Modded GTO2 and RMA.

[SketchMaster]

Yes, I know. I want to RMA something I broke. It's wrong, stealing, cheap and I'm going to hell for it.

Now with that out of the way.

I have a GTO2 that I fryed and now I need to get it fixed. I was able to flash it back to stock but will they see that it was messed with? It's well known for being a modder's card so I would think they would check or something.

Anyone know for sure?

 

[fbrdphreak]

FYI you're asking to be flamed here

Hope you brought marshmallows

 

[imhungry]

I don't think that they'll be able to tell by the bios. I know people who did this same thing with the 6800 AGP, and got away with it. As long as there is no hard mod.

 

[Powermoloch]

I don't see the logic these days w/ you people. You knew the risks of modding, you knew the risks of changing the card in someway voiding the warranty. AND YOU KNEW IT. Good luck kiddo :thumbsdown:

 

[secretanchitman]

Originally posted by: imhungry
I don't think that they'll be able to tell by the bios. I know people who did this same thing with the 6800 AGP, and got away with it. As long as there is no hard mod.

:thumbsup:

 

[AkumaX]

*puts up a chair*

:beer: anyone?

 

[moonboy403]

that's why you should always get evga...sadly they're not selling ati cards =P
evga's the best vendor ever!
their lifetime warranty lets you oc your card and change to aftermarket cooling as well
as long as the card isn't physically damaged and you put the stock cooler back on when you rma it
they'll accept it

 

[hans007]

if there is no physical damage they wouldnt know. even if you left the original bios on there, i doubt they'd even care they'd probably just replace it anyway.

i have worked at a computer repair center for a major oem, it is not worth the time to actually look into everything you did if it is not blatantly obvious.

 

[Elfear]

Nice job helping him out gents. Jeez, let's encourage people to lie and cheat so that we can pay higher prices on stuff. Even more important than that, does integrity mean nothing now days?

OP- Live with the broken card or pony up the cash for a new one. That's how it goes when you mod and overclock stuff.

 

[shinzwei]

anandtech = HELP so help the guy.

 

[Sunrise089]

Originally posted by: shinzwei
anandtech = HELP so help the guy.

Would it still count as 'helping' if I told him to make smarter choices like not trying to defraud a company? Or are we supposed to 'help' alcoholics by pointing out the nearest liquor store (and I know RMA'ing a card and being an alcoholic are not the same).

 

[imported_Oderus]

You guys are harsh.

There is nothing morally wrong with overclocking a card. If you break the card due to overclocking and want to see if you can replace it, that's ok by me too... however... if they were to ask you if you overclocked and you said no, then you would be in the wrong. If they have a don't ask don't tell policy like Futureshop's 14 day return policy, then I don't see a problem.

 

[Elfear]

Originally posted by: Oderus
You guys are harsh.

There is nothing morally wrong with overclocking a card. If you break the card due to overclocking and want to see if you can replace it, that's ok by me too... however... if they were to ask you if you overclocked and you said no, then you would be in the wrong. If they have a don't ask don't tell policy like Futureshop's 14 day return policy, then I don't see a problem.

That would be a lie of omission. Come on, do you think it's ok as long as they don't flat out ask you? If your future spouse neglected to tell you that she had AIDS because you never asked would you be ok with it? I know that's an extreme example but it's the same concept. You mess up your card and void the warranty, you reap the consequences. Don't foist the burden on the manufacturer when you obviously ran it out of spec.

 

[zagood]

Well, here's the thing.

If it fried because of overclocking, then bite the bullet. You knew the risks, you took them, and now you pay.

If, on the other hand, something else happened like the stock fan stopped working or a known defect like a capacitor went wrong, I believe you should still be able to RMA.

Second is usually doubtful, but still there should be some exceptions.

That being said, I wonder if they'll take back my 9000pro that I modded to 525/1150...seems to have a little problem with heat

(kidding. that would be one hell of an OC)

-z

 

[Matthias99]

Originally posted by: Oderus
You guys are harsh.

There is nothing morally wrong with overclocking a card. If you break the card due to overclocking and want to see if you can replace it, that's ok by me too... however... if they were to ask you if you overclocked and you said no, then you would be in the wrong.

Lying by omission is still lying. You're sending the product in for RMA knowing full well that you damaged it in a way that is not covered by the warranty. Can you get away with it? Yeah, probably. Does that somehow make it "ok"? IMO, no. People tend to rationalize it as a 'victimless crime' (they're a big company, and one card is just a drop in the bucket), but this sort of thing drives up costs over time, and may impact future pricing and warranties from the company.

If they have a don't ask don't tell policy like Futureshop's 14 day return policy, then I don't see a problem.

