[modcrash.com] Nvidia 320.18 WHQL Display Driver is Damaging GPUs

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AnandThenMan

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that is not odd at all considering the vast majority of users have no issues.
Nvidia needs to step up their troubleshooting game if it takes end users sending Nvidia hardware to try and fix driver issues. I suppose I should not be surprised given the Vista debacle, that is a great example of woefully inadequate testing on the part of Nvidia.
 

sushiwarrior

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Why does Nvidia need people to send them their hardware? You'd think NV would have more than a sufficient supply of cards/resources in house. I find this very strange.

Nvidia probably has some cards, but it takes more than "some cards" to replicate issues happening to, lets say 500 people out of 100,000 for example. It takes tons of systems and tons of time to replicate issues.
 

The Alias

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tried em on my athlon x2 64 4400+ and gt 610 system and I got artifacts rolling back NOW
 

AnandThenMan

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Nvidia probably has some cards, but it takes more than "some cards" to replicate issues happening to, lets say 500 people out of 100,000 for example. It takes tons of systems and tons of time to replicate issues.

Possible. But having done my share of troubleshooting, there are only so many hardware combinations. Well there are nearly infinite combinations, but in a practicality sense most gaming boxes are similar enough. Meaning, the systems that are having issues are not that difficult to replicate. And remember, Nvidia is requesting only the video card not the entire computer.
 

sushiwarrior

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Possible. But having done my share of troubleshooting, there are only so many hardware combinations. Well there are nearly infinite combinations, but in a practicality sense most gaming boxes are similar enough. Meaning, the systems that are having issues are not that difficult to replicate. And remember, Nvidia is requesting only the video card not the entire computer.

It's not a matter of "if config = this, then die", it's a matter of what software was installed when the drivers were updated, if the card was overclocked, settings which were changed, other drivers that interacted somehow, etc. etc. there's limitless software configurations, any number of which could cause this, as well as limitless hardware states (eg. overclocked, low binned part, minor failed parts etc.).
 

AnandThenMan

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It's not a matter of "if config = this, then die", it's a matter of what software was installed when the drivers were updated, if the card was overclocked, settings which were changed, other drivers that interacted somehow, etc. etc. there's limitless software configurations, any number of which could cause this, as well as limitless hardware states (eg. overclocked, low binned part, minor failed parts etc.).
How is Nvidia going to replicate all of that just by people sending them the video card?
 

Vesku

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How is Nvidia going to replicate all of that just by people sending them the video card?

Requesting cards means they are going to be investigating if it's particular board designs, capacitors and other chips, that are the culprit and if so why that is (age? component model or batch?).
 

AnandThenMan

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Requesting cards means they are going to be investigating if it's particular board designs, capacitors and other chips, that are the culprit and if so why that is (age? component model or batch?).
So a driver amplifies an already failing cards issues due to degraded components? Does that mean there is a limited lifespan on Nvidia cards, meaning you can only update to a certain driver rev, after that sorry your capacitors are too old.
 

Vesku

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So a driver amplifies an already failing cards issues due to degraded components? Does that mean there is a limited lifespan on Nvidia cards, meaning you can only update to a certain driver rev, after that sorry your capacitors are too old.

Anything we come up with is pure speculation. Given the reports of artifacts and such even in newer cards the driver may either by design or bug be running an area of the card closer to the specification limits and some cards just can't handle that for whatever reasons be that age, quality of components, or quirks in individual card designs.
 

Lepton87

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Why does Nvidia need people to send them their hardware? You'd think NV would have more than a sufficient supply of cards/resources in house. I find this very strange.

So some "fans" at various forums write negative stuff about AMD hardware, all of that for some scraps of hardware which may cost 1000$ a year. If we counted how much they really earn for an hour it would be some pathetic figure in 1st world countries, but at least they do what they like. Personally they don't persuade me to buy NV hardware at all, to me they have an effect not unlike that of some twisted kind of surreptitious advertising.
 

wand3r3r

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No, it doesn't. I mean that is true, neither company is immune, but what this thread really shows is that people will truly believe what they want to believe. And this showing up the same day across multiple forums just shows the AMD Advocacy team just finished a group meeting, high five'd each other and took the internetz by storm.

/thread

Yes, Keysplayr thinks a LARGE part of this is the Advocacy team from AMD. Why wouldn't you think so? Sorry 3DV. It just seems a bit coordinated to me.
Don't see it if you don't want to, that is totally expected. :sneaky:

Frame metering took time. This took one day across many forum. What's tough about it?

Is this how the focus group works? Meet up and take the internet by storm? :sneaky:

Better fire up the synchronization, an imaginary phantom group has beaten you guys with it's "quick" coordination.
 

Keysplayr

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Is this how the focus group works? Meet up and take the internet by storm? :sneaky:

Better fire up the synchronization, an imaginary phantom group has beaten you guys with it's "quick" coordination.

No. This is how AMD's Advocacy group works. Stealth. Anonymity. Secret. Hidden. Spread fear and loathing of competitors products.

Not what focus group does. Not even in the same universe.

If you started a thread asking how many members here signed up to join the AMD advocacy group, you'll get many people here saying they did.
If you posed a second question in that thread asking how many were actually accepted into the AMD Advocacy group, you'd get nobody. Crickets.
They NEED their anonymity. Can change screen names and Proxied IP addresses all they need to. Unlimited.
 
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rob426

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Just received my 770, (not installed yet)

The only drivers available for this card is 320.18, is there any way to get older drivers to work, or should I wait till this driver problem gets sorted ?
 

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No. This is how AMD's Advocacy group works. Stealth. Anonymity. Secret. Hidden. Spread fear and loathing of competitors products.

Not what focus group does. Not even in the same universe.

