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buckshot24

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Considering no president, or political race, afaik, has ever won an election by a single vote, that is a rather bold analysis you have made.
Which is why I was saying individual voters don't hold individual responsibility for what the candidate they voted for does. Collectively they do.
 

momeNt

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The details of this regulation is pretty suspect. Who is supposed to provide the software for the signal? Shouldn't the software have licensing costs? Who pays those?

Playstation Vue sounds like a much better solution, Playstation negotiated with stations, and is allowed to publish it on their platform, similar to Hulu. Why not just encourage internet driven TV and encourage TV networks to work out deals with anybody who wants to make a platform similar to the Vue?
 

trenchfoot

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No, I just find it ridiculous that the people who voted for Trump are trying to blame his victory on the people who didn't vote for him. Trump supporters need to own their votes.

There is a possibility that Trump, a known control freak, will be so overwhelmed with bureaucratic minutiae and the entrepreneurial verbiage that is inherent in its intricacies <--(example) that he will be constantly exploited by it from those lower level bureaucrats that are hired for their skill in the art of manipulating the details of any legislation in order to benefit the agenda of those that placed them into their positions. <-----AKA the rigged system.

Situations like this was the furthest thing in the minds of Trump's supporters who voted for him, but is a direct consequence of their actions. IMO, this how the intentions of voters get turned against them without their knowledge or consent. This is where voters get something they never bargained for, yet meekly acquiesce to it as a price to pay for voting their conscience. Their control of government ends at that point and the shadow government, where personal/organizational agendas actually get won or lost, takes over.

This is where money talks and bullshit walks, yet is totally out of the hands of the voting public until the next election. However, the damage is already done, still hidden from the purview of the public, yet benefiting those whose interests may have been completely contrary to the wishes of the voters who "won" their election.

The well meaning working class voters who believed Trump's promises and who believed that their wishes and concerns will be honored by Trump, will, IMO, be superseded by the wishes and needs of the far right wing of the party who Trump is forever indebted to, as they are the ones who gave Trump his victory in the primary, and they are the ones who will reap the lion's share of the spoils.

With a neophyte like Trump in control of this tangled web of agendas, it's inescapable that the opportunists have already positioned themselves at the front of the line for the Trump buffet banquet. And anybody with a previously approved far right wing membership card is going to get their share and then some. The working class voters who put Trump in the White House? You're at the back of the line as you really don't matter any more, until the next election, of course.

To the victor goes the spoils? Sure, but the unintended consequences of it can be remarkable in its scope, especially so when a group of extremists are in control of a level in the hierarchy where even Trump himself will ignore in favor of more "pressing needs of the people".

Trump has, time and again, surprised the nation with totally unexpected actions and behavior and the results thereof, and with hope, he'll surprise us again, where he will challenge the dug in well fortified rigged system he so railed against and actually win in the battle of wills of which the voters of America sent him to fight.

He promised to fight for the people by dismantling the rigged gov't that up to this point in time have dictated terms to them when it should have been quite the opposite. I really do hope he was serious about that. I really do.
 

pcgeek11

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Size matters!

But size does not pertain to ellipses. Three dots and done, my fevered rhetorical opponent.

And, no, you do not combine a period with ellipses, if that's what you're thinking.



Trump's election moved the needle from uncertain to almost assuredly dead. It is just another relatively SMALL but relevant example of how the ascendancy of Trump, the supposed populist, is surrounding himself with entrenched interests who will screw over all the angry little guys and their actual real life concerns while continuing to feed them the demagogic read meat of libruls, Mexicans, Mooselums in much the same way that dangerously amiable boob Reagan used the MYTH of the Welfare Queen to cover his gutting of social services that were helping many of the very (white but economically disadvantaged) people who voted for him.

It was dead before, just twitching a bit. Your campaign to blame this on Trumps win in the election is misleading at best.
 

Puffnstuff

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Mar 9, 2005
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The more I see Trump's selections lining up the more I ponder which TV show/movie do they most closely represent. Then it hit me...folks we're witnessing the modern day Beverly Hillbilly's or is it Ma and Pa Kettle? Nope the Kettle's were respectable folks just like the original Clampets. Anyways I expect for the Whitehouse to resemble this soon. Enjoy.
 

jackstar7

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Jun 26, 2009
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Well, in the more "great news" topic, he announced a fat fucking lie claiming credit for a KY Ford plant not moving to Mexico.
The short version is that the plant in question was never moving to Mexico. Zero jobs were "saved" by Dear Leader T-Rump.

His disciples are spreading his good word in spite of reality.
 

momeNt

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Jan 26, 2011
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Well, in the more "great news" topic, he announced a fat fucking lie claiming credit for a KY Ford plant not moving to Mexico.
The short version is that the plant in question was never moving to Mexico. Zero jobs were "saved" by Dear Leader T-Rump.

His disciples are spreading his good word in spite of reality.

I think you can agree that this is a win for America regardless.
 

senseamp

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Feb 5, 2006
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I just found out my computer engineering job is not moving to Mexico, thank you Trump.
 

PokerGuy

Lifer
Jul 2, 2005
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Dumped cable last month for Playstation Vue. Never going back.

So you have a new way of consuming media, that's fine, but you are still completely dependent on the internet pipe of your provider. For most people, there's really only one single choice of internet providers. So even if you ditch the cable tv services, they will just jack up the price of internet service and you're still screwed. Competition is key!
 
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I for one don't care for this whole FCC plan. They already tried once to help us in this area and it created the technology ghetto that is cablecard. I am against them trying again.
The regulation doesn't have to be written in a hard and fast way. I could easily envision a regulation as more open-ended; phrased to simply allow other devices appropriate access to a cable company's network or whatever.
If cable as a service continues to provide an experience that is subpar the best alternative is to cut the cord and exist on what set top boxes currently provide (which is more entertainment than almost anyone had in say 1999). I don't want government getting in there because most likely the FCC would have fortified the position of cable companies in the market as part of the deal. I want them to be dumb pipes in 20 years.
That's a nice sentiment, but it's a bit of a Hobson choice. And if you live in a town where the only high speed internet provider is also the cable company, you might get screwed in other ways thanks to the lack of competition.

You don't need to start laying new cable. You can use the existing infrastructure, but there needs to be competition among providers. In most places, it's not that other companies (like Google, Verizon etc) don't want to enter the market, but the cable companies have set up local monopolies in every local areas that prevent anyone else from coming and providing service.
What existing infrastructure? For the most part, the ISPs and cable companies own the lines. I don't think they'll just open them up to competition without the government stepping in. If we want to bring in more competition, new cable needs to be put down - just as Verizon did with their FiOS service, just as municipalities in some parts of the country were/are doing to break the local ISP monopoly, etc...

You might be able to get some competition through internet-tv type stuff, but you'll still run into the problem of local ISP monopolies.
 

jackstar7

Lifer
Jun 26, 2009
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I think you can agree that this is a win for America regardless.
How? What did America win with the status quo?

Do you mean the jobs report showing lowest unemployment in decades? I'm going to attribute that to Obama. Will you?
 
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