[MMO] World of Tanks

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MongGrel

Lifer
Dec 3, 2013
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I didn't even know WOWS was up I beta'd WOWP a long time flying IL's as werido mega fighters, and have a E-75 and a lot of tanks rotting lately.

Might actually game again for grins and giggles to see whats up.
 

Genx87

Lifer
Apr 8, 2002
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I was hoping to get into WOWSP beta. Im only logging in for the daily reward. Haven't played since Dec or early Jan.
 

Possessed Freak

Diamond Member
Nov 4, 1999
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Stay with the M46 Patton as it's much better than the M48.

So I fly out to SF tomorrow. Looks like the first day we'll be visiting the WG office... wonder if they have any codes laying around

Good showing. The technical difficulties during the 3rd place match was maddening for viewers, I can only imagine what it was like there. I sure hope somebody did a screen cap of when ruukil (spelling) was swapping out a monitor. It looked like he was caught stealing from the cookie jar.

Dorf was *so* annoying to watch. I hope they remove it from the rotation. Every other map has more than 2 strats to play. Sorry you guys lost in the final, it was hysterical to see the o shit ending for the simp team. Amazing comeback there.

You doing it again next season?
 

stag3

Diamond Member
Feb 7, 2005
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haha so i literally had 14 games in a row of 20-40% win chances as i wrote them down thinking law of averages, my 15th game, 12% win chance.

good thing is i'm enjoying the e3, this thing is a blast altho the armor is weird, sometimes nothing can pen me, other times every shot pens me...
 

biostud

Lifer
Feb 27, 2003
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I have been playing the tiger II a lot and grinding for the top gun. Before I got the top gun my win rate was ~55%, after getting the top gun it is dropped to ~47%. What gives?
 

Genx87

Lifer
Apr 8, 2002
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I'm beginning to think somebody at wargaming hates me. So I fired up the game over teh weekend and played with my fiancees son. He is in the clan Celts. For the past 2 months he has avg 69% win rates. I'm thinking this will be fun to finally win. I think the poor kid will never play with me again. Game after game of 40% win chance rates. And the few games we had a chance to win at over 60% we still lost. Ended with 27% win rate for the weekend /sadface
 
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dud

Diamond Member
Feb 18, 2001
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Has anyone noticed a change in the playability of WoT recently? My client dled a client update about 2 weeks ago and my win/loss ration changed dramatically after that point. It seems much harder/worse after the update.
 

Possessed Freak

Diamond Member
Nov 4, 1999
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Seriously, all this crap about %chance to win is just that: crap. Remove that option (or better yet, uninstall XVM) and it will be that much more enjoyable to play. People get stuck in the concept of thinking they don't have a chance. I have triple platooned with 60%ers and been bottom tier, our win chance is something like 9x%, because XVM thinks that 3 tier 8s can carry a bunch of retard tier 10s. Well, we can't. We can get the best damage, we can make a good attempt. But it probably is not going to happen.

Chance to win is a debbie downer, you play worse, you get disheartened and you set yourself up to fail.

Dud- the big change is to the dispersion mechanics. It is much harder to snap shot. You actually have to aim shots. It makes my KV-2 impossible to corner fight (which upsets me). But that's about it.
 

datalink7

Lifer
Jan 23, 2001
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Seriously, all this crap about %chance to win is just that: crap. Remove that option (or better yet, uninstall XVM) and it will be that much more enjoyable to play. People get stuck in the concept of thinking they don't have a chance. I have triple platooned with 60%ers and been bottom tier, our win chance is something like 9x%, because XVM thinks that 3 tier 8s can carry a bunch of retard tier 10s. Well, we can't. We can get the best damage, we can make a good attempt. But it probably is not going to happen.

Chance to win is a debbie downer, you play worse, you get disheartened and you set yourself up to fail.

Dud- the big change is to the dispersion mechanics. It is much harder to snap shot. You actually have to aim shots. It makes my KV-2 impossible to corner fight (which upsets me). But that's about it.

Yeah I turned off the percent chance to win. It isn't accurate but it does mess with your head, which makes you play worse IMO.

I do keep individual stats on. I find it useful for when I engage someone to get some kind of idea whether they are going to be stupid or skillful, as my engagement tactics can change depending. Now, it isn't always true in that regard, as someone could have botted for 40k games and then played at a Unicum level for the past 5k, and their WN8 will be 500. But overall I still find it a useful metric.

