because any time some mentally unstable person kills someone with a gun, you anti-gun wackjobs freak out and want everyone's guns taken away.
I think his point was pretty clear. And they do report on people dying in alcohol related accidents and car accidents and drug overdoses.
The OP didn't say anything about gun control. It's you gun loons who always start screaming your heads off everytime someone points out something bad someone else did involving a shooting. You gun loons sure are defensive and paranoid when it comes to this...wonder why that is?
because any time some mentally unstable person kills someone with a gun, you anti-gun wackjobs freak out and want everyone's guns taken away.
because any time some mentally unstable person kills someone with a gun, you anti-gun wackjobs freak out and want everyone's guns taken away.
Careful, he will post his picture of his old man revolver and scream he is a gun owner, even though his posts on these boards pretty much lump him in with every other gun-hating loon out there.
They are already on the black market. Hell people in prison still find ways to make crossbows and kill each other. With the insane amount of undocumented guns (like every gun I own) on the market, it would be impossible to find and stop the sale of firearms.
All you accomplish is turning a large majority of americans into criminals while preventing law abiding citizens from defending themselves. Existing people already using firearms illegally will have no effect to their day to day operations (With the exception of their job getting easier).
Firearm bans worked well in places where there were registries of all owned firearms. Do you really think the majority of americans would tell the government how many guns they own? I'd argue the popularity of firearms would increase if they were banned. Look at how sales spiked on assault weapons just because of a rumor (without proof) that obama's election would cause a renew of the assault weapons ban. Look at how hard it is to find high cap mags right now after the recent shootings.
I'd argue that the guns are a point of pleasure just as much as booze. I own many many guns, most for pleasure. I own many many bottles of rare and strange booze, again mostly for pleasure. I rarely use both (and never use both at the same time).
Raising education would solve a lot of our problems a lot faster then banning anything that can be abused. If someone wants you dead, they are going to find a way to attempt their goal. Car, gun, spork, poison, or even their own bare hands. Murder rates are now lower just because guns are banned, murders from firearms are lower because guns are banned. If a guy comes home and his wife is banging his best friend, he doesn't go "well, I don't own a gun, so let's talk about this". He grabs a knife, or vase, or golf club and beats him to death. If he was going to talk it out he would talk it out with or without a gun.
I've owned guns from the time I was old enough to point one down range. I even owned scary black guns and wore a trench coat in high school. Being educated in the PROPER of firearms and in morals, ethics has made that gun ownership responsible.
To put it another way, you have more to fear from my cooking then you do my M1.
Well, there ya go. I suppose you'll just have to accept continued shootings then.
I'm 100% ok with with exchanging a chance of death for the right to protect myself.
I think his point was pretty clear. And they do report on people dying in alcohol related accidents and car accidents and drug overdoses.
The OP didn't say anything about gun control. It's you gun loons who always start screaming your heads off everytime someone points out something bad someone else did involving a shooting. You gun loons sure are defensive and paranoid when it comes to this...wonder why that is?
Nope...I'm NOT anti-gun, but I DO think that something needs to be done. Unfortunately, gun control doesn't work. Too many ways around the very minor restrictions that are placed on gun ownership.
"Oh no...I have to wait X number of days to pick up my legally purchased rifle/handgun."
All that does is slow down the legal purchasers...and does NOT A FUCKING THING about the guns that are sold daily on the "black market."
I don't have the answer to the problem, and if I did, I'd either get shot by a card-carrying NRA nutjob who thinks I'm trying to restrict his/her Second Amendment rights, or by some lunatic who thinks I'm too anti-crime.
Of the two, I'm far more anti-crime than I am for restricting gun ownership. I think almost everyone should be able to legally own and carry firearms. I support concealed carry laws in most cases...but agree that there are probably some places where they might not be a good idea.
We already have tons of gun laws on the books. If the government actually started enforcing them...it'd be anarchy.
How about making crimes involving firearms capital crimes? You use a gun to rob or assault someone? Death penalty.
You shoot someone (not in clear self-defense)? Death penalty.
You STEAL someone's legal firearm? Death penalty.
What does work is increased education
Nope...I'm NOT anti-gun, but I DO think that something needs to be done. Unfortunately, gun control doesn't work. Too many ways around the very minor restrictions that are placed on gun ownership.
"Oh no...I have to wait X number of days to pick up my legally purchased rifle/handgun."
All that does is slow down the legal purchasers...and does NOT A FUCKING THING about the guns that are sold daily on the "black market."
I don't have the answer to the problem, and if I did, I'd either get shot by a card-carrying NRA nutjob who thinks I'm trying to restrict his/her Second Amendment rights, or by some lunatic who thinks I'm too anti-crime.
Of the two, I'm far more anti-crime than I am for restricting gun ownership. I think almost everyone should be able to legally own and carry firearms. I support concealed carry laws in most cases...but agree that there are probably some places where they might not be a good idea.
We already have tons of gun laws on the books. If the government actually started enforcing them...it'd be anarchy.
How about making crimes involving firearms capital crimes? You use a gun to rob or assault someone? Death penalty.
You shoot someone (not in clear self-defense)? Death penalty.
You STEAL someone's legal firearm? Death penalty.
Why is it so hard to understand that these "nutjobs" are hell bent on breaking the law. PERIOD... Last time I checked wasn't it ALREADY against the law to kill someone????
Here are all the laws that are broken when someone shoots someone:
1) Murder
2) Possibly Attempted Murder
3) Felony Menancing
4) Most likely carrying a concealed weapon without a permit
Should I go on????
Do we really think Nasty Johnny is NOT going to ROB the 7-11 because he can't take his non-licensed gun???
The ONLY individuals that follow the laws of society are the ones you DON'T have to worry about, including their RIGHT to own guns or not. It's the ones that DO NOT folllow the laws of society and it pretty PISS POOR that we think one more law will make them change their mind...
Sometimes I wish that some of these people's parents had used proper birth control.
Well, the guy in Arizona followed all the laws and was a law abiding gun owner right up to the point at which he went on a shooting spree and killed 14 people.
Keywords: "right up to the point"
To get to that "point" he had already violated the concealed law carry, he also committed a felony by pointing a weapon at someone...
So which one of those laws stopped him????????????
Keywords: "right up to the point"
To get to that "point" he had already violated the concealed law carry, he also committed a felony by pointing a weapon at someone...
So which one of those laws stopped him????????????
I was simply pointing out the fact that he obtained the gun legally.
Which puts him in a small minority.
Obviously, education only works in regards to reducing pregnancies (sex ed), telling people not to have sex, err... guns works at reducing violence.
lol, ok. Your choice. It does dramatically increase the Need to Protect oneself though, but your choice.
Well, there ya go. I suppose you'll just have to accept continued shootings then.
Proof? I mean dramatic proof. Am I 5 times more likely to be murdered in a nation with guns then a nation that bans them? 10 times more likely?
I want to see dramatic decreases in violent crime that makes up for the small increase from illegal gun ownership. I still submit that crimes of passion and robberies/home invasions are just as likely with or without guns.
You're more likely to kill yourself than be involved in a homicide in the USA. So unless you're going to make the argument that we need to be protected from ourselves, there isn't much more that needs to be said on the subject.
So.... why are you afraid of others owning a gun again? or maybe you're afraid of yourself?Pretty much true anywhere. With a few exceptions in War zones.
So.... why are you afraid of others owning a gun again? or maybe you're afraid of yourself?