Monday Night Football

[child of wonder]

Packers have a really nice QB in Rodgers. Hats off to him for playing a great game.

 

[shortylickens]

Seeing as how I dont know any better I have to ask a really dumb question:
How difficult is it to have an undefeated regular season?

 

[Analog]

Originally posted by: shortylickens
Seeing as how I dont know any better I have to ask a really dumb question:
How difficult is it to have an undefeated regular season?

Ask Tom Brady

 

[shortylickens]

Originally posted by: Analog

Originally posted by: shortylickens
Seeing as how I dont know any better I have to ask a really dumb question:
How difficult is it to have an undefeated regular season?

Ask Tom Brady

I checked the forums and there is no Tom Brady here.
Is that a football player? Is he good?

 

[Homerboy]

Originally posted by: chuckywang
Packers would be 4-0 if they had a decent offensive line. Aaron Rodgers has been sacked 20 times this season.

20!!!!

No doubt. Everyone is worried about Favre making it 16+ games. There's no way Rodgers (or even Favre in his prime) would make it 16+ playing behind that O line. Seriously needs some help.

 

[tboo]

Originally posted by: chuckywang
Packers would be 4-0 if they had a decent offensive line. Aaron Rodgers has been sacked 20 times this season.

20!!!!

Gee, too bad your line sucks.

 

[rasczak]

what a game. as for rodgers making it throught he season, i wouldn't be surprised if he got hurt before the 40th sack. that O line is swiss cheese. however, being the favre fan that i am, i feel happy for the guy. don't get me wrong, if he could have made up his mind just a bit sooner after each season he would have been retiring as a packer, but c'est la vie. no? i feel the pack have something special in rodgers, (he was def. the best qb in his draft) learned a lot under favre's tutelage, and it was kinda cool hearing favre give rodgers a nod for his performance during the post game interview.

 

[Fingolfin269]

Favre is the man. Anyone who thinks the Vikings win that game without Favre is crazy.

 

[meltdown75]

Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
Favre is the man. Anyone who thinks the Vikings win that game without Favre is crazy.

he played awesome..

 

[Homerboy]

Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
Favre is the man. Anyone who thinks the Vikings win that game without Favre is crazy.

Many QBs could have won that game. It wasn't "Favre Magic" that won it.

 

[meltdown75]

lol Homerboy

credit where credit is due. kthxbye

 

[tboo]

Originally posted by: Homerboy

Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
Favre is the man. Anyone who thinks the Vikings win that game without Favre is crazy.

Many QBs could have won that game. It wasn't "Favre Magic" that won it.

LOL, your grapes are sour

 

[Homerboy]

Originally posted by: tboo

Originally posted by: Homerboy

Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
Favre is the man. Anyone who thinks the Vikings win that game without Favre is crazy.

Many QBs could have won that game. It wasn't "Favre Magic" that won it.

LOL, your grapes are sour

No, no they are not.
Honestly what was SOOOOOOOOOOOOO magical about that game that Favre did? If anything it was a magical defensive line by the Vikings. I don't recall Favre lining up at the DT spot.

 

[Queasy]

Originally posted by: Homerboy

Originally posted by: chuckywang
Packers would be 4-0 if they had a decent offensive line. Aaron Rodgers has been sacked 20 times this season.

20!!!!

No doubt. Everyone is worried about Favre making it 16+ games. There's no way Rodgers (or even Favre in his prime) would make it 16+ playing behind that O line. Seriously needs some help.

The Packer O-Line wasn't great for sure but there were a couple of times where Rodgers simply held on to the ball too long to try and make a play that wasn't there. Like the play that ended the first drive because he fumbled when he got sacked. The second half shuffle of the offensive line because of injury certainly didn't help.

Have to give a big tip of the hat to Favre though. He's still got it. Whether or not he can keep it up throughout the season or his arm starts to fall of like it did in the last half of the season last year remains to be seen though. The positive for him with the Vikings though is that he's got a better offensive line and a better running game than he did with the Jets.

 

[Homerboy]

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: Homerboy

Originally posted by: chuckywang
Packers would be 4-0 if they had a decent offensive line. Aaron Rodgers has been sacked 20 times this season.

20!!!!

No doubt. Everyone is worried about Favre making it 16+ games. There's no way Rodgers (or even Favre in his prime) would make it 16+ playing behind that O line. Seriously needs some help.

The Packer O-Line wasn't great for sure but there were a couple of times where Rodgers simply held on to the ball too long to try and make a play that wasn't there. Like the play that ended the first drive because he fumbled when he got sacked. The second half shuffle of the offensive line because of injury certainly didn't help.

