Monkey's Uncle! MacBooks get Core iX CPUs.

Bateluer

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Also, AMD graphics.

http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/24/apple-refreshes-macbook-pro-family-with-sandy-bridge-processors/

* 13-inch MacBook Pro - Last time around the 13-inchers didn't exactly get a lot of love (they were stuck with older Core 2 Duo processors), but this time is different -- both 13.3-inch models are now available with Core i5 and i7 processors. The lower end model starts at $1,199, and features a 2.4GHz dual-core Core i5 processor, 4GB of RAM, and 320GB hard drive. Going up to the 2.7GHz dual-core Core i7 CPU and 500GB hard drive will set you back $1,499. This duo doesn't get the AMD graphics treatment like the others, but from what we've heard Intel's new HD 3000 integrated graphics is more powerful than ever.

* 15-inch MacBook Pro - No more Core i5 options for the middle child -- these two strictly get the Core i7 and AMD Radeon HD 6000M goods. The $1,799 model packs a 2.0GHz quad-core Core i7 processor, AMD Radeon HD6490M graphics with 1GB of VRAM, and a 500GB hard drive. On the higher end, there's a $2,199 model which buys you a faster 2.2GHz Core i7 chip, AMD Radeon 6750M graphics, and 750GB hard drive. There are also 128GB, 256GB, and 512GB SSD options. Also, as far as we understand, the graphics switching will work exactly like the previous models -- it automatically switches between the GPU and IGP depending on what you're doing.

* 17-inch MacBook Pro - Last but not least you've got the all-powerful 17-incher, which basically has the same specs as that high-end 15-incher -- for $2,499 you get that same 2.2GHz Core i7 processor, AMD Radeon 6750M graphics, and a 750GB hard drive. Naturally, you can spec this one out with those aforementioned SSD options.

Nice refresh.
 

flensr

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Still weigh too much... I like the 13" and 15" specs but they are both 1lb overweight. Plus no blu-ray, no usb 3.0, no esata... They look like nice laptops but they're missing a bunch of features that will be present on a number of competing laptops at lower price points.
 

mnewsham

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Still weigh too much... I like the 13" and 15" specs but they are both 1lb overweight. Plus no blu-ray, no usb 3.0, no esata... They look like nice laptops but they're missing a bunch of features that will be present on a number of competing laptops at lower price points.

No you don't get it... it's a Mac.
 

nitromullet

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Still weigh too much... I like the 13" and 15" specs but they are both 1lb overweight. Plus no blu-ray, no usb 3.0, no esata... They look like nice laptops but they're missing a bunch of features that will be present on a number of competing laptops at lower price points.

Intel doesn't include USB 3.0 on their chipsets, which is probably why. They did include Thunderbolt (Light Peak) though. http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/24/apple-unveils-thunderbolt/

...we'll have to see if Thunderbolt is here to stay/replaces USB 3.0, or if it goes the way of Intel's Rambus push in the DDR2 days.
 

Zap

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How do they get 7 hr battery life out of a quad i7?

#1 OSX is super optimized for battery life, so the same hardware will get better battery life versus running any version of Windows/Linux.

#2 These are using Sandy Bridge CPUs, which have very good power characteristics. The TDP listed for the CPUs basically includes the IGP and what was previously the Northbridge.

#3 flensr claims they weigh more than they should - maybe that extra weight goes into the battery as more mAh?
 

mnewsham

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The lack of a BD option on the 15/17in models is pretty crappy. These are features a high end notebook should have, far as I'm concerned.

Why is BD important? It was a dying media before it even became somewhat mainstream as far as im concerned. You can stream 1080p video a lot easier then you can buy a Bluray. And streaming is only going to get easier. I think within a few years we will be streaming 3D on netflix. It wouldn't be too hard.
 

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BD & HDMI aren't great specs from a technical standpoint. But for the time being they are fairly well integrated into the A/V industry. Now that the PC/laptop industry is catching up you could say it's "standard" because it's being carried over from the other industry.
 

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Man, light peak is retardedly lame, lol. Should be just what apple wants though, something that "regular" pc users won't be using, instead we'll be sticking to our "inferior" usb 3. lol
 

TheStu

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Man, light peak is retardedly lame, lol. Should be just what apple wants though, something that "regular" pc users won't be using, instead we'll be sticking to our "inferior" usb 3. lol

LightPeak supports 10Gbps full duplex, and 6 daisy chained devices. It is based on PCIe, so you can turn it into anything you want, from video (DVI, HDMI, VGA, DP) to any other kind of IO (USB2, USB3, Firewire, eSATA). You just need the right adapters, and since it is daisy chaining, one port can handle a whole bunch of stuff.

