Model S Plaid sets an official full lap time of 7:35.579 at Nürburgring

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Somewhat impressive but also kinda not as others have pointed out. Also, oof the yoke looks absolutely horrible for real driving. He was fighting that thing constantly even on straightaways. I actually looked up other Nurburgring attempts with other cars, and yup, the drivers didn't have to fight the steering nearly as much, and didn't matter if it was a track car or say the Taycan.

Which honestly, I'm curious how much of it is trying to make a car that was never designed at any point for track use, to try to be fast around a track, how much is the physical yoke, and how much is the steering calibration. Not sure if someone, like Lotus, that has decades of expertise on setting cars up for handling, could get more. I'm kinda mixed, on the one hand, I'm glad Tesla abandoned the idea of all the track mods (wheels/tires, rivted on spoiler, think it also had a front splitter, etc), as it would certainly help at the track but would have really hurt its day to day electric car capabilities (reducing range). But, I'd be curious how much that would change its time.

Which, the yoke idea could be remedied fairly easily in a couple of ways. One would be a foldable steering wheel, where the top and bottom circular pieces fold flat against the steering column in some modes, but then say in a race mode or other where the full wheel (along with it adjusting the steering tuning) would work better, it could pop up. That would be a nice visual cue to help differentiate the steering calibration for instance. Or adding knobs (kinda like the ones that truckers add to their steering wheels) to each side (like at the upper points of the yoke aligned to the center of the wheel) that would give you something to hold while turning the steering aggressively. That would even enable you to ditch the lower part of the yoke as well. Heck, even just one of those on the lower middle section, which could double as a big tactile horn button would likely make parking easier.

I have mixed feelings on Tesla's approach. Yes, it's awesome to have PS5 level hardware, but at some point it will become outdated. Tesla will may offer an upgrade, but then you are paying thousands for console level hardware. Also creates a lot of e-waste for something that has limited use. Meaning, we need FSD level 5 to be a reality, the driver wanting to game or actual passengers in the car. All things that will eventually happen, I just have doubts it will be in the near future. It's an exercise in the possible and I hope to be proven wrong.

I think the gaming aspect is actually somewhat smart, but not for FSD, but rather to kill time while charging.

Especially when coupled with sitting in the car and being able to have the steering wheel function for control, I also think it could be really interesting for other uses. Think driver's ed where before you ever actually drive, you have it running a simulated course with the car showing the scenario, and then the steering is showing you how to steer for that situation. Then it lets you act out the scenario, evaluating you and then providing feedback.
 

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what are you talking about, lol? that Tesla time shows either: it's really terrible at track work because Plaid is way way quicker than those other cars, or just look at how fricking fast it is to still get close to those other actual track cars, despite it's inability to do any real track work.

I don't know why you're butthurt about reality.
Projection, he's done the same thing in various other Tesla-related threads.
 

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what are you talking about, lol? that Tesla time shows either: it's really terrible at track work because Plaid is way way quicker than those other cars, or just look at how fricking fast it is to still get close to those other actual track cars, despite it's inability to do any real track work.

I wouldn't say that time indicates terrible at track work, mainly it's showing different power delivery characteristics. An EV has max torque form ZERO MPH, but torque drops off at higher speeds.

Telsa is much faster 0-60, but the Nürburgring is a fairly fast track, and the lap is timed with a flying start, so it's greatest strength, a super quick 0-60 is irrelevant here.

60-100 (MPH) is MUCH more important, and it gets more competitive in that range, and Tesla is probably slower 100-150, and of course has lower top speed than most.

On the Longest straight, the Telsa seemed to reach terminal Velocity at about 268 KM/h. I watched the RS3 (slower overall by almost 5 seconds), and it hit 289 KM/h on that straight.
 
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