Have to give a big tip of the hat to Favre though. He's still got it. Whether or not he can keep it up throughout the season though or his arm starts to fall of like it did in the last half of the season last year remains to be seen though. The positive for him with the Vikings though is that he's got a better offensive line and a better running game than he did with the Jets.

No doubt about Rodgers. I don't think I've ever screamed "JUST THROW IT AWAY!~!!!!" more times during a game.

I never understood people questioning whether or not Favre still had "it" or not... sure he's super old (in NFL terms) and he faded at the end of last season, but even 75% of Favre is better than 75% of starting QBs I'd say. I think any team would have been happy to sign him this off season. Hell even the Packers never really wanted to see him go.

 

[rasczak]

Originally posted by: Homerboy

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: Homerboy

Originally posted by: chuckywang
Packers would be 4-0 if they had a decent offensive line. Aaron Rodgers has been sacked 20 times this season.

20!!!!

No doubt. Everyone is worried about Favre making it 16+ games. There's no way Rodgers (or even Favre in his prime) would make it 16+ playing behind that O line. Seriously needs some help.

The Packer O-Line wasn't great for sure but there were a couple of times where Rodgers simply held on to the ball too long to try and make a play that wasn't there. Like the play that ended the first drive because he fumbled when he got sacked. The second half shuffle of the offensive line because of injury certainly didn't help.

Have to give a big tip of the hat to Favre though. He's still got it. Whether or not he can keep it up throughout the season though or his arm starts to fall of like it did in the last half of the season last year remains to be seen though. The positive for him with the Vikings though is that he's got a better offensive line and a better running game than he did with the Jets.

No doubt about Rodgers. I don't think I've ever screamed "JUST THROW IT AWAY!~!!!!" more times during a game.

I never understood people questioning whether or not Favre still had "it" or not... sure he's super old (in NFL terms) and he faded at the end of last season, but even 75% of Favre is better than 75% of starting QBs I'd say. I think any team would have been happy to sign him this off season. Hell even the Packers never really wanted to see him go.

See, this is what gets me. If they wanted him to go, then why did they make him rush his retirement decisions? This makes no sense to me. You've got a superstar quarterback plus an excellent backup/quarterback of the future, I honestly think the Pack mishandle this and now you reap what you sow. I for one would rather have seen Brett play his entire career in GB (just like most folks i imagine) why not let him ride a couple more years and save his body from OTA's (training camp is a different story, I think everyone should be participating). This is really what it was all about, Brett getting older, not really wanting to participate in OTA, but Mccarthy wanted him to and Thompson wanted Rodgers to start, so they pushed him out. GAH i'm done sorry for the thread crap/rant.

 

[Homerboy]

Originally posted by: rasczak

Originally posted by: Homerboy

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: Homerboy

Originally posted by: chuckywang
Packers would be 4-0 if they had a decent offensive line. Aaron Rodgers has been sacked 20 times this season.

20!!!!

No doubt. Everyone is worried about Favre making it 16+ games. There's no way Rodgers (or even Favre in his prime) would make it 16+ playing behind that O line. Seriously needs some help.

The Packer O-Line wasn't great for sure but there were a couple of times where Rodgers simply held on to the ball too long to try and make a play that wasn't there. Like the play that ended the first drive because he fumbled when he got sacked. The second half shuffle of the offensive line because of injury certainly didn't help.

Have to give a big tip of the hat to Favre though. He's still got it. Whether or not he can keep it up throughout the season though or his arm starts to fall of like it did in the last half of the season last year remains to be seen though. The positive for him with the Vikings though is that he's got a better offensive line and a better running game than he did with the Jets.

No doubt about Rodgers. I don't think I've ever screamed "JUST THROW IT AWAY!~!!!!" more times during a game.

I never understood people questioning whether or not Favre still had "it" or not... sure he's super old (in NFL terms) and he faded at the end of last season, but even 75% of Favre is better than 75% of starting QBs I'd say. I think any team would have been happy to sign him this off season. Hell even the Packers never really wanted to see him go.

See, this is what gets me. If they wanted him to go, then why did they make him rush his retirement decisions? This makes no sense to me. You've got a superstar quarterback plus an excellent backup/quarterback of the future, I honestly think the Pack mishandle this and now you reap what you sow. I for one would rather have seen Brett play his entire career in GB (just like most folks i imagine) why not let him ride a couple more years and save his body from OTA's (training camp is a different story, I think everyone should be participating). This is really what it was all about, Brett getting older, not really wanting to participate in OTA, but Mccarthy wanted him to and Thompson wanted Rodgers to start, so they pushed him out. GAH i'm done sorry for the thread crap/rant.