USB 3 is great and all, but LightPeak is better, now we just need peripherals for it.
 

flensr

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Agreed about lightpeak being "better", but for NOW, USB 3.0 and esata are required items, while lack of BD means hooking up a redundant external drive, ruining the apple esthetic. Without those items, the MBP is like a smart and good looking guy who is missing one arm... Just not a complete package no matter how nice the rest of the incomplete feature set is.
 

TheStu

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Agreed about lightpeak being "better", but for NOW, USB 3.0 and esata are required items, while lack of BD means hooking up a redundant external drive, ruining the apple esthetic. Without those items, the MBP is like a smart and good looking guy who is missing one arm... Just not a complete package no matter how nice the rest of the incomplete feature set is.

What I like about MiniDP (which is now Thunderbolt, silly name) is that it is compatible with more stuff than HDMI. You have to buy adapters (very very lame, but MonoPrice has em cheaper than Apple), but with them you can hook up to DVI, VGA or HDMI w/ audio passthrough. With HDMI you have just DVI and HDMI and there are still projectors out there that don't have either of those, or older CRTs.

As for eSATA... I just don't know, there is a limit to how many ports these things can have, though I suppose those combo ports like you see on mobos and some Dells would work.

Again though, Thunder, Thunder, Thunder, ThunderBOLT HOOOO! (sorry :awe will work with all these things.
 

flensr

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If they'd made the usb ports both USB 3.0, and have one a combo USB/HDMI or something, they could have made it all fit. Even the 15" has the same ports as the 13", which seems strange.

I don't want tomorrow's computer today, which will be too slow to do anything when tomorrow shows up. I want today's computer today, and these MBPs are a strange mix of yesterday and tomorrow, with the only today part being the new cpu. I would have bought one TODAY if they included the hardware features that my wife's "ancient" toshiba R700 has, but the new MBP doesn't even come close. The MBP has a hefty aluminum body which is neat but heavy, and a better screen and the new cpu, but everything else is slower or less compatible than that R700. Nothing there to entice me to buy this iteration and there will be more feature rich options available within a month that WILL have USB 3.0, esata, BD, plus various other neat features to choose from like wi-di, wimax, bluetooth, multiple display outputs, etc.

Swing and a miss, which is a shame because I sort of wanted a MBP this time around and I've been looking for an excuse to get one. But I can't spend that much money on a computer with less features than something I already bought for my wife after doing a ton of research, so I'll have to wait.
 

TheStu

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If they'd made the usb ports both USB 3.0, and have one a combo USB/HDMI or something, they could have made it all fit. Even the 15" has the same ports as the 13", which seems strange.

I don't want tomorrow's computer today, which will be too slow to do anything when tomorrow shows up. I want today's computer today, and these MBPs are a strange mix of yesterday and tomorrow, with the only today part being the new cpu. I would have bought one TODAY if they included the hardware features that my wife's "ancient" toshiba R700 has, but the new MBP doesn't even come close. The MBP has a hefty aluminum body which is neat but heavy, and a better screen and the new cpu, but everything else is slower or less compatible than that R700. Nothing there to entice me to buy this iteration and there will be more feature rich options available within a month that WILL have USB 3.0, esata, BD, plus various other neat features to choose from like wi-di, wimax, bluetooth, multiple display outputs, etc.

Swing and a miss, which is a shame because I sort of wanted a MBP this time around and I've been looking for an excuse to get one. But I can't spend that much money on a computer with less features than something I already bought for my wife after doing a ton of research, so I'll have to wait.

All Macs have Bluetooth, have for about a decade.

And no one is trying to convince you to buy a Mac, I mean its great that you were thinking about it and all, but... I don't know, it is like me and Linux. I am not a fan of linux, I look at it and say 'yea that's nice, but I have OS X and Windows, so why do I need you.' or 'That's an interesting feature, but Windows has X, which is awfully like that'. So everytime I try linux, which is about once a year, I promptly uninstall it after about 2 weeks to a month.

Your preconceptions can color everything, and no one is immune, not really.
 
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