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PokerGuy

Lifer
Jul 2, 2005
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This is one of the downsides of a Trump presidency, the FCC was on the right path and now they are not going to be able to do the job anymore.

None of that would be necessary if there was competition among cable / internet providers. Real competition would eliminate a lot of the crap we as consumers have to put up with.... but as it stands there is no competition so we need the FCC to help, but my guess is Trump is not going to be on board with that.
 

cubby1223

Lifer
May 24, 2004
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Well, when you make the election all about labeling others racists, misogynists, bigots, homophobes, & xenophobes, there's little room left over to actually dive into the other issues that are important to you.

My suggestion is next election cycle demand the Democrats run a campaign focused on issues.
 
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Set-top reform '95% dead' at FCC with Trump taking office, analyst says.
Postcards from the edge. It just keeps getting better and better.
Pretty much any regulatory rule change at this point in Obama's presidency is dead. To try and enact a rule change now is to risk having it vetoed by Congress and effectively having an injunction on future actions in the same vein (until Congress reverses itself) .

http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2016...-could-quickly-erase-scores-major-regulations
Under a seldom used law, the next Congress could quickly overturn more than 100 major regulations recently finalized by the Obama administration, including rules that aim to reduce greenhouse gas emissions, protect sensitive environments from energy development, improve nutrition labels on food products, and regulate electronic cigarettes.

And once Congress has acted to reject a regulation, federal agencies are barred from reissuing “substantially similar” rules unless lawmakers allow it. That draconian possibility – allowed under the 1996 Congressional Review Act (CRA) – has set off alarm bells among numerous interest groups, including environmental, labor and public health organizations.

The CRA was crafted by former Representative Newt Gingrich (R-GA) – now a major supporter of President-elect Donald Trump – and his anti-regulation Republican allies in the 1990s. It aims to prevent outgoing administrations from pushing through so-called “midnight regulations” – rules finalized in the last months of a presidency -- by giving Congress 60 days to review new rules (days only count while Congress is in session). If a simple majority of lawmakers in both the Senate and House of Representatives votes to reject a rule, and the president signs the resolution, the rule is vacated. And the agency isn’t allowed to try again to write a similar rule unless lawmakers approve.
 

cubby1223

Lifer
May 24, 2004
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Was it worth giving up this set-top reform legislation for the experiences of mocking white middle-America? Actions have consequences.
 
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Jul 9, 2009
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Pretty much any regulatory rule change at this point in Obama's presidency is dead. To try and enact a rule change now is to risk having it vetoed by Congress and effectively having an injunction on future actions in the same vein (until Congress reverses itself) .

http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2016...-could-quickly-erase-scores-major-regulations
These small footnotes are one of the greatest parts of the Trump victory. Little known, little seen, but huge in long lasting political effect.
 

alien42

Lifer
Nov 28, 2004
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Was it worth giving up this set-top reform legislation for the experiences of mocking white middle-America? Actions have consequences.

was it worth voting for Trump to destroy this legislation? actions do have consequences.
 
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poofyhairguy

Lifer
Nov 20, 2005
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So yet another made up percentage. He even admits that:

"We don't know what Trump thinks about set-top boxes," Lewis said.

I for one don't care for this whole FCC plan. They already tried once to help us in this area and it created the technology ghetto that is cablecard. I am against them trying again.

In fact I don't want any regulations tied to set top boxes, as that might slow down a very vibrant part of the technology industry that is providing consumers real choices. I love how in this field technology upstarts (like Roku) can go toe-to-toe with giants like Apple and Google and thrive. Meanwhile the FCC created cablecard ghetto is tied to Microsoft, and I bet any universal FCC mandated set top box will have requirements only the big companies can comply with.

If cable as a service continues to provide an experience that is subpar the best alternative is to cut the cord and exist on what set top boxes currently provide (which is more entertainment than almost anyone had in say 1999). I don't want government getting in there because most likely the FCC would have fortified the position of cable companies in the market as part of the deal. I want them to be dumb pipes in 20 years.
 

cubby1223

Lifer
May 24, 2004
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was it worth voting for Trump to destroy this legislation? actions do have consequences.
Is that question directed towards me? You likely would get a better answer asking that to someone who voted for Trump. All I can do is speculate on other people's thoughts.

