This thread isn't really technical, but here's the deal:Originally posted by: BriGy86
so how about if i buy computer parts to put together form new egg and also get an OEM copy
when i 1st activate it does it send info about my mobo to MS?
how would they enforce this in that particular case?
Originally posted by: squirrel dog
The harder MS pushes the public at large on this issue,I feel the worse for MS from a pr standpoint.I see so many bright young people in IT,its just a matter of time before open source goes point and click/plug and play.Once most anyone can use it,MS will have to rethink its marketing structure/strategy.Just my 2 cents.
Originally posted by: engineereeyore
Sounds like just another excuse to never, ever, purchase a legitimate copy of Windows. I get them free now from MSDN through my university, but after that, if they're going to pull crap like this, they'll never get my money.
Not sure what numbers you've been looking at, but in the desktop space (which is what we're talking about here), Microsoft isn't losing anything.open source is mostly there already.
MS is just losing it's stronghold on a market it has had by force.
Originally posted by: TechnoPro
Originally posted by: Genx87
Uh these are OEM licenses, not volume or retail.
OEM licenses are by nature not transferrable.
So Dell PCs that are sold from one individual to another are in violation should the seller leave the OS on the system and include the OS CD?
Originally posted by: smack Down
I think that "using a license key you didn't pay for breaks no law" is gonna be a tough sell in court. "Distributing my license key freely breaks no law" is also something I would have to violently disagree with.
"transferring a license key to/from someone else breaks no law" might fly, but freely redistributing or downloading and using someone else's license keys is equivalent to stealing or giving away copies of the OS.
Well your wrong. What law could be violated by posting numbers on line. It isn't a trade secert. And you can't copyright it because it is not artisitic.
Just because MS doesn't like something doesn't make it illegal.
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: TechnoPro
Originally posted by: Genx87
Uh these are OEM licenses, not volume or retail.
OEM licenses are by nature not transferrable.
So Dell PCs that are sold from one individual to another are in violation should the seller leave the OS on the system and include the OS CD?
How are Dell PCs that are sold from one to another in violation? The License goes with the computer.
Ask not for whom the cash register tolls. It tolls for M$.
I've NEVER heard of anybody actually being DENIED re-activation when they phoned in. Even with the intensified enforcement of OEM-license-transfer-rules, I see reports here on Anandtech Forums that Microsoft's telephone activation center is allowing activation even under circumstances where Microsoft could justifiably deny re-activation.Originally posted by: Staples
I'd have to say that their unofficial policy was always buy a new version of windows whenever you upgrade or hell, even reinstall it for that matter.
I've also seen a lot of cases where they could have legitimatly denied reactivation and let it slide. I suppose they figure if you're going through the trouble to call them you arent going to install it on that many machines...Originally posted by: RebateMonger
I've NEVER heard of anybody actually being DENIED re-activation when they phoned in. Even with the intensified enforcement of OEM-license-transfer-rules, I see reports here on Anandtech Forums that Microsoft's telephone activation center is allowing activation even under circumstances where Microsoft could justifiably deny re-activation.Originally posted by: Staples
I'd have to say