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JK949

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Gather round folks. I need to know what heat sink is the king of cooling for my Q9450.
I was running Prime95 and 20 minutes in I was looking at 77c average from RealTemp
and CoreTemp. IDLE IS 42C at 2.9 ghz and 37 at the stock 2.66. That's a huge jump in a very short time. 2 cores hit 83. I'm looking at the Domino ALS from Coolit for a liquid
setup. It is very inexpensive, maintenance free and comes ready to mount. What do
you think about the CoolerMaster V8 ? The reviews I managed to find are positive.
 

Markfw

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Air cooling is all I know. If you want more than that, try the cases and cooling forum, they know whats up.

For an air cooler Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme is king. TRUE for short around here.
 

TidusZ

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Get the black edition so you can mount two fans. Or get the copper edition if your rich - the price / performance isnt great on it. Maybe a degree or two cooler.
 

TC91

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the xigmatek hdt coolers are great bang for buck. I'm waiting for the xigmatek Thor's Hammer heatsink to come out first before i get a new heatsink though. Right now a lapped TRUE in a push/pull config should have the highest air cooling performance imo.
 

dbcooper1

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I have my Q9550 at 4.0 with the Xigmatek s1283 and temps max between 62-65 full load. Push/pull fans but nothing else special. I did mount with a back plate and used AS5.
 

Tempered81

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I'd vote for the Thermalright ultra 120, Xigmatek s1283, or Sunbeam Corecontact Freezer
 

Idontcare

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Frostytech says Sunbeamtech Core-Contact Freezer ($30 w/MIR) is best, followed by Spire Thermax II (SP67951), followed by Xigmatek HDT-S1283 ($37 shipped).

Thermalright Ultra 120 is fifth ranked, but no reference is given for the fan used (if any) and the ?°C between the TRUE and the top rated HSF is less than 2°C so you probably can't go wrong going with any of these options.
 

Markfw

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Originally posted by: Idontcare
Frostytech says Sunbeamtech Core-Contact Freezer ($30 w/MIR) is best, followed by Spire Thermax II (SP67951), followed by Xigmatek HDT-S1283 ($37 shipped).

Thermalright Ultra 120 is fifth ranked, but no reference is given for the fan used (if any) and the ?°C between the TRUE and the top rated HSF is less than 2°C so you probably can't go wrong going with any of these options.

Sorry, but I have all three. The Xigmatek is OK, but the true blows it away. The Sunbeam is not even as good as the Xigmatek, the springs are way too weak. No I don't have the stats like these websites, so believe it or not...
 

Nathelion

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There is that one Noctua thingy too that beat the TRUE in the anandtech review

Edit: Spelling
 

SickBeast

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Originally posted by: Markfw900
Originally posted by: Idontcare
Frostytech says Sunbeamtech Core-Contact Freezer ($30 w/MIR) is best, followed by Spire Thermax II (SP67951), followed by Xigmatek HDT-S1283 ($37 shipped).

Thermalright Ultra 120 is fifth ranked, but no reference is given for the fan used (if any) and the ?°C between the TRUE and the top rated HSF is less than 2°C so you probably can't go wrong going with any of these options.

Sorry, but I have all three. The Xigmatek is OK, but the true blows it away. The Sunbeam is not even as good as the Xigmatek, the springs are way too weak. No I don't have the stats like these websites, so believe it or not...

I dunno, there are conflicting reports about this. I have read at least 3 reviews where the Xigmatek completely beat the TRUE. For some reason, there are a few people on here who claim they know someone at NASA or whatever who says that the TRUE is better because it has more heatpipes and cools better when under a heavy load *shrug*.

For my money, I would get the Xigmatek. The TRUE is too expensive for what you get IMO.
 

imported_wired247

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very happy with sunbeam ccf here. I know Mark didn't like the spring tension but to me, it's very tight and definitely secure. it's not too heavy which is a plus.
 

NesuD

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My sunbeam has been outstanding. Springs seemed pretty heavy to me. I have mounted a lot of heatsinks over the years so I have a pretty fair feel for heavy springs versus soft ones. I did however get a sunbeam that came with a broken spring. It wasn't obvious to look at it but it definately was when you mounted it. In any case mine is performing admirably.
 

Krynj

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Very pleased OCV Vendetta 2 user here. Average casual computing temps are around mid 20s. 100% load rarely goes above 50c. Q6600 OCd to 3GHz in an Antec 1200.
 

Markfw

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Originally posted by: wired247
very happy with sunbeam ccf here. I know Mark didn't like the spring tension but to me, it's very tight and definitely secure. it's not too heavy which is a plus.

