Mom Accused In Rape Of Son's 12-Year-Old Friend

Jaskalas

Lifer
Jun 23, 2004
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Throw her in prison and throw away the key.

This is demonstrably worse than virtually all the teacher scandals.
 

blake0812

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A Bureau of Justice Statistics report shows 1.6 % (sixteen out of one thousand) of children between the ages of 12-17 were victims of rape/sexual assault. That's unacceptable.

Is that just reported cases?
 

CZroe

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Throw her in prison and throw away the key.

This is demonstrably worse than virtually all the teacher scandals.

Is it? They professed their love to each other and it seems that they are saying it was "forced" purely because it was statutory.
 

Zor Prime

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Over the span of 9 months and it was forced?

She must have walked over to his house and dragged him out by his arm.

Ain't saying it's right but come on, forced, BS.

I'd bank on his folks catching on and getting pissed off, or the kid let slip some words that got around.
 

Jaskalas

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Is it? They professed their love to each other and it seems that they are saying it was "forced" purely because it was statutory.

That's an interesting point - I had missed that line, probably cause I stopped when I saw forced. Which I think is much more likely the younger the... child. I think I must say child because he's not yet a teen, which is generally where I'd draw an arbitrary line on the severity of this.

A society that condemns 17 year olds is definately not living in a generation that'd tolerate this story. Regardless of what the boy wanted.
 

PokerGuy

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Over the span of 9 months and it was forced?

She must have walked over to his house and dragged him out by his arm.

Ain't saying it's right but come on, forced, BS.

A child can not consent to such things, so by definition, it is forced. Period.
 

drebo

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A child can not consent to such things, so by definition, it is forced. Period.

How so?

12 is more than old enough to testify in court. Therefore, one must conclude that the courts believe a 12 year old is capable of knowing right from wrong and how not to lie.

How, then, can those same courts say that 12 is too young to consent to anything? If there's no coercion involved, how can there be any wrongdoing? Assuming no coercion, it'd be rather difficult for a woman to "force" oral sex and vaginal penetration.
 

Jaskalas

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Assuming no coercion, it'd be rather difficult for a woman to "force" oral sex and vaginal penetration.

Repeat visits over time, perhaps, but it's not difficult to force that. Especially on a 12 year old, who is in no way going to have the size, strength, or mental capacity of an adult.
 

soundforbjt

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Now if the situation was reversed and it was a 12 yr old girl and a 30 yr old man, would some of the posters opinions change?
 

werepossum

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That's an interesting point - I had missed that line, probably cause I stopped when I saw forced. Which I think is much more likely the younger the... child. I think I must say child because he's not yet a teen, which is generally where I'd draw an arbitrary line on the severity of this.

A society that condemns 17 year olds is definately not living in a generation that'd tolerate this story. Regardless of what the boy wanted.
Yeah, I can't really minimize it when it's a 12 year old. Plus there's a severe age difference, so even if it's true love, when he's thirty her head is going to be the size of a VW Beetle. Judging from Halik's pic anyway. She's got more head from the outside of her eye than most women from the inside of their eyes. This is Stewie in drag.

I mean, jeez, that's a melon.
 

moonbogg

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Pretty good story. The hotter they are, the more acceptable. This has an acceptance rating of 7 out of 10. The girl is not a 7 out of 10, but sex at age 12 is a gift, so taking that into account, the rating approval stands.
 

Zor Prime

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A child can not consent to such things, so by definition, it is forced. Period.

Forced due to age alone. If it was genuinely forced outside the confine of law then there would have been an abduction case filed over the span of NINE months, man.

I was getting action when I was 12. Granted, people my age. Nobody forced anything.
 

bozack

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two things

1. what the hell was this woman thinking, she is 30 and the kid is 12 yikes
2. absolutely if this was a 30 year old man and a 12 yr old girl the attitudes in here would be much different, can't see why when this happens to a boy it is acceptable or "his" fault by some

Regardless of what this kid said at 12 the fact of the matter is he was a kid and she was a 30 year old woman and it was rape, here is to hoping she gets some serious jail time.
 

mcveigh

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Now if the situation was reversed and it was a 12 yr old girl and a 30 yr old man, would some of the posters opinions change?

THIS. Everyone would want to burn him it the stake if it was reversed. But since a guy was the victim it's "okay"
 

Jaskalas

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two things

1. what the hell was this woman thinking, she is 30 and the kid is 12 yikes

1: She's most likely a pedo who gets excited by the idea.
2: She's dumb enough to think children are emotionally stable and good at keeping secrets. Or that no one will ever look into unusual activity...

2. absolutely if this was a 30 year old man and a 12 yr old girl the attitudes in here would be much different, can't see why when this happens to a boy it is acceptable or "his" fault by some

In cases of statutory, we need to recognize seduction and if force was actually used. I consider it materially different if he was forced into it, if it was his idea, or if he was simply lured into it. The victim's testimony is actually quite important in that regard.

I find that distinction relevant for sentencing, or even for defining the crimes committed.
 
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