MoBo has a faulty pin?

generalhaan

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Hey Tech Gurus,

I have a question for you. I am gonna post a picture of my mobo CPU socket pic. Just take a look and tell me if you can judge that the pin is bent or not.
CPU socket Image { https://pix.sfly.com/jjE3b7 } Image

Also tell me if damage pin increases CPU temp.?

full story...

I bought Asus RX 480 4GB a GC week ago and was benchmarking it. I was using speccy from piriform to monitor the temp of my cpu, mobo, and GC.

I saw my CPU was touching 94 Cel. hence I turned it off. Next time I opened the CPU cooler and found out that it was not tightly screwed and some part of the cooling gel was blackish in color(after effects I think). so I cleaned the dust applied the paste and tightly screwed the cooler on top of the CPU. But again when I started the computer I went straight to the bios and AGAIN saw the temp spike from 60-70-85....than I turned it off again.

I think the CPU cooler is not fitting perfectly. CPU cooler is intel stock product.

I live in Delhi and I don't have an AC in my room and its summers (go figure).
 

Gray1

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I'm not the best one to answer here but nobody else has. It has been my expierence that when the CPU has ran real hot it was because the heatsink was not seated properly against the CPU. I would make sure the heatsink is not hitting the top of a capacitor when screwing it down. And that is another thing. You did not mention what motherboard you have but a stock Intel heatsink usually has 4 plastic pins that fit into holes. Then the top of the pins push down and lock it into the motherboard. Also I would bypass the temp reading programs. Boot into bios and just watch the temp reading. See if indeed you are getting that hot

Reguards
 
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pcgeek11

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With the CPU getting up to 201 degrees F and the cooler being not properly held down you may have damaged the CPU.
 

generalhaan

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I'm not the best one to answer here but nobody else has. It has been my expierence that when the CPU has ran real hot it was because the heatsink was not seated properly against the CPU. I would make sure the heatsink is not hitting the top of a capacitor when screwing it down. And that is another thing. You did not mention what motherboard you have but a stock Intel heatsink usually has 4 plastic pins that fit into holes. Then the top of the pins push down and lock it into the motherboard. Also I would bypass the temp reading programs. Boot into bios and just watch the temp reading. See if indeed you are getting that hot

Reguards
Bingo..., On sunday i opened my rig and cleaned it up (everything). But when i tried to put it back the cooler was feeling somewhat loose. so i changed the pin leg locks with the new 1. Now it is running at 50-60 C
 

Mantrid-Drone

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That's still pretty hot for a desktop unless those are the sort of temperatures you're seeing at high loads.

Even with the ambient temperature at 35C under light loads and the appropriate fan temperature threshold settings if those are the figures you're getting it looks like you could do with better cooling ie. additional case fans.

Speccy is a good little program but to keep an eye on the temperature at all times I've found free RealTemp 3.70 useful. You can find it easily.

One of the good things about it is that when you minimise it still displays the CPU core temperatures unobtrusively in the system tray. I've compared it to Speccy and, as you would hope, it gives identical figures.
 

generalhaan

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http://www.buildcomputers.net/cpu-temperature.html

What is normal CPU temperature?
Intel CPU Temps - Sandy Bridge

Idle Temp Normal Temp
Core i3-2100 30 to 37°C 50 to 62°C
Core i5-2500K 35 to 41°C 55 to 65°C
Core i7-2600K 32 to 40°C 47 to 60°C

That's still pretty hot for a desktop unless those are the sort of temperatures you're seeing at high loads.

Even with the ambient temperature at 35C under light loads and the appropriate fan temperature threshold settings if those are the figures you're getting it looks like you could do with better cooling ie. additional case fans.

Speccy is a good little program but to keep an eye on the temperature at all times I've found free RealTemp 3.70 useful. You can find it easily.

One of the good things about it is that when you minimise it still displays the CPU core temperatures unobtrusively in the system tray. I've compared it to Speccy and, as you would hope, it gives identical figures.
 

Mantrid-Drone

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The answer is the temperature should be as low as possible.

The problem is that if you just Google idle and normal CPU use temperatures you'll find loads of tables detailing individual CPUs. The majority are somewhere between 30C - 40C when idling and 50C - 60C for normal use. Anything giving you figures consistently above 65C is generally taken as an indication there is either inadequate cooling or something is wrong.

As far as I can see most of those tables of individual CPU typical temperature ranges are just rough indications of what you should expect when using the stock cooler in 'average' ambient temperatures.

As a benchmark figure for comparison they're useful because you'd expect that Intel or AMD have done extensive testing and wouldn't have supplied a CPU cooler that doesn't do at least an adequate job.