If you started a thread asking how many members here signed up to join the AMD advocacy group, you'll get many people here saying they did.
If you posed a second question in that thread asking how many were actually accepted into the AMD Advocacy group, you'd get nobody. Crickets.
They NEED their anonymity. Can change screen names and Proxied IP addresses all they need to. Unlimited.

With respect lets try and stay on topic(that goes for the other members as well ) ....I'll say I'm a bit surprised Nvidia did not pull the drivers from their site,its quite clear plenty of users do have issues with these drivers and I'm not talking about cards dying either,even other forums over the net have reported similar issues to what others and I have.

I would of thought it would be a wise and safe move to pull the drivers for now.

I can report that my PC is still very stable with my previous drivers( 314.22s )since I removed these crappy 320.18s from my PC ,both in and out of gaming.
 
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Keysplayr

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With respect lets try and stay on topic(that goes for the other members as well ) ....I'll say I'm a bit surprised Nvidia did not pull the drivers from their site,its quite clear plenty of users do have issues with these drivers and I'm not talking about cards dying either,even other forums over the net have reported similar issues to what others and I have.

I would of thought it would be a wise and safe move to pull the drivers for now.

I would absolutely love to do that, but as you can see, that's not going to be possible. It's unfortunate.
 

wand3r3r

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^ Interesting considering you brought up the scheme that this is only propaganda devised by an imaginary team.
 

3DVagabond

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No. This is how AMD's Advocacy group works. Stealth. Anonymity. Secret. Hidden. Spread fear and loathing of competitors products.

Not what focus group does. Not even in the same universe.

If you started a thread asking how many members here signed up to join the AMD advocacy group, you'll get many people here saying they did.
If you posed a second question in that thread asking how many were actually accepted into the AMD Advocacy group, you'd get nobody. Crickets.
They NEED their anonymity. Can change screen names and Proxied IP addresses all they need to. Unlimited.

That's what this whole NSA thing is about. They'll catch these scoundrels.
 

Keysplayr

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^ Interesting considering you brought up the scheme that this is only propaganda devised by an imaginary team.

Umm. no. The actual inference began with toyota's post #14. Alluding to a coordinated effort across multiple forums. Not saying to blame him, but that is probably what set things off.
 

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I would absolutely love to do that, but as you can see, that's not going to be possible. It's unfortunate.

Just ignore them,I'm surprised by these drivers since I have been using Nvidia since TNT days and these are the worst drivers I have ever installed,however as I stated very happy with 314.22s .

Somebody has reported their 670GTX card died over at OCuK with 320.18s (B grade card since JAN),may or may not be related http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18519399 ,regardless I do feel there are definite issues wth these drivers.

I do hope Nvidia take it serious because they do have plenty of users out there with expensive hardware and last thing you want to do is alienate them.

 
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stahlhart

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Just received my 770, (not installed yet)

The only drivers available for this card is 320.18, is there any way to get older drivers to work, or should I wait till this driver problem gets sorted ?

You can see if these 320.11 drivers work:

https://www.asus.com/Graphics_Cards/GTX7803GD5/#support_Download_36

Alternatively, if you feel adventurous, you could try modifying the .INF for the 314.22 drivers, substituting the GPU string for your card from the 320.18 drivers:

http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=377158

...although what's strange here is that I looked at my 320.18 drivers and don't see a GPU string for the 770 in nvdisp.inf, only the 780 and the Titan.
 

Tabby

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I actually had tomb raider act funny 2 days ago with my Titan and these drivers. I can around a corner in a building and every thing had weird pink, green and blue colors to it. Step out of the room and things were fine, back in and funny colors. After restarting the game everything was fine.


like this ?











Found this on youtube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0U-ADORCbc

GTX 780 Stock Under 70c only when loading a new level and not all the time.
"After restarting the game everything was fine"
 
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Creig

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No. This is how AMD's Advocacy group works. Stealth. Anonymity. Secret. Hidden. Spread fear and loathing of competitors products.

Not what focus group does. Not even in the same universe.

If you started a thread asking how many members here signed up to join the AMD advocacy group, you'll get many people here saying they did.
If you posed a second question in that thread asking how many were actually accepted into the AMD Advocacy group, you'd get nobody. Crickets.
They NEED their anonymity. Can change screen names and Proxied IP addresses all they need to. Unlimited.

Wasn't Nvidia was caught red handed hiring viral marketing company AEG in order to secretly seed shills on various website forums? Hasn't your fellow Focus Group member Rollo been permabanned by at least half a dozen forums for misconduct? Is it true he created multiple identities both here and on other websites to secretly continue posting after his main account had been shut down? Hasn't Nvidia still kept him as a member of their Focus Group despite all his misbehaviors?

Maybe you should remember that saying about glass houses and rocks and all that.
 

SlowSpyder

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No. This is how AMD's Advocacy group works. Stealth. Anonymity. Secret. Hidden. Spread fear and loathing of competitors products.

Not what focus group does. Not even in the same universe
.

If you started a thread asking how many members here signed up to join the AMD advocacy group, you'll get many people here saying they did.
If you posed a second question in that thread asking how many were actually accepted into the AMD Advocacy group, you'd get nobody. Crickets.
They NEED their anonymity. Can change screen names and Proxied IP addresses all they need to. Unlimited.


I agree, stealth marketing by compensated posters is underhanded and a dirty tactic. Its really unfortunate that a technology company would stoop to that level; hiring cloaked posters to possibly steer people looking for help into a solution that may not be really in that poster's best interest. And spreading fud about a competitor instead of letting your products speak for themselves, another dirty tactic.



Speaking of... I clicked the link in your sig and looked at your forum a bit. How's Rollo doing?
 
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