But the chance to win is garbage. Turn that off.
 

microAmp

Diamond Member
Jul 5, 2000
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While it's the only tank I've done it in, I just got my 3rd Mark of Excellence in the Comet, 95.67%.

It was was easy to get into the 90% range but a bit of struggle for that last 5%. I also had pulled my win percent from 50% to 58% might still be climbing.

http://wotreplays.com/site/1713855#erlenberg-microamp-comet

Apparently, that is the best game I've done in Comet too. Looking at my Comet stats page, XP and damage are the same to the game.

Sadly, I did sling some premium rounds at start, desperate to get that MoE... :/
 
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JoJoman88

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Yeah I turned off the percent chance to win. It isn't accurate but it does mess with your head, which makes you play worse IMO.

I do keep individual stats on. I find it useful for when I engage someone to get some kind of idea whether they are going to be stupid or skillful, as my engagement tactics can change depending. Now, it isn't always true in that regard, as someone could have botted for 40k games and then played at a Unicum level for the past 5k, and their WN8 will be 500. But overall I still find it a useful metric.

But the chance to win is garbage. Turn that off.

Like you Datalink7, i like to see who's good on the other team. The XVM win % has been so far off as of late that it's not worth looking at. On Himmelsdorf yesterday had a true(checked his stats after the match) purple and two blues in low damage/high rate of fire E-25 and T37 mix and it wasn't good news for the 60% chance to win team. The E-25 did under 400 damage and the T 37 not much better. We won 15 to 4, so XVM got it very wrong that time.

XVM is a tool. As a tool people use it differently. You can turn off the win%, i usually don't even look at it until after i'm dead anyway.
 

JumBie

Golden Member
May 2, 2011
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Oh god. I tried out the British line of tanks for the new "on track" event, let me tell you, after having played the Covenater I have vowed to give up on this event. I have never been so bored in my life, there is nothing fun about these tanks, they are just tedious and boring. I have given up, not going to bother with this anymore.
 

microAmp

Diamond Member
Jul 5, 2000
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It gets better at the Cromwell but I think it gets better at Comet. I have Centurion I and it's just a meh tank to me. Turret armor can bounce but don't rely on it. Gun on Cent I seems okay, highest penetration value of the other mediums I have at 226 but it's DPM compared to others is a bit lower. At least you'll penetrate more often...

It won't be a keeper tank for me that is for sure. Only one I've kept is Comet.
 

JumBie

Golden Member
May 2, 2011
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It gets better at the Cromwell but I think it gets better at Comet. I have Centurion I and it's just a meh tank to me. Turret armor can bounce but don't rely on it. Gun on Cent I seems okay, highest penetration value of the other mediums I have at 226 but it's DPM compared to others is a bit lower. At least you'll penetrate more often...

It won't be a keeper tank for me that is for sure. Only one I've kept is Comet.

Strange that you kept the comet, I see a lot of people complaining about its gun.
 

Tsavo

Platinum Member
Sep 29, 2009
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Has anyone noticed a change in the playability of WoT recently? My client dled a client update about 2 weeks ago and my win/loss ration changed dramatically after that point. It seems much harder/worse after the update.

Not in the past two weeks, no.

Last weekend was absolutely brutal for retardville though. My Easy 8 went down 5% PR. Easily 75% of the losses were complete rolls and I was the last one alive. All weekend long it was people not filling their roles correctly; heavies camping sniper points and generally being everywhere but where they are supposed to be.

Or, crowds of people going to one spot and leaving the rest of the map wide open.

Lights and scouts camping base leaving everyone blind. Arties driving all over while not firing a shot. Et cetera.

Granted, these things happen all the time, but the derp was epic this weekend.

Myself in a Chaffee, and a TD rolled 8 tanks all the way up to cap, yet the other THIRTEEN tanks on our team got rolled by seven tanks. We lost cap by 10 seconds.

In yet another game, FIVE tanks engaged a Charioteer that was only 60% health...I've never seen so many missed shots in my life. Five, then Four, then Three, then TWO left before they finally bagged him. Meanwhile, the rest of his team rolled the map.

This is the wrong game for 50% of the people that play it.
 

Possessed Freak

Diamond Member
Nov 4, 1999
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anyone else noticed that accuracy wasn't nerfed, and if anything buffed overall?