Rush his retirement? What? They did nothing of the sort.

 

[RyanPaulShaffer]

Originally posted by: rasczak

Originally posted by: Homerboy

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: Homerboy

Originally posted by: chuckywang
Packers would be 4-0 if they had a decent offensive line. Aaron Rodgers has been sacked 20 times this season.

20!!!!

No doubt. Everyone is worried about Favre making it 16+ games. There's no way Rodgers (or even Favre in his prime) would make it 16+ playing behind that O line. Seriously needs some help.

The Packer O-Line wasn't great for sure but there were a couple of times where Rodgers simply held on to the ball too long to try and make a play that wasn't there. Like the play that ended the first drive because he fumbled when he got sacked. The second half shuffle of the offensive line because of injury certainly didn't help.

Have to give a big tip of the hat to Favre though. He's still got it. Whether or not he can keep it up throughout the season though or his arm starts to fall of like it did in the last half of the season last year remains to be seen though. The positive for him with the Vikings though is that he's got a better offensive line and a better running game than he did with the Jets.

No doubt about Rodgers. I don't think I've ever screamed "JUST THROW IT AWAY!~!!!!" more times during a game.

I never understood people questioning whether or not Favre still had "it" or not... sure he's super old (in NFL terms) and he faded at the end of last season, but even 75% of Favre is better than 75% of starting QBs I'd say. I think any team would have been happy to sign him this off season. Hell even the Packers never really wanted to see him go.

See, this is what gets me. If they wanted him to go, then why did they make him rush his retirement decisions? This makes no sense to me. You've got a superstar quarterback plus an excellent backup/quarterback of the future, I honestly think the Pack mishandle this and now you reap what you sow. I for one would rather have seen Brett play his entire career in GB (just like most folks i imagine) why not let him ride a couple more years and save his body from OTA's (training camp is a different story, I think everyone should be participating). This is really what it was all about, Brett getting older, not really wanting to participate in OTA, but Mccarthy wanted him to and Thompson wanted Rodgers to start, so they pushed him out. GAH i'm done sorry for the thread crap/rant.

Except for the fact that even if Brett had stayed in GB and retired there, he still wouldn't have played his "entire career" in GB, since he was drafted and played for Atlanta in 1991.

 

[rasczak]

Originally posted by: RyanPaulShaffer

Originally posted by: rasczak

Originally posted by: Homerboy

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: Homerboy

Originally posted by: chuckywang
Packers would be 4-0 if they had a decent offensive line. Aaron Rodgers has been sacked 20 times this season.

20!!!!

No doubt. Everyone is worried about Favre making it 16+ games. There's no way Rodgers (or even Favre in his prime) would make it 16+ playing behind that O line. Seriously needs some help.

The Packer O-Line wasn't great for sure but there were a couple of times where Rodgers simply held on to the ball too long to try and make a play that wasn't there. Like the play that ended the first drive because he fumbled when he got sacked. The second half shuffle of the offensive line because of injury certainly didn't help.

Have to give a big tip of the hat to Favre though. He's still got it. Whether or not he can keep it up throughout the season though or his arm starts to fall of like it did in the last half of the season last year remains to be seen though. The positive for him with the Vikings though is that he's got a better offensive line and a better running game than he did with the Jets.

No doubt about Rodgers. I don't think I've ever screamed "JUST THROW IT AWAY!~!!!!" more times during a game.

I never understood people questioning whether or not Favre still had "it" or not... sure he's super old (in NFL terms) and he faded at the end of last season, but even 75% of Favre is better than 75% of starting QBs I'd say. I think any team would have been happy to sign him this off season. Hell even the Packers never really wanted to see him go.

See, this is what gets me. If they wanted him to go, then why did they make him rush his retirement decisions? This makes no sense to me. You've got a superstar quarterback plus an excellent backup/quarterback of the future, I honestly think the Pack mishandle this and now you reap what you sow. I for one would rather have seen Brett play his entire career in GB (just like most folks i imagine) why not let him ride a couple more years and save his body from OTA's (training camp is a different story, I think everyone should be participating). This is really what it was all about, Brett getting older, not really wanting to participate in OTA, but Mccarthy wanted him to and Thompson wanted Rodgers to start, so they pushed him out. GAH i'm done sorry for the thread crap/rant.

Except for the fact that even if Brett had stayed in GB and retired there, he still wouldn't have played his "entire career" in GB, since he was drafted and played for Atlanta in 1991.

ok ok my bust i forgot they drafted him, but you get the picture.