If they have a 'no questions asked replace it for any reason whatsoever' policy, then go ahead. But I'd bet that if you read the fine print on that return policy, there is language in there about it not covering intentional damage or damage due to modification.

 

[shinzwei]

lol. one day you **honest** people, this will happen to you. Its ok like if it happens to you once and you RMA work and you learn your lesson and never void your warrenty again but dang guys, this is a community help one and another its not hard. $H!T happens ya know? like if he spend 250 on the gto2 modded it into a x850xtpe and boom burns thats 250 bucks. People in anandtech are always try to get more out of there money. and i understand that, who wants to buy a x850xt when u can get a gto-->x850xt and greater.

 

[phr0m]

lol. one day you **honest** people, this will happen to you. Its ok like if it happens to you once and you RMA work and you learn your lesson and never void your warrenty again but dang guys, this is a community help one and another its not hard. $H!T happens ya know? like if he spend 250 on the gto2 modded it into a x850xtpe and boom burns thats 250 bucks. People in anandtech are always try to get more out of there money. and i understand that, who wants to buy a x850xt when u can get a gto-->x850xt and greater.

thats the right idea, but if you fried your card due to spilling water on it (like me, water cooling leak) then i wouldnt rma, but if the card just one day crapped out and there were no volt mods done to it....... i would seriously consider it

 

[otispunkmeyer]

you'd of done better not to tell anyone on here about this and just RMA'd it. chances are they wont know. possibly just go meh its broke and ship out a replacement

 

[NoStateofMind]

Originally posted by: AkumaX
*puts up a chair*

:beer: anyone?

Over here please!!

Originally posted by: Elfear
Nice job helping him out gents. Jeez, let's encourage people to lie and cheat so that we can pay higher prices on stuff. Even more important than that, does integrity mean nothing now days?

OP- Live with the broken card or pony up the cash for a new one. That's how it goes when you mod and overclock stuff.

We pay higher prices regardless, they (NVIDIA & ATI) have been upping the price each and every generation. You would be right, if the sole reason for the price guaging was because of frivalice RMA's, but I don't think so. As a point of reference the Inquirer said something about pricing. Like the frog analogy. Pretty much true. AND YES I KNOW THEY ARE NOT ALWAYS RIGHT!

shoosh

 

[Hacp]

If it is fried by the Ocing, then its ok. But I agree that if something else happened like the card's ramsinks fell off or the card's vga/dvi outputs started to not work, then its fine to RMA. I personally don't oc anything but my cpu and I can live with a dead 2800+ Newcastle.

 

[rbV5]

Originally posted by: shinzwei
lol. one day you **honest** people, this will happen to you. Its ok like if it happens to you once and you RMA work and you learn your lesson and never void your warrenty again but dang guys, this is a community help one and another its not hard. $H!T happens ya know? like if he spend 250 on the gto2 modded it into a x850xtpe and boom burns thats 250 bucks. People in anandtech are always try to get more out of there money. and i understand that, who wants to buy a x850xt when u can get a gto-->x850xt and greater.

Most honest folks have a rule "you break it, you buy it" There is a risk an enthusiast takes when modding and overclocking, and the risk is the cost of the product. An honest modder accepts the risk and deals with the consequences of their actions, even if its somewhat painful.

 

[Elfear]

Originally posted by: rbV5

Most honest folks have a rule "you break it, you buy it" There is a risk an enthusiast takes when modding and overclocking, and the risk is the cost of the product. An honest modder accepts the risk and deals with the consequences of their actions, even if its somewhat painful.

:thumbsup:

 

[Sunrise089]

Originally posted by: Elfear

Originally posted by: rbV5

Most honest folks have a rule "you break it, you buy it" There is a risk an enthusiast takes when modding and overclocking, and the risk is the cost of the product. An honest modder accepts the risk and deals with the consequences of their actions, even if its somewhat painful.

:thumbsup:

:thumbsup:

 

[shinzwei]

Most honest folks have a rule "you break it, you buy it" There is a risk an enthusiast takes when modding and overclocking, and the risk is the cost of the product. An honest modder accepts the risk and deals with the consequences of their actions, even if its somewhat painful.

This is why those people stay home and never go out, becuase they have no life! sometimes if they break something its mostly mitakes and would you pay 500$ for something you broke accidently? like a small 4 inch crytal ball? would you? so if your walking in a mall...and accidently bumped into a table and broke a crytal ball...and noone saw, your telling me your gonna go up to a clerk and say..im sorry i broke this and i wanna pay for it? or would you just walk away like nothing happened.

 

[Leper Messiah]

God I wuv evga for this reason.

No OP, they won't be able to tell, but is your conscience going to be okay?