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[jemcam]

Originally posted by: ausm

Originally posted by: Evadman
ya, there is this big loop hole that sais if you disagree with the gov, you do not have to pay taxes.

Red Foxx and John Travolta could attest to that

Ausm

Don't forget Willie Nelson!

 

[coolVariable]

i like this guy!!!
At least one person who doesn't let the fvkcing government push him around!!!

I would agree to a flat 10% tax rate but not the tax mess we have now!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: ElFenix
its not a loophole, hes evading taxes. just because the gov't doesn't collect on all-cash businesses doesn't mean that you don't have to pay taxes on it. they got al capone on tax evasion, and he was all cash.

Actually there is a growing number of Americans who believe INCOME TAX (and income tax ONLY) is ILLEGAL.

They do NOT file ANY tax report except a "declaration" to the IRS that the income-tax is illegal. So far, the IRS has not cracked down (but there are rumors of "prison camps" for these evaders eventually). Capone's mistake was that he filed taxes but LIED on the report about his income.

 

[jemcam]

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: ElFenix
its not a loophole, hes evading taxes. just because the gov't doesn't collect on all-cash businesses doesn't mean that you don't have to pay taxes on it. they got al capone on tax evasion, and he was all cash.

Actually there is a growing number of Americans who believe INCOME TAX (and income tax ONLY) is ILLEGAL.

They do NOT file ANY tax report except a "declaration" to the IRS that the income-tax is illegal. So far, the IRS has not cracked down (but there are rumors of "prison camps" for these evaders eventually). Capone's mistake was that he filed taxes but LIED on the report about his income.

"Growing number of Americans who believe INCOME TAX is ILLEGAL."

Yeah, like the ones that hung around Timothy McVeigh!

 

[Grasshopper27]

Originally posted by: apoppin
They do NOT file ANY tax report except a "declaration" to the IRS that the income-tax is illegal. So far, the IRS has not cracked down (but there are rumors of "prison camps" for these evaders eventually). Capone's mistake was that he filed taxes but LIED on the report about his income.

LOL!

That's SO not true...

If you earn taxable income in the United States, you're required to pay tax on it. If you don't, you can be fined or put into prison.

Hopper

 

[Cuda1447]

Originally posted by: coolVariable
i like this guy!!!
At least one person who doesn't let the fvkcing government push him around!!!

I would agree to a flat 10% tax rate but not the tax mess we have now!!!!!!!!!!!

Woot! Atleast someone agree's with me.

 

[kranky]

Oh, they most certainly do crack down on these people.

In the most recent case in my area (news story here), the guy was convicted and will be sentenced in a couple weeks, probably getting three years in jail.

 

[Zebo]

Hey all it would take is a 100,000 of us or so to stop paying Poppin, and the rest would follow.

 

[DWray]

Failing to file a return is illegal, filing a false return is illegal, and not paying owed taxes is illegal. The loophole involves the legal definition of "income". I guess the law is rather vague on this definition. So, you adopt a definition of income other than wages, salary, tips, capital gains, dividends, and put a big, fat zero under income, claim zero deductions and sign the form. Since you've filed a return, it contains no fraudulant deductions or other information "to the best of your knowledge and ability" and you owe no taxes, you've broken no laws.

It is now up to the government to prove you had "income". Considering the government at the very highest levels has trouble with definitions of words like "is" & "alone", it's not difficult to conceive there is room for interpretation on terms such as "income".

I think most people that get rounded up by the IRS are those that do not file at all (like Capone), file fake deductions (like claiming pets as dependants, or exhorbitant donations to charity), or those that do not pay taxes they themselves have certified as owed (they have a legal document on which you claimed you owed the IRS money).

Just be prepared to have a very good lawyer on retainer when the IRS calls. Personally, it's not a fight I'm ready to take up on my own behalf.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Grasshopper27

Originally posted by: apoppin
They do NOT file ANY tax report except a "declaration" to the IRS that the income-tax is illegal. So far, the IRS has not cracked down (but there are rumors of "prison camps" for these evaders eventually). Capone's mistake was that he filed taxes but LIED on the report about his income.

