The service guide states that the A10-7300 has 4 CPU cores and 4 MB of L2 cache. It runs at 2 GHz, and has the maximum Turbo Core frequency of 3.2 GHz. The A10-7300 fits into 19 Watt TDP.
To give it some reference point: My a10-7850k took 290W at the wall
Well, it did run on 1.55V thou
Asrock.... rock!:hmm:
Waiting for reviews
Also, 19W TDP is overlapping with beema, is it not?
I guess those Laptops are not meant for summer usageTemperature
Operating 5°C to 35°C
Based on the info on the article, would anyone case to estimate how this would match up against an Intel Haswell U4200?
I'm thinking both with regards to max performance and battery life.
Also, 19W TDP is overlapping with beema, is it not?
I presume you're referring to i5 4200U. Performance wise they should trade blows in single threaded tasks, Kaveri should pull ahead on multithreaded tasks if turbo can be maintained. Battery life should go to the Intel platform.Based on the info on the article, would anyone case to estimate how this would match up against an Intel Haswell U4200?
I'm thinking both with regards to max performance and battery life.
30% faster in single threaded tasks. 15% faster in multithreaded if Kaveri can only hit its base clocks but it might be a wash if it can go higher than that.
Based on the info on the article, would anyone case to estimate how this would match up against an Intel Haswell U4200?
I'm thinking both with regards to max performance and battery life.
So are those percentages in Kaveri's or Haswell's favor? I.e. is the mobile Kaveri or Haswell the fastest?
And regardless, I'd say mobile Kaveri will be close enough to compete performance-wise with the mobile Haswell CPUs. I think that's a huge step for AMD in that case.
Beema looks like it would be a much better choice for 10-20W.
Due to what reasons? Battery life, price, ...? Because as I understand it, Beema will quite a lot slower than mobile Kaveri.
Mobile Kaveri doesn't have enough extra performance to really make the difference for any workloads.
If that is true, and mobile Kaveri in turn is close to mobile Haswell in performance, then it sounds like Beema will be a very good chip for laptops. I.e. you get performance and battery life that is close enough to Haswell, but much cheaper.
Turbo speeds in MT loads will indeed make or brake this chip.Looking at clocks, the 7300 has no chance matching MT performance. At 19W TDP this chip is going to run base clock on the CPU under 4C load-- very aggressive turbo.
I presume you're referring to i5 4200U. Performance wise they should trade blows in single threaded tasks, Kaveri should pull ahead on multithreaded tasks if turbo can be maintained. Battery life should go to the Intel platform.
The turbo clocks are extremely meaningful. For example, in the case of the i5 4200U, the chip is able to maintain 2.3Ghz CPU turbo speed when loaded with Prime 95, and will guarantee base clocks when loaded with Prime 95 & Furmark, essentially a power virus.I'm sure either company could make a mobile chip with a 4ghz+ turbo. It's quite another matter if it will stay at, or even reach those clocks. Bring the GPU into the picture and what CPU clocks will we get?
Not bashing, just pointing out that max turbo clocks are nearly meaningless in a TDP and battery limited environment.
Well, we'll have to see what happens then. We'll be measuring performance based on what the both CPUs and GPUs have to offer.Bring the GPU into the picture and what CPU clocks will we get?
Mobile Kaveri doesn't have enough extra performance to really make the difference for any workloads. They have similar IPC, so Beema will be close in all but the single threaded stuff. The graphics are also limited by TDP and memory performance at these power levels.
This took a while, I wonder if AMD would put kaveri with 512sp igpu into the 19-25W range, that could make a very intriguing and gaming capable 'ultrabook'
This took a while, I wonder if AMD would put kaveri with 512sp igpu into the 19-25W range, that could make a very intriguing and gaming capable 'ultrabook'
The turbo clocks are extremely meaningful. For example, in the case of the i5 4200U, the chip is able to maintain 2.3Ghz CPU turbo speed when loaded with Prime 95, and will guarantee base clocks when loaded with Prime 95 & Furmark, essentially a power virus.
The way it works on long term loads is the chip will mantain the highest clocks possible as long as power usage does not exceed TDP rating. Temperature plays a role too, but only if the cooling assembly is not dissipating enough heat to keep up with the rated TDP.
Some higher clocked Haswell ULT models might not be able to maintain their full turbo clocks under this kind of extreme stress (clocks go higher, TDP is still 15W), but I believe this example is enough to show turbo clocks are important.
Well, we'll have to see what happens then. We'll be measuring performance based on what the both CPUs and GPUs have to offer.
If your definition of "a lot of the time" is running a power virus, then yes.Hmm... A lot of the time ULV Haswell cannot maintain clocks under extreme load.