Don't mind him. He's always bashing AMD and praising Intel. This is the same person whose Pentium 4 "destroyed" any Athlon 64s in benchmarks.
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What does DDR3-1600/DDR3L-1333 mean? What is the "L" for?
Well, based on recent leaks.. It is within ~3% of phenom II
You can afford the monthly charge for WoW, why not pay a little and have the experience much better and look decent?
So it will continue to get smacked-around in performance by a SB-mobile system? The GPU will be 'less crappy' though, that is good. Gaming on either Intel or Llano will still be pretty poor. Give us another a year or two, and some solid advances, and these IGPs will be on-par with consoles, so that's a plus.
I know it sounds good, but you still are much better dropping $100 on a GPU to play even WoW. You can afford the monthly charge for WoW, why not pay a little and have the experience much better and look decent? These IGPs will get pretty slow in demanding areas...
Can anyone understand this gibberish?
There's really only one person who jumps in every AMD thread and tries to discredit their products before they are released...
I imagine there'll be plenty of information that goes up at midnight. Hopefully Anand has put together a nice article. I've always enjoyed reading his pieces whenever a new architecture, etc. comes out.
What does DDR3-1600/DDR3L-1333 mean? What is the "L" for?
This. Nemesis 1 is this forum's double-digit IQ drunk relative. No one's going to throw him out of the family function, but no one listens to his bullshit non-sense either.
Really! who would that be? I really haven't seen this person jump into review threads of real products out on the Market . I do see this person argueing against the OVER HYPE.
I RENEMBER THE INTEL RELEASE OF C2D and the very early bench marks and the hype against it in this forum . Saying intel was lieing this that and the other. You guys play real fair. NOT! DO a forum search on the subject of early intel c2d benchmarks and than look in mirror. Remove the log from of your own eye befor tring to remove a splinter from anothers
Hay I don't mind ya picking on me fact is I like it . But stop the insults I suspect my IQ is alot higher than yours . NOT a little . A lot!
Because you're playing on a 1333x768 monitor that isn't particularly demanding to push a good framerate on. Or, you're like the people I know who play WoW: non-enthusiasts. Of course my friends and acquaintances aren't a huge sample size, but none of them give a shit about graphics quality as long as it works and it doesn't slow down too much. Hell, two of my friends play WoW on a Radeon HD 4250 despite my offers to get them cards like 5570s for dirt cheap.
It's nice to hear AMD will be competitive in battery life, though how competitive remains to be seen. Why can Ananadtech tell Wall Street Journal but not us?AMD Tries to Close Gap in Chip Power Usage With Intel
By DON CLARK
Advanced Micro Devices Inc. may have at least temporarily thrown off a big burden in its struggle with Intel Corp., a longtime gap in power consumption between AMD chips and those of its larger rival.
AMD on Tuesday is unveiling its second product line that combines two once-separate classes of chip technology, this time targeting notebook PCs at mainstream price points. The new chips include graphics circuitrygood for chores like playing games and high-definition-moviesalong with the microprocessor circuitry AMD has long offered for handling other computing chores.
Besides boosting performance, AMD says laptops using its new A-Series chips can run 3.5 hours more on a single charge than those using its prior technology.
"I think we're really going to surprise the industry with how much we've improved the battery life," Rick Bergman, senior vice president and general manager of AMD's products group.
AMD says the maximum battery life using the new chips now stands at up to 10.5 hoursmeasured when a computer is switched on but idleand said they top comparable Intel products. AnandTech, a website that tests high-tech products, also found that the new AMD chips beat or matched Intel chips in some power-consumption tests that simulate typical usage, though Intel came out ahead in some tests, said Jarred Walton, a senior mobile editor for the site.
AMD still faces an uphill effort. The Sunnyvale, Calif., firm's chips accounted for just 13.2% of world-wide shipments of chips for portable PCs in the first quarter, compared with 86.5% for Intel, according to market tracker Mercury Research.
The AMD chips emulate power-saving techniques already adopted by Intel, and are the first by AMD to adopt a comparable production process after delays by manufacturing partner Globalfoundries. Some analysts believe Intel could regain a power-consumption edge next year with its next manufacturing process, which exploits a major shift in transistor design. AMD also has reported no progress in finding a permanent chief executive to succeed Dirk Meyer, who was forced out in January; that process was expected to take four to six months.
Both Intel and AMD, moreover, have yet to match the power-sipping chip designs of ARM Holdings PLC to play a major role in the fast-moving market for tablet-style computers. Still, AMD's new chips provide some evidence that its 2006 purchase of graphics specialist ATI Technologies is paying dividends.
AMD estimates say the A-Series chips, part of an effort it calls Fusion, will be used in more than 150 notebook PCs being designed by computer makers. Hewlett-Packard Co., for example, on Tuesday is expected to announce 11 portables with the technology, at starting prices ranging from $449 to $699.
"You are finally starting to see the benefits from the acquisition of years ago coming together," says Phil McKinney, vice president and chief technology officer for H-P's personal systems group. AMD has "a potential to carve out an interesting segment for themselves."
Intel earlier this year introduced its second-generation Core chip lineknown by the code-name Sandy Bridgethat also built in graphics technology. "It's easy to make theoretical battery life claims," an Intel spokesman said in response to AMD's announcement. He added there are a "multitude" of laptops using the new Core technology that "deliver both great total performance and great battery life."
Nathan Brookwood, an analyst at the market-research firm Insight 64, said the two companies are likely to be able to point to different kinds of computing jobs where their chips are the fastest. Since AMD's performance on graphics is stronger, he said, the company needs to get developers to create programs that exploit those features.
So AMD this week is hosting an event for software developers in Bellevue, Wash., whose speakers are expected to include developers from Microsoft Corp. and ARM.
Review is up on pc perspective..
http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Processors/AMD-Series-Llano-APU-Sabine-Notebook-Platform-Review
So it will continue to get smacked-around in performance by a SB-mobile system? The GPU will be 'less crappy' though, that is good. Gaming on either Intel or Llano will still be pretty poor. Give us another a year or two, and some solid advances, and these IGPs will be on-par with consoles, so that's a plus.
I know it sounds good, but you still are much better dropping $100 on a GPU to play even WoW. You can afford the monthly charge for WoW, why not pay a little and have the experience much better and look decent? These IGPs will get pretty slow in demanding areas...
What does DDR3-1600/DDR3L-1333 mean? What is the "L" for?
Competitive with what though? If they finally match Intel on battery life, or at least trade blows but at much lower performance whooopie do. Should be interesting to see what Anandtech shows.
It's pretty obvious, but if you haven't noticed, this competes with the Mobile Core i3 and the Core i5. It should be slower in single-threaded applications, but it should match them in multi-threaded ones because of 4 actual cores. Basically, this should deliver CPU performance comparable to the Mobile Core 2 Quads combined with GPU performance comparable to the Radeon HD 5570 or a bit higher. This translates to GPU performance that is 3-4x higher than the Intel HD 3000 and CPU performance that should be overall some 15-20% lower.