LOL!

That's SO not true...

If you earn taxable income in the United States, you're required to pay tax on it. If you don't, you can be fined or put into prison.

Hopper

You are so UNaware of the income-tax "rebellion".

 

[OutHouse]

How does he not pay property taxes???

Turn his ass in, its your civic duty.

 

[DWray]

Originally posted by: kranky
Oh, they most certainly do crack down on these people.

In the most recent case in my area (news story here), the guy was convicted and will be sentenced in a couple weeks, probably getting three years in jail.

From the article:

But he said he had come to the good-faith conclusion that he didn't have to pay, or even file a return, after exhaustive research.

Not filing anything = jail

But when he wanted to move out of Penn Hills and needed loans, he relied on his Social Security number in providing false Form 1040s to banks that indicated he had paid his taxes.

Falsifying tax records = jail

 

[BillGates]

We're all paying for the roads he drives on, the garbage men who pick up his trash, and the people who do whatever they do to poo at the sewage place to his poo.... That sucks.

 

[apoppin]

First of all, Here is the IRS Code Citations Requiring Payment of Income Tax

And this is the article DISMISSING the "rebellion"
I didn't say I agreed with not paying taxes - ONLY that it is a POPULAR and GROWING movement.

 

[LeStEr]

Irks me that he can get away with it as well but theres not much you can do.

 

[Tripleshot]

>>>>>"I don't want to be the b!tchy whistleblower because it's not my place, "<<<<<<

If it's not yours, then whose is it? Ours? You should notify the IRS or FBI now. What he is doing is illegal as hell, and he needs to pay up. His aragance is diplorable. Turn the jackoff deadbeat in.

 

[jemcam]

Originally posted by: Tripleshot
>>>>>"I don't want to be the b!tchy whistleblower because it's not my place, "<<<<<<

If it's not yours, then whose is it? Ours? You should notify the IRS or FBI now. What he is doing is illegal as hell, and he needs to pay up. His aragance is diplorable. Turn the jackoff deadbeat in.

 

[BooGiMaN]

Originally posted by: BillGates
We're all paying for the roads he drives on, the garbage men who pick up his trash, and the people who do whatever they do to poo at the sewage place to his poo.... That sucks.

exactly ....if they refuse to pay taxes dont use ANY service taxes are used to pay for...

 

[NightTime003]

obvious troll...

 

[DWray]

Originally posted by: apoppin
First of all, Here is the IRS Code Citations Requiring Payment of Income Tax

And this is the article DISMISSING the "rebellion"
I didn't say I agreed with not paying taxes - ONLY that it is a POPULAR and GROWING movement.

The first one is actually pretty funny when you read it. In a nutshell, the definition of income is income from all sources of income.

 

[bolido2000]

If your friend is involved with some shady people/business be prepared to get your ass taxed when you turn him in and he finds out it was you.

 

[CurtCold]

Days of our Lives?

"Like sands through the hour glass...."

 

[mpitts]

I hope your friend has fun in "Federal Pound-you-in-the-ass prison" when he finally gets caught, because he will.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: NightTime003
obvious troll...

Agreed.
btw, as a current mortgage loan officer and former underwriter who has looked at literally thousands and thousands of tax returns, I can attest that there is a legal way to get out of paying income taxes. It's called being self-employed (along with extremely creative). Business expenses and re-investments become legitimate write-offs. Balancing profit with costs, re-investment, and depreciation equals zero net income which equals zero taxes owed.
Hey, don't knock it offhand. First, these guys pay for it in interest rates, let me tell ya. Second, small business is what really keeps the American economy moving, so the government provides enough loopholes to stimulate people into taking the risks in order to acheive the rewards.

While that may not be the actual case here, I also don't have a lot of trust in Dezign's intelligence in these matters so I will reserve judgement.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: mpitts
I hope your friend has fun in "Federal Pound-you-in-the-ass prison" when he finally gets caught, because he will.

Doubtful. More likely is the "Federal Country-Club-(Pound "real taxpayer's"-in-the-@ss) - prison"