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Tweak155

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This is funny.

One moment I`m a Nvidia fanboy, the next I`m paid by AMD.

Anandtech forums, either black and white. Nothing in between

You can be in between. But I browsed through your post history a while back and it seemed pretty clear you were an NVidia fanboy. I'm not just basing it on one or two posts, but a large history.

Unbiased is the way to go though

Warning issued for thread crapping.
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parvadomus

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If that charts are real, NV has nothing to do, not even a fully unlocked GK110 will kill Hawaii.
 

Kallogan

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i'm curious about the power consumption of these puppies.

The charts are almost too perfect to be true. R9 290 beats 780 by 5% and R9 290X beats titan by 5%. That's like chirurgical attack haha.
 
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bystander36

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If that charts are real, NV has nothing to do, not even a fully unlocked GK110 will kill Hawaii.

How so? There is not much difference between them now. All they have to do is unlock them to be near equal, then allow for higher voltage and clocks out of the box.
 

Teizo

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If that charts are real, NV has nothing to do, not even a fully unlocked GK110 will kill Hawaii.

What are you talking about? An overclocked GTX 780 will easily match that as an overclocked 780 is faster than a Titan and was the Titan killer before AMD used the slogan to pump up the 290X.
 

Cloudfire777

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raghu78

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What are you talking about? An overclocked GTX 780 will easily match that as an overclocked 780 is faster than a Titan and was the Titan killer before AMD used the slogan to pump up the 290X.

you are talking as if the R9 290X cannot overclock. btw the second chart shows a R9 290 OC (1050 mhz) beating a 780 OC(1162 mhz). anyway its good for consumers that competiton is back.
 

Rvenger

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Here is the solution. Maybe one of the reasons why AMD have postponed the R9 290X embargo. Can`t have their flagship beaten by Nvidia a day or two after launch you know
http://www.hardwareluxx.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=28127%20%20&catid=38&Itemid=101


Do you not hear correctly? It was misinformation and nothing was delayed. Quit your excessive trolling we don't know how much Hawaii performs until reviews start flooding in. Given the performance difference between the 780 and Titan, I'd say the architecture is tapped out unless NVidia wants to start clocking them much higher. I don't think a fully enabled GK110 will be efficient enough for the 5% performance increase it will have.
 

parvadomus

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What are you talking about? An overclocked GTX 780 will easily match that as an overclocked 780 is faster than a Titan and was the Titan killer before AMD used the slogan to pump up the 290X.

But its easy, Hawaii has better performance at same clocks, than both Titan and 780 (IF that charts are not fake). And the die being smaller, it will OC as much as GTX780 or better. NV cant counter with a full GK110 as it would suck much more energy, to barely beat a small chip, clock for clock. In the end, a full GK110 will probably OC less than a GTX780 too.
 

Cloudfire777

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Do you not hear correctly? It was misinformation and nothing was delayed. Quit your excessive trolling we don't know how much Hawaii performs until reviews start flooding in. Given the performance difference between the 780 and Titan, I'd say the architecture is tapped out unless NVidia wants to start clocking them much higher. I don't think a fully enabled GK110 will be efficient enough for the 5% performance increase it will have.

#1: Embargo was delayed. "Embargo", now go think about what that could mean for a little while before coming in here and making yourself look silly.
Here is a little help: http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=35603236&postcount=63

#2: Architecture is taped out. Eh, since when have consumers gotten a Geforce card thats a full GK110?
Here is a clue for you: http://videocardz.com/44879/nvidia-...ull-gk110-gpu-2880-cuda-cores-and-12gb-memory

A full GK110 will alone give over 7% increase in performance. Higher clocked at the same time, 10%+. Meaning it will beat R9 290X.

#3: I don`t have a text to audio program so I haven`t heard anything. I`ve read it.

I`d say you don`t understand anything at all. Now stop embarrass yourself. Its getting painful to watch.

Knock off the provocation now, or you're going to get a timeout.
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Erenhardt

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What are you talking about? An overclocked GTX 780 will easily match that as an overclocked 780 is faster than a Titan and was the Titan killer before AMD used the slogan to pump up the 290X.

When did nvidia locked overclocking on titan?
 

blackened23

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What are you talking about? An overclocked GTX 780 will easily match that as an overclocked 780 is faster than a Titan and was the Titan killer before AMD used the slogan to pump up the 290X.

Well, if the goal posts shift to overclocking then AMD has already done a hell of a job. Keep in mind that the Titan overclocks very well, too, and once you use the skynet BIOS you can easily match or exceed clockspeeds that GTX 780 users are using. There are modded Titan BIOS users over at OCN who have overclocked in the 1250mhz+ range, which is generally where the best OC'ing 780s are. The issue with the Titan is that the stock BIOS is very restrictive on TDP limits, and this is why the skynet BIOS completely eliminates that issue and "opens up" the Titan, so to speak, with respect to overclocks.

All cards can be OC'ed. Xtremesystems has more or less stated that the 290X overclocks very well on air. Therefore it stands to reason if AMD releases a 290X at a sub 575$ price level which trade blows with the Titan at stock, then the same would be equally true once everything is overclocked. I'd also imagine that AMD doesn't have the TDP / thermal limits that GPU Boost 2.0 does, although you can get around that with a modified BIOS on the Titan.

Again - if the goalposts shift towards overclocking, AMD has already done their job assuming the price is right. For the past generation everything has overclocked equally well with most cards gaining an average of 10-13% of headroom with even a modest overclock. I'm sure the same will be true of the 290X - so you can say "wait the 780 overclocks!" - well, i'm sure the 290X does as well. Various websites are hinting at great air OC's with the 290X, as well. So I guess the response is, "so what if it does overclock?". I would imagine if the 780 gains 10-13% with overclocking, that the 290X would too. So then the response, again, is "so what if the 780 overclocks".

These are generalized speculations, but i'd expect everything to OC just fine based on what I've read at chiphell and other places (that have directly tested OC'ing on the 290X) I'm anxious to see real data as everyone else is, and the situation with the NDA is very annoying to say the least. That said, I personally find the prospect of a 550-575$ 290X very exciting - at that price range, I would imagine that NV would need to shift their pricing downwards on both the 770 and 780. And who wouldn't be happy about that, seriously? Everyone wins if AMD pulls this off, even nvidia users.
 
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chimaxi83

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Grr I'm just impatient and want my card(s) asap! Can't wait to play with one. My Lightnings are gone so I'm getting at least one regardless, unless they're insanely and stupidly priced.
 

Rvenger

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So it could be slower than a Titan, or a GTX780 even!


Exactly. It could be 10% faster in one benchmark but lose in others. They could be cherry picking these leaks or they can be fake altogether. We won't know until release date.


A full GK110 will alone give over 7% increase in performance. Higher clocked at the same time, 10%+. Meaning it will beat R9 290X.


So you have a fully enabled GK110 to back up your stated fact?
 
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Rvenger

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Grr I'm just impatient and want my card(s) asap! Can't wait to play with one. My Lightnings are gone so I'm getting at least one regardless, unless they're insanely and stupidly priced.



I'm having fun with Intel HD 4600. All my cards are sold too. If they are insanely priced I will just buy one of those R280X Asus TOP cards. They seem to be pretty nice.
 
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