As I understand it: un-aimed shots are a complete gamble now. You now should allow your aiming circle to shrink before taking a shot. This has completely changed the way I take shots. Before this patch, the dispersion was very center heavy. You could confidently take snap shots or half aimed shots. Now you can't.

When I am in a fast refire tank (M3 Lee for example), I routinely took a shot when the target first appeared, full bloom before stopping. The concept was that the non aimed shot had a decent chance to hit. By the time I reloaded, the bloom would be gone and I would have followup shots with precision. Now I can't take that first shot (well I can in desperation). There is little point. It will most likely miss, sometimes with comical and questionable physics as my shell leaves and hits the ground 10m in front of my tank.

I am unaware of a single buff to the dispersion mechanics this patch, aimed or un-aimed.
 

VenomXTF

Senior member
May 3, 2004
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Good showing. The technical difficulties during the 3rd place match was maddening for viewers, I can only imagine what it was like there. I sure hope somebody did a screen cap of when ruukil (spelling) was swapping out a monitor. It looked like he was caught stealing from the cookie jar.

Dorf was *so* annoying to watch. I hope they remove it from the rotation. Every other map has more than 2 strats to play. Sorry you guys lost in the final, it was hysterical to see the o shit ending for the simp team. Amazing comeback there.

You doing it again next season?

Thanks! We could of won 1st, but screwed up the map picking (our team wanted to ban Himmels).

The match vs SIMP was insane. We were all in shock because we thought it was a sure loss. 2 vs 5 and the caller just said "I don't know what to do, just play it how you want". So Halo and I just decided to be patient and look for an opening. Amazingly it worked out and we were able to kill 5 tanks. Halo got all the credit though lol
 

Possessed Freak

Diamond Member
Nov 4, 1999
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Thanks! We could of won 1st, but screwed up the map picking (our team wanted to ban Himmels).

The match vs SIMP was insane. We were all in shock because we thought it was a sure loss. 2 vs 5 and the caller just said "I don't know what to do, just play it how you want". So Halo and I just decided to be patient and look for an opening. Amazingly it worked out and we were able to kill 5 tanks. Halo got all the credit though lol

Fun fact, the production team cut the twitch feed at 100% cap while the commentators were still saying it is not over yet. Talk about amateur hour. Luckily they had it on replay so we got to see the final sequence. But the chat feed was funny because people didn't understand the cap delay, the kill extension, etc.
 

stag3

Diamond Member
Feb 7, 2005
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It gets better at the Cromwell but I think it gets better at Comet. I have Centurion I and it's just a meh tank to me. Turret armor can bounce but don't rely on it. Gun on Cent I seems okay, highest penetration value of the other mediums I have at 226 but it's DPM compared to others is a bit lower. At least you'll penetrate more often...

It won't be a keeper tank for me that is for sure. Only one I've kept is Comet.

i found the opposite, the line peaks at the cromwell, then the comet is a slower version of the cromwell with a horrible gun. both centurions were so slow, and there's a reason the fv4202 is being replaced....
 

microAmp

Diamond Member
Jul 5, 2000
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i found the opposite, the line peaks at the cromwell, then the comet is a slower version of the cromwell with a horrible gun. both centurions were so slow, and there's a reason the fv4202 is being replaced....

You are right, gun on the Comet is really meh, high rate of fire and that's it's only good mark. Penetration is a bit of disappiontment. I couldn't pen a T-29 when his front hull was angled in my favor. 3 shots, 3 non pens, flipped over to premium rounds and easy goes.

Hull down the Comet is better, it's armor does bounce quite a bit and you get 12 degrees of gun depression.

No comment on Cents... lulz, I agree...
 

drnickriviera

Platinum Member
Jan 30, 2001
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So I got my first skill for the KV-1 and i'm wondering what to do next. Have 4 X repair and 1 Clutch braking. Should I retrain them to brothers in arms and do the same thing again for the 2nd skill?
 

datalink7

Lifer
Jan 23, 2001
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So I got my first skill for the KV-1 and i'm wondering what to do next. Have 4 X repair and 1 Clutch braking. Should I retrain them to brothers in arms and do the same thing again for the 2nd skill?

Generally I wait to do BIA until I've got my second skill complete.

Retrain commander for 6th sense, then repairs.

Repairs next on driver.

Radio Operator Situational Awareness.

Gunner go for snap shot.

Retrain loader for Safe Stowage and then go repairs again.
 
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