Maybe aI got a defective part, I didn;t even think it was attached it was so easy to clip on. And the temps are not as good as the 1283. Same design, but 4 heat pipes instead of 3. Should be better, as all else seems the same (fan speed, aluminum fins, etc...)
 

SunnyD

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Originally posted by: Markfw900
Originally posted by: wired247
very happy with sunbeam ccf here. I know Mark didn't like the spring tension but to me, it's very tight and definitely secure. it's not too heavy which is a plus.

Maybe aI got a defective part, I didn;t even think it was attached it was so easy to clip on. And the temps are not as good as the 1283. Same design, but 4 heat pipes instead of 3. Should be better, as all else seems the same (fan speed, aluminum fins, etc...)

I'll admit I was shocked when I installed my CCF last night. Once I got past the logistics of it, it went on a hell of a lot easier than my AC Freezer 64 Pro did, and I was worried that it didn't have enough tension. But a 10C drop in load temps so far seem to indicate that fear is unfounded. I still have to put the panel back on my case to be certain though.
 

ultimahwhat

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Originally posted by: JK949
It is very inexpensive, maintenance free and comes ready to mount.

<insert joke of your choice here> (sorry, I couldn't resist).

Seriously though, I have a Xigmatek s1283, and it was a really good value with a rebate last summer. I had been using it to cool an Athlon X2, but I'm about to transfer it onto a PII X4 940. I hope the cooling performance expectation holds up on the new CPU...

 

geno

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Originally posted by: jaredpace
I'd vote for the Thermalright ultra 120, Xigmatek s1283, or Sunbeam Corecontact Freezer

Be warned, the Sunbeam uses what, to me, looks like a cheesy setup for S775 CPU's. I was dead set on buying it until I saw it's weird ring attachment with push pins. I felt much more comfortable with something with a bolt-through option and got an S1283.
 

BonzaiDuck

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For just performance that overshadows the TRUE, I say the IFX_14 with more confidence, and the TRUE-Copper version. This latter beast is heavy, though. On the other hand, I've seen motherboards touting "durability" features that might make the TRUE-Cu feasible in a tower setup. Maybe.

I've also run into stats here at the forums from people using CoolIt products, which I find impressive. They're hybrid coolers with TEC features.

For your Q9450, your temperatures look to be a tad high, but I'm assuming your using the stock cooler, so my perceptions don't count. I think those quad-Penryns have a TDP around 95W, and your overclock settings are pretty modest. That being said, there have been problems in the idle range for sensors on the E0 steppings of Wolfdale and Yorkfield. My Wolfdale sensors are stuck at 51C, and then show higher values as the temperatures rise above 51. Further, BIOS versions last year didn't keep up with the code revisions necessary to read Penryn temperatures, so you'd see a lot of weird values with different BIOS versions for the same board and processor.

I've got the TRUE in one Q6600 B3 system, and a Noctua NH-U12P in the Wolfdale E0 -- with the latter showing only a modest performance edge over the TRUE. So for that difference, lapping the IHS and heatsink base to bare copper will have a much bigger impact.
 

Rhoxed

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I use the Xigmatek Dark Knight with 2 silverstone 110CFM fans. Coming from a Xigmatek s93 (92mm) and a Zalman 9700, the Dark Knight kills them in thermals.
 

videogames101

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To repeat, the TRUE ultra 120 is the bets heatsink money can buy.

That being said, don't buy it. Get the xigmatek 1283.



also, this belongs in cases and cooling.
 

Gillbot

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Originally posted by: Markfw900
Air cooling is all I know. If you want more than that, try the cases and cooling forum, they know whats up.

For an air cooler Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme is king. TRUE for short around here.

Markfw900
CPUs and Overclocking Moderator

I thought you could move it there for him?

Anyway, Some of us water cooling guys browse here too. If you want ultimate cooling, water is where it's at. Though there are some really good air coolers out there as long as you can live with their drawbacks, such as weight and size.

Originally posted by: videogames101
also, this belongs in cases and cooling.

Probably, depends on if he's more concerned about his OC than cooling.
 

Markfw

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I PM'ed the OP> This probably should be in cases and cooling.
 

Denithor

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The S1283 is on sale at newegg right now for $27 after $10 MIR. And free shipping. So don't wait, act now, get yours before they're gone. (Did I sound like a suitably greasy infomercial there?)
 

videogames101

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Originally posted by: Markfw900
I PM'ed the OP> This probably should be in cases and cooling.

your a mod...?


right?


And OP, you won't get more than a few mhz more out of a TRUE extreme compared to the xigmatek 1283.
 

Markfw

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The subject also pertains to his OC, so I was going to ask...

However, I reread the thread, and I think its time to move.....
 
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