 

[RyanPaulShaffer]

Originally posted by: rasczak

Originally posted by: RyanPaulShaffer

Originally posted by: rasczak

Originally posted by: Homerboy

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: Homerboy

Originally posted by: chuckywang
Packers would be 4-0 if they had a decent offensive line. Aaron Rodgers has been sacked 20 times this season.

20!!!!

No doubt. Everyone is worried about Favre making it 16+ games. There's no way Rodgers (or even Favre in his prime) would make it 16+ playing behind that O line. Seriously needs some help.

The Packer O-Line wasn't great for sure but there were a couple of times where Rodgers simply held on to the ball too long to try and make a play that wasn't there. Like the play that ended the first drive because he fumbled when he got sacked. The second half shuffle of the offensive line because of injury certainly didn't help.

Have to give a big tip of the hat to Favre though. He's still got it. Whether or not he can keep it up throughout the season though or his arm starts to fall of like it did in the last half of the season last year remains to be seen though. The positive for him with the Vikings though is that he's got a better offensive line and a better running game than he did with the Jets.

No doubt about Rodgers. I don't think I've ever screamed "JUST THROW IT AWAY!~!!!!" more times during a game.

I never understood people questioning whether or not Favre still had "it" or not... sure he's super old (in NFL terms) and he faded at the end of last season, but even 75% of Favre is better than 75% of starting QBs I'd say. I think any team would have been happy to sign him this off season. Hell even the Packers never really wanted to see him go.

See, this is what gets me. If they wanted him to go, then why did they make him rush his retirement decisions? This makes no sense to me. You've got a superstar quarterback plus an excellent backup/quarterback of the future, I honestly think the Pack mishandle this and now you reap what you sow. I for one would rather have seen Brett play his entire career in GB (just like most folks i imagine) why not let him ride a couple more years and save his body from OTA's (training camp is a different story, I think everyone should be participating). This is really what it was all about, Brett getting older, not really wanting to participate in OTA, but Mccarthy wanted him to and Thompson wanted Rodgers to start, so they pushed him out. GAH i'm done sorry for the thread crap/rant.

Except for the fact that even if Brett had stayed in GB and retired there, he still wouldn't have played his "entire career" in GB, since he was drafted and played for Atlanta in 1991.

ok ok my bust i forgot they drafted him, but you get the picture.

Yes, I got your point.

But, this isn't a case like John Elway or Eli Manning where they were drafted by one team and immediately traded to another before even taking a snap. Favre actually played for the Falcons during the 1991 season.

 

[KeithTalent]

Damn, that was awesome. Allen was insane and Favre looked great, I just hope we do not see the same results as the Jets saw last year. The schedule does not look too bad, with only a few really dangerous games left, but we'll see if Favre can hold up.

KT

 

[Homerboy]

Originally posted by: rasczak

ok ok my bust i forgot they drafted him, but you get the picture.

I love all the old footage of Jerry Glanville calling him "Mississippi" and making him throw balls up into the upper deck on bets and such.

 

[Poulsonator]

Originally posted by: shortylickens
Seeing as how I dont know any better I have to ask a really dumb question:
How difficult is it to have an undefeated regular season?

It's extremely difficult. It's only happened once since the league went to 16 regular-season games (2007, by the New England Patriots). Before that, it only happened in 1972 by the Miami Dolphins, but they played only 14 regular-season games back then.

It also happened a couple times back in the 1940s:

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[Queasy]

Originally posted by: Homerboy

Originally posted by: rasczak

ok ok my bust i forgot they drafted him, but you get the picture.

I love all the old footage of Jerry Glanville calling him "Mississippi" and making him throw balls up into the upper deck on bets and such.

Heh. Favre spent more time in Buckhead bars than he did on the field or in film study during his time in Atlanta. He was highly unmotivated because he was behind Chris Miller and Billy Joe Tolliver.

 

[SnipeMasterJ13]

Originally posted by: Homerboy

Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
Favre is the man. Anyone who thinks the Vikings win that game without Favre is crazy.

Many QBs could have won that game. It wasn't "Favre Magic" that won it.

I'm a Vikings fan and I agree with this. It wasn't magic. It was a solid performance without any turnovers.

I'll even go as far as to say that if we didn't have a magical performance by Jared Allen, GB would have most likely won. (aka Pack o-line wasn't terrible) Rodgers threw for almost 400 yards WHILE getting sacked 7-8? times, 1 fumble, and 1 int. He sure had our "15 yard buffer zone" defense figured out.

I'll give Favre his due, though, because he's obviously the missing link our offense needed to outweigh the 15-yard buffer zone defense. But for the record, I'd still be happier with Cutler!