Monitor question 144 hz

[davel]

So my asus 25 inch VE258Q 1080p 60 hz monitor is on its way out, I got a few dead pixels just show up, and I can't get rid of them. I have had the monitor for a little over 3 years now, was hoping it last longer but so be it, I did want to pick up ASUS ROG SWIFT, but I just don't have the money at the moment, since I just picked up a 980 ti. I was planning on buying this monitor in a few months probably around sept or so.

So I was thinking of getting a much cheaper gap stop monitor and eventually can be my secondary monitor when I do get something similar to ROG.

I was thinking of just getting this:
ASUS VG248QE
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236313

or maybe going to 1440p 144hz, if I can find something decent price

The real question is, is it silly to get 144hz without g-sync? I understand it makes a huge difference, though I have zero clue since never seen any of these in action.

if I get a 1080p 144hz, in theory with my 980 ti for now I can hit really high FPS so maybe I won't need gsync as much right now and later on will be cheaper?

 

[bystander36]

If it is just a stop gap monitor to get you by for a few months, why spend money on features like G-sync? I'm not even sure I'd want to spend money on 144hz if it is just to get you by for 3 months.

 

[Squeetard]

Yah. Also, strobing backlit is more important to me than refresh rates. My VG278HE rocks.

 

[davel]

If it is just a stop gap monitor to get you by for a few months, why spend money on features like G-sync? I'm not even sure I'd want to spend money on 144hz if it is just to get you by for 3 months.

well no I won't get gsync now, but eventually do want to get it.

144 hz seemed cheap enough especially for 1080p

One thing I don't understand is if it is 144hz without g-sync, does that mean you have to have 144 FPS at all times? If you say come in at 80-100 FPS what happens? Do you get tearing ? lag?

 

[bystander36]

Do you have to have 60 FPS now?

I use a 120hz monitor, and one of the nice things is that I don't have to use V-sync at all for my tastes. With 144hz, tearing is far less noticeable at that refresh rate. V-sync causes lag, not using it doesn't.

 

[davel]

Do you have to have 60 FPS now?

I use a 120hz monitor, and one of the nice things is that I don't have to use V-sync at all for my tastes. With 144hz, tearing is far less noticeable at that refresh rate. V-sync causes lag, not using it doesn't.

so basically with 144hz i always leave v-sync off, and even if I am getting 80-100 FPS for example I won't see any screen tearing and will be smoother overall?

 

[bystander36]

Basically, but you may notice some mild tearing, depending on the person. If I look for it, I can see some tearing, but most people won't notice the tearing unless you search for it.

 

[moonbogg]

I had a 1080p 120hz monitor and I never noticed any tearing. I now use a 1440p 144hz Gsync monitor, and I guess its smoother, but I'm only saying that because I think its supposed to be smoother. 120hz with high FPS is king and the most important thing for smoothness in game. If you get anywhere near or especially below 60fps, Gsync won't save you in most games I've tried. It will still look like a stuttering mess because the background stutters as you pan around. There just aren't enough frames to fill in the space as you quickly pan around. Gsync can't fix that. Gsync is nice and adds a seamless kind of subtle clarity to the game, but it won't matter if you have low FPS, low being 60 or below.

 

[davel]

Thanks for info, wish I can see them live in a store it would be so much easier to make a decision.

I am trying to figure out do I go 1080p with 144hz (asus for $260), and be able to get high FPS with ultra settings, or do I find a 1440p monitor with 144z, but not be able to max it out in every game, and potentially in 1-2 years get maybe much lower FPS as higher end games come out? Then what happens if I am not getting 60fps+ @ 1440p?

I am kind of torn.

 

[bystander36]

If you are not using V-sync, the tearing issue is the same regardless of what your FPS are. You'll get tearing, but due to the 144hz, it is hard to see and many people will not know it is tearing, while others will see it but only when searching for it. That doesn't change when your FPS start to go lower. Well, actually it should reduce the tearing, as you only get 1 tear per frame. If you have fewer frames, you have fewer tears.

If you want 144hz and 1440p, get it. The lack of G-sync may suck, but it's not nearly as bad as when you are at 60hz.