[Monitor] Got Dell S2440L Thinking That it's an IPS Display

[nyck]

Well, I built a new PC just two days ago and I asked for Dell 22'' 2240L as it's an IPS display but, the guy said we don't have that in stock, rather you can purchase Dell 24'' 2440L which is the same monitor but with a bigger screen, I said okay.

Later when I had the computer setup at home, I realized that there is backlight leakage on the left and little on the top. The image doesn't look that sharp, if I try to change the display modes, the white gets pale or the display gets a bit too sharpened.


Leakage:

I was little shocked and pinged a friend to check if I have a faulty monitor or what, he said first of, I am mistaken that it's an IPS display and to my horror ya it's not

I got so sad, I was in the shop and had no idea that this specific model comes with a VA Panel unlike the rest of the monitors by Dell in the S series

I have had a word with the computer dealer and he said, he understands that there had been a mistake and to pack the thing up, he will see what could be done maybe he would change it to some other model to some different company.

tl;dr?

So, what I want to know is which monitor should I switch to, and if the display of the IPS Monitor would be that much different compared to this one, honestly? I had a laptop before for couple of years and I really have no idea what to expect from an IPS display, I have heard and read it's just better and yeah. Would you guys suggest what to do, thank you.

 

[nyck]

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[ShintaiDK]

So far I can tell its IPS.

Do you use the VGA or HDMI to connect the monitor? And 1920*1080 resolution?

 

[nyck]

Connected via VGA and yeah 1080 resolution.

It is VA panel that is for sure.

 

[ShintaiDK]

Try replace the VGA with a HDMI. Analog cables, with higher resolution, specially unshielded tend to show bad picture due to interference.

 

[KompuKare]

This review says VA:

http://www.prad.de/new/monitore/test/2012/test-dell-s2440l.html#Einleitung
(or translated http://translate.google.co.uk/trans.../new/monitore/test/2012/test-dell-s2440l.html)
and here's another review:
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/dell_s2440l.htm

Obviously while this Dell is not IPS, VA panels are (or were) meant to be slightly better for text. The point I'm trying to make is that while it may not be IPS, VA panels are good although the colours are better on IPS. Viewing angles at 178° is pretty much the same and both are vastly superior to TN.

BTY, my monitor (NEC 2170NX) is P-SVA and I'm happy with it although it's getting a bit old - which mainly means it uses ~70W for a 21" while this 24" uses under 18W.

 

[Anarchist420]

It should be noted that IPS panels can vary wildly from each other. Some are even RGB6 and others don't even have the full 178 degrees viewing angles (e-IPS aren't RGB8 and/or they don't have the full viewing angle).

 

[knev]

CPU which brand you own? then you can go with same brand of Monitor.
Dell is good in its hardware and customer support, should get replacement for your faulty arrival monitor.
Other option will be to look for Lenovo.

 

[nyck]

I am thinking to stay with this model and to get this monitor replaced because of the back light bleeding.

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[blackened23]

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and here's another review:
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/dell_s2440l.htm

Obviously while this Dell is not IPS, VA panels are (or were) meant to be slightly better for text. The point I'm trying to make is that while it may not be IPS, VA panels are good although the colours are better on IPS. Viewing angles at 178° is pretty much the same and both are vastly superior to TN.

BTY, my monitor (NEC 2170NX) is P-SVA and I'm happy with it although it's getting a bit old - which mainly means it uses ~70W for a 21" while this 24" uses under 18W.

This isn't correct. There is an absolute clear disparity in viewing angles when viewed side by side with an IPS panel:

VA viewing angles are nearly as bad as TN, the main advantage VA has over TN is better black levels. In that respect it is excellent. It also has decent response time yet is still limited to 60 hz, and has good contrast. HOWEVER, the colors are nowhere near as good as IPS, as well as maximum brightness is some 20-30 times worse than IPS. But the black levels are very nice on VA.

So to summarize: VA panels exist because they have good black levels, are cheap, and have decent response time. The last doesn't matter because the tech is limited to 60hz. It's basically another cheap 1080p or sub 1080p panel that exists for people who want to be.....cheap. My view is that the pure gamer will likely want a 120hz 3d vision 3 lightboost screen, while everyone else should get IPS. VA isn't very good except with regards to black level.

 

[blackened23]

I am thinking to stay with this model and to get this monitor replaced because of the back light bleeding.

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Dude, you're being OCD. That is fine. That being said, I don't like VA panels and would opt for an IPS. But that isn't bleed, that is normal and isn't noticeable unless you run monitor tests. That isn't how you use a monitor in practice, you will never notice such things in real world use.

 

[nyck]

I wish I was being OCD, but In real world use I am able to see the difference and it's annoying.

I sent some pictures to Dell and they are the one who told me to get it exchanged, no joke.

 

[KompuKare]

@blackened23

Ok having actually read the viewing angle parts of those two reviews, I stand corrected.
But it seems there's a fair bit of difference in VA panels too since I found the review prad.de did of my NEC
http://www.prad.de/en/monitore/review-nec-multisync-lcd2170nx-bk-part8.html#Image
and the colours weren't that washed out at angles as this Dell.

 

[Majcric]

I'm glad this was pointed out as not being an IPS, because unless I'm looking at it wrong Amazon has it listed as an IPS monitor. Confusing to buyers.

 

[nyck]

I happen to be one of those buyers

 

[Timmmmaaahh]

What's up with people and their fixation on IPS displays these days? I don't see any difference. I purchased Dell's 24" S2440L knowing it's VA and I love it! It's stylish, got a great viewing angle, superb quality, awesome brightness/contrast, it's really comfortable to read on it and it was a friggin' steal. Sure, IPS technology must be 'better' to justify the higher price point, but what's wrong with the S2440L really? Does a benchmark that points out there is a slight blur visible when filming it with a high speed camera really make a difference to the human eye? We're so focused on getting imagery technology that's far superior to what our eyes are capable of (600Mhz, anyone?) while it's nothing more but a bunch of fancy high numbers (4k? c'mon!). How I hate marketing >_<

You are right that you should get a replacement when you say the image "doesn't look that sharp", it should be crystal clear. If you didn't get one already or if you still haven't (got the chance to have) decided yet, stick with the same screen. You won't regret it. Plus, it's BIGGER

 

[nyck]

If you don't see the difference that's good for you, you are content.

I could see the difference and I got it changed, I absolutely loved the look of it, the design of it, but the display.

The darks were amazing on it, but rest? That wasn't enough for me.

Thank you for your reply.

 

[ArchAngel777]

For whats it is worth, my S2440L does not have that issue. I am pretty picky. My biggest complaint was trying to dial in the color (mainly because I was used to my other monitor that over saturated things) - Anyhow, the S2440L is awesome, at least mine is.

 

[Puffnstuff]

With dell you have to shop the ultrasharp line to insure you get ips panels.

 

[nyck]

Experience has been awful with Dell Ultrasharps and we are talking about the Premium products right now, this is my friend who purchased a Dell U2711 which turned out to be defective and got Ultrasharp U3011 as a replacement which turned out to be defective too. Dealing with them has been so much of a task that he is just living with it.

Link Saga to get Dell UltraSharp U2711 Dispay Problem Fixed