The CPU will be OK at those temperatures but do you want just adequate? The hotter it gets the shorter its expected lifespan, it is that simple.

The recommendation I adopted is that irrespective of CPU type/OC or not the 'ideal' is that your idle temperature should be <35C, normal <50C and 60C an absolute maximum. You add fans or other cooling systems and set BIOS threshold temperatures or control fan speeds manually to match that 'ideal' whatever the ambient temperature.

If your CPU cooler and any other fans are going full blast, something you probably don't want anyway, just to keep the temperature <60C in your particular conditions then, as said, I'd definitely be looking to improve the cooling system.

http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/how-to/desktop-pc/what-is-ideal-cpu-temperature-image-3498564/
 

generalhaan

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The answer is the temperature should be as low as possible.

The problem is that if you just Google idle and normal CPU use temperatures you'll find loads of tables detailing individual CPUs. The majority are somewhere between 30C - 40C when idling and 50C - 60C for normal use. Anything giving you figures consistently above 65C is generally taken as an indication there is either inadequate cooling or something is wrong.

As far as I can see most of those tables of individual CPU typical temperature ranges are just rough indications of what you should expect when using the stock cooler in 'average' ambient temperatures.

As a benchmark figure for comparison they're useful because you'd expect that Intel or AMD have done extensive testing and wouldn't have supplied a CPU cooler that doesn't do at least an adequate job.

The CPU will be OK at those temperatures but do you want just adequate? The hotter it gets the shorter its expected lifespan, it is that simple.

The recommendation I adopted is that irrespective of CPU type/OC or not the 'ideal' is that your idle temperature should be <35C, normal <50C and 60C an absolute maximum. You add fans or other cooling systems and set BIOS threshold temperatures or control fan speeds manually to match that 'ideal' whatever the ambient temperature.

If your CPU cooler and any other fans are going full blast, something you probably don't want anyway, just to keep the temperature <60C in your particular conditions then, as said, I'd definitely be looking to improve the cooling system.

http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/how-to/desktop-pc/what-is-ideal-cpu-temperature-image-3498564/
Sir ji, I dont have that much knowledge about cpu and their temp but i am using 2500k since mid/late 2011. and since than i never saw my CPU getting as low as 30-35C. for me ideal temp was 40 and 55-60 when playing games. May i ask where are you from and wots the ideal temp in ur region.

And wot should be the ideal temp of my Cpu(on idle), if my room temp is 39-40C(believe me). and i dont have an air conditioner. plus heat from my rig + PS4 (this is in the summer)
https://www.worldweatheronline.com/new-delhi-weather-averages/delhi/in.aspx

Thanks for the reasoning i will try to monitor the temp of my CPU. Gonna try Speed fan(if it is still available).
 
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Mantrid-Drone

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I'm in the UK and we get a very wide temperature range here over the year. In winter the room where I use my desktop can be under 10C without any heating but in the summer I've had temperatures as high as 34C well into late evening.

Those sort of high temperatures rarely last more than a few days though and are no comparison to the sort of consistent high temperatures you have to deal with.

But that is the important point: you're getting those high temperatures consistently during the summer and for much the rest of the year (average +30C from March to October). That means the 55C - 60C range you quoted will be typical not just occasional.

That's not going to kill the CPU or other components in the short term but it will reduce their life. That's all I'm saying but it is why, as the article I linked to and others, suggest temperatures are best kept below 50C. If that is impossible for you due to the high ambient temperatures even with the cooler and case fans going full speed then there is not a lot you can do.

Introducing new case fans or water cooling may not be practical so the shortened life expectancy of some of your components maybe the price you have to pay for living in New Delhi.

You could of course move to the UK.
 

generalhaan

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Not after Brexit...lol (Just kidding).....Thanks for the advice. and ill going to monitor the temp in winter also to see if CPU temp decreases.
 

Mantrid-Drone

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After Brexit the opportunities for our Commonwealth friends with the right skill sets are still going to be very good and probably even improved. They'll be just as welcome here as they always have been. There are plenty of new Indian families in my part of London and now we even have a local branch of the National Bank Of India.

Opportunities will abound post Brexit and I can guarantee, at the very least, far lower summer temperatures than New Delhi.
 
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sirweebleson

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Though it sounds like your temperature issue has been addressed, it's still worth mentioning the damaged pin. Pin in question is a DDR3 grounding pin, likely to have no impact at all, but if it were I'd expect it to show instability while overclocking RAM or running certain XMP profiles.
 
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