Modern Warfare 2 angers Christians

PlasmaBomb

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Call for ban

The influential Christian group the Maine Christian Civic League has called for Modern Warfare 2 to be banned. The outfit said the game was too violent and "any decent citizen" ought to ban it.

"There is a well-established cause and effect relationship between video games and school shootings, and parents of some of the victims have sued video game makers. Mercifully, our own state has been spared the occurrence of any school shootings, but the danger is growing with each passing day," the group wrote on its blog. "The ready availability of drugs, violent video games, and outrageous rock music is a witch's brew which will eventually lead to tragedy."

The outfit claims that the best course is to have a large fire and decent citizens should burn copies of the game in public. After all it is what Jesus would have wanted. The groups statement was given pride of place by Fox News, which suggested that there's "nothing to stop that kid from playing it and becoming a terrorist ... on a video game."

Well established cause and effect my ass.
 

Rezident

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I'm a Christian and the only time the game angers me is when it won't connect to a server. My Nat is strict, apparently, whatever that means.

I've also been playing these type of games for decades and I haven't shot anybody! Yet. And despite the rampant growth of gaming here I am not aware of there ever being a school shooting in my country, ever. Hmmm, I wonder if there is some other facter - other than video gaming - that facilitates school shootings . . .
 

RedArmy

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I honestly thought that was a tongue-in-cheek article. There are so many things wrong with that group that no amount of words could cover it all.
 

StrangerGuy

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"People turning into salt! God kills the firstborn! Samson's massacres 1000 guys with a jawbone!"

Oh wait, that's not violence. Sorry.
 

DefDC

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Unless I'm mistaken, I think all the school shooters were Christians.

I think I just well-established a "fact"!
 

Qbah

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This reminds me of the crazy Dante's Inferno "demonstration" before E3 I think it was? That was just a clever advertisement by EA - hopefully this is something similar, otherwise I'm lost for words. There are no studies showing the increased violence connection to gaming so they're flat out lying in public. If anything, the huge intolerance attached to most religions is what could be the culprit of any violent behavior...
 

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Without sputtering out another knee jerking reaction, their group affiliation has no weight to their cause. A lot of people both religiously devout and agnostic believe the game is offensive. Of course a group of Christians, of all people, will try to fight for traditional values and morality.
 

mwmorph

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Because the article was poorly written, didn't cite sources and turned into a joke at the end, I thought it was fake until I found this.

Direct from the society themselves:
http://mainefamilypolicycouncil.com/artman/publish/Opinion_5/Ban_this_Game.shtml
Ban this Video Game
By Staff of the Christian Civic League of Maine
Dec 10, 2009 - 12:40:42 PM

Christmas marks the birth of Our Savior, the Prince of Peace, and it is heartening to know that non-believers, and even those of other faiths, think of Christmas as a time of peace. It is doubly unfortunate that at this time of year, one of the best-selling products is a video game which calls on young people to participate vicariously in the destruction of their fellow man.

Early on in its history, the League was one of many Christian organizations which opposed prize-fighting. Representatives of the League bravely went to local law enforcement authorities and demanded that boxing matches be shut down, and their organizers arrested. At the time, prize-fighting was illegal in Maine.

We live in a different age, a time in which the public has been dangerously desensitized to violence. Instead of the normal emotions of remorse and pity called forth when someone commits an act of violence, many find a thrill in participating in violent video games.

But even in our own desensitized age, there are limits. Many members of the public are appalled at a new video game called "Modern Warfare 2." The script for the game was written by the same screenwriter who writes the popular television series "NCIS." In the game, the player becomes a member of a terrorist gang which guns down helpless men, women, and children waiting at an airport. This scene in the game is called the "Massacre Level." The game has already been banned overseas, or modified to remove the offending scene, but unfortunately, the change has not been made where it is most needed, the United States.

There is a well-established cause and effect relationship between video games and school shootings, and parents of some of the victims have sued video game makers. Mercifully, our own state has been spared the occurrence of any school shootings, but the danger is growing with each passing day. The ready availability of drugs, violent video games, and outrageous rock music is a witch's brew which will eventually lead to tragedy here in Maine.

All decent people should denounce the video game "Modern Warfare 2;" and join in opposing the sale and use of such games. Moreover, it may be time for Maine to begin a debate over the advisability of banning these games completely, giving due consideration to both the First Amendment, and the danger these violent games pose to the public.

As an aside, whoever wrote that fudzilla post needs to learn how to write, even in blog format.
 

pontifex

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hmm...i've played these types of video games for years and i own several firearms, but i've never killed anyone, even attempted to, or even thought about it.
 

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Zargon

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hmm...i've played these types of video games for years and i own several firearms, but i've never killed anyone, even attempted to, or even thought about it.
you lost me at thought about it

but until then, I was +1
 

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Actually attitudinal studies have consistently shown that there is a correlation between consumption of violent media and increased propensity towards violence and aggression. You cannot jump to conclusion and say this is a cause and effect relationship, but this data would still be valid evidence for any argument against violent video games.

A more pressing problem is why do we desire to consume violence to begin with?, what does this say about human nature?
 
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videogames101

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Actually attitudinal studies have consistently shown that there is a correlation between consumption of violent media and increased propensity towards violence and aggression. You cannot jump to conclusion and say this is a cause and effect relationship, but this data would still be valid evidence for any argument against violent video games.

A more pressing problem is why do we desire to consume violence to begin with?, what does this say about human nature?

Not very much, but what is does say it says more about our culture. My counter-example is Japan, where violence in video games is much less widespread, almost taboo, but sex in video games is considered quite normal. For us, sex in video games is a line we haven't completely crossed yet, it's almost taboo, and violence is not. Our culture's values differ, it says nothing about human nature.
 

ixelion

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I will have to disagree with your Japan example. Culture can suppress animal instincts in humans, just because there is less violent video games in Japan doesn't mean that violence is not desired, only that is it culturally and psychologically suppressed.

I also recall a large amount of rape material in Japanese pornography, which evinces the desire for violence and aggression - but I don't know why Japanese culture does not suppress this material.

I guess the attack on video games alone is not fair, advocacy groups should look at all forms of media.
 
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MikeyLSU

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So Jesus would rather people waste $60 to buy and burn a video game rather than giving $60 to someone in need? Someone needs to revisit Christianity.
 

brandonb

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Why is this thread here? This has nothing to do with video games. This is just another anti christian circle jerk.

Mod please delete!!!
 

gorcorps

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Why is this thread here? This has nothing to do with video games. This is just another anti christian circle jerk.

Mod please delete!!!

Focused around a video game. Since there's no 'make fun of the religious folk' thread the next best place was here.
 

gorcorps

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Actually attitudinal studies have consistently shown that there is a correlation between consumption of violent media and increased propensity towards violence and aggression. You cannot jump to conclusion and say this is a cause and effect relationship, but this data would still be valid evidence for any argument against violent video games.

A more pressing problem is why do we desire to consume violence to begin with?, what does this say about human nature?

By that logic we can also say there's an argument between drinking and church, as my textbook I was just going through has those correlated. It's a very obvious trend with liquor stores increasing almost linearly with churches. Does that mean all chruch goers are also drinkers? Maybe, but it's more likely that there's another cause here, and that they aren't connected at all. That's how I feel about this video game violence BS. Correlation DOES NOT indicate causastion, and it seems most people don't get it.
 
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