked, but was able to repair it in about 1 second. What does it take to repair it that fast? I imagine he had a toolbox, but how many repair skills would the crew need?

3. Don't you hate it when you try to get the first victory of the day, you've had 3 straight losses, but with great kills and damage. Then on your first win you die in 30s without firing a shot.

1) 15m is still correct. If you go into sniper mode and the bush is opaque, you'll still get it's camo bonus if you fire.
2) He used a small repair kit (the consumable). Protip: put it in the "5" spot for your hotkeys. That way you can double tap 5 to repair tracks quickly
3) Yes.

 

[PowerYoga]

3. Don't you hate it when you try to get the first victory of the day, you've had 3 straight losses, but with great kills and damage. Then on your first win you die in 30s without firing a shot.

Yesterday I was on my caern, ended up being the only one on a completely exposed flank. Died after 3 tanks swarmed me and I only got 2 shots off, KV2 derped me in the back for a bajillion damage.

we end up winning the match, I get like 500 exp. I stopped playing for the day.

 

[drnickriviera]

son of a beach, i didn't know repair kits could be used that way. I always used them after the crew fixed the track to bring it back to full use. No telling how many times i've been killed because they couldn't fix the track fast enough.

On a side note, as long as this games been out, WG really need to work on more tutorials and documentation. It took me a while to figure out how to send communications directly to teammates.

 

[wetech]

son of a beach, i didn't know repair kits could be used that way. I always used them after the crew fixed the track to bring it back to full use. No telling how many times i've been killed because they couldn't fix the track fast enough.

On a side note, as long as this games been out, WG really need to work on more tutorials and documentation. It took me a while to figure out how to send communications directly to teammates.

partially broken tracks don't matter. doesn't affect performance at all. things that are partially broken (yellow) that you may want to consider repairing with the kit: gun (accuracy), turret (questionable), engine (almost definitely), ammo (double reload time sucks).

 

[microAmp]

Yes I was using HE. I know why I did no damage, it's more of a comment on how hard it is to remember every tank you come across. You have one TD that has paper armor, then the next one has pure unobtanium

2. I was watching another battle after i died and one guy was tracked, but was able to repair it in about 1 second. What does it take to repair it that fast? I imagine he had a toolbox, but how many repair skills would the crew need?

For you 2nd question, I would say some bushes don't work quite as well or perhaps as intended. I would roll up to a particular bush, can't remember what map or bush anymore and I always got spotted.

Perhaps due to the way the bush is situated, think pine cone shape but there was a lot of emptiness below the fat part. Perhaps I got spotted due to that.

 

[datalink7]

Some info on the upcoming individual missions:

http://ftr.wot-news.com/2014/11/26/individual-missions-official-info/

I really want the OBJ 260 but it's going to be hard to get.

 

[BoT]

Obj 260 looks nice
http://ftr.wot-news.com/2014/10/10/straight-outta-supertest-object-260-model-1945/

 

[datalink7]

Obj 260 looks nice
http://ftr.wot-news.com/2014/10/10/straight-outta-supertest-object-260-model-1945/

Yeah if you open it up in Tank Inspector it looks really nice. The frontal armor is awesome, and it has a pretty decent gun. It rides higher than an IS7 so hiding the lower plate will be more difficult, but the lower plate isn't the worst ever (220 mm about at normal ranges), so it has a chance to bounce some things. Upper plate and turret is similar to IS7. But it has more penetration (260mm) and more DPM, is a lot faster and a lot more accurate.

Those are old stats on the gun. Now it does 440 alpha with 260mm of penetration.

 

[Possessed Freak]

Some info on the upcoming individual missions:

http://ftr.wot-news.com/2014/11/26/individual-missions-official-info/

I really want the OBJ 260 but it's going to be hard to get.

This gets REAL easy if it can be done out of order.

 

[Skott]

Watched Jingles's patch 9.5 preview. Looking forward to the Firefly and the British TDs. I like a TD with a moving turret. I sense more grinding for me to come in next patch.

 

[datalink7]

I'm really really looking forward to the firefly. Not so much because of its capabilities, but because it is one of my favorite historical tanks. Same reason I love my ferdinand.

 

[PowerYoga]

the 17 lber feels so gimped in this game though. The sound it makes and the damage it does... maybe I just feel like it should be a lot more powerful since my first exposure to it was from company of heroes. It does have good pen values though.

 

[stag3]

so nice to have a night off from the campaign
my wn8 has been tanking like crazy since the start of it hah

 

[datalink7]

I've had a horrible week. Playing ok (2k wn8) but less than 50% win rate over 120 games. Only time that was ok was when I platooned with you stag3. 57% over the games we played.

 

[stag3]

yea we did pretty well, we can toon up after the campaign is done
i have like no desire to play or grind at all since we sit around 3-4 hours a night waiting to get into battles right now ugh....

 

[Craig234]

If you want gold, there are nice deals on Amazon purchases until Dec 15, about 15% bonus gold, and gold bonuses are very rare. $100 = 29,600 gold.