You are more than welcome to answer my question if it applies to you.
 
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HamburgerBoy

Lifer
Apr 12, 2004
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This is something Trump should make a primary objective. I'd imagine that his supporters are disproportionate consumers of cable television, so just imagine how much the common man would love him if he did some trust-busting there. It'd be a guaranteed 2020 victory.
 
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I just don't understand why the FCC doesn't say Cable guys you need to give customers an option to buy their boxes at a reasonable retail markup.
Doesn't solve everything but its simple and addresses most of the problem.
 

JSt0rm

Lifer
Sep 5, 2000
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Was it worth giving up this set-top reform legislation for the experiences of mocking white middle-America? Actions have consequences.

Yes it was... because us city folk have multiple internet and cable providers. Only you deplorables in rural America are stuck with one provider.
 
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IronWing

No Lifer
Jul 20, 2001
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Well, when you make the election all about labeling others racists, misogynists, bigots, homophobes, & xenophobes, there's little room left over to actually dive into the other issues that are important to you.

My suggestion is next election cycle demand the Democrats run a campaign focused on issues.
Silly me, but I blame Trump voters (and the rigged electoral college system ) for Trump's win. You get the government you vote for.

Edit: words cannot describe my contempt for the new icon. The old one was perfect. The new one looks like I'm cheerfully offering to lick someone's butt.
 

cubby1223

Lifer
May 24, 2004
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Silly me, but I blame Trump voters for Trump's win.
Your analysis reminded me of a network NFL broadcaster before a game last year explaining his key to the game (no joke) "The team that will be victorious today will be the team that can score more points than their opponent."

"Trump won because people voted for Trump."
 

soundforbjt

Lifer
Feb 15, 2002
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Your analysis reminded me of a network NFL broadcaster before a game last year explaining his key to the game (no joke) "The team that will be victorious today will be the team that can score more points than their opponent."
I remember that one.
 

Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
Nov 11, 1999
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Well, when you make the election all about labeling others racists, misogynists, bigots, homophobes, & xenophobes, there's little room left over to actually dive into the other issues that are important to you.

My suggestion is next election cycle demand the Democrats run a campaign focused on issues.

I thought the election was about Hillary's emails...
 

jackstar7

Lifer
Jun 26, 2009
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This is one of the downsides of a Trump presidency, the FCC was on the right path and now they are not going to be able to do the job anymore.

None of that would be necessary if there was competition among cable / internet providers. Real competition would eliminate a lot of the crap we as consumers have to put up with.... but as it stands there is no competition so we need the FCC to help, but my guess is Trump is not going to be on board with that.
Competition from where? Who is going to start laying new cable everywhere? How will they get the permits to do so?

It's amazing how many people have access to the paltry bandwidth that we do in the U.S., but the free market would fall in line and favor monopolistic behavior for this "product" because of the level of investment required to get started now.

Add to that Trump potentially ending net neutrality and watch as this "product" becomes more expensive and less useful.
 
Feb 4, 2009
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I just thought it's probably likely to continue since Trump hates the media and media companies. He'll do it just to piss them off.
 

IronWing

No Lifer
Jul 20, 2001
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Your analysis reminded me of a network NFL broadcaster before a game last year explaining his key to the game (no joke) "The team that will be victorious today will be the team that can score more points than their opponent."

"Trump won because people voted for Trump."
No, I just find it ridiculous that the people who voted for Trump are trying to blame his victory on the people who didn't vote for him. Trump supporters need to own their votes.
 
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IronWing

No Lifer
Jul 20, 2001
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I just thought it's probably likely to continue since Trump hates the media and media companies. He'll do it just to piss them off.
What? Trump loves the media. He would die without them. Getting his name in the news proves he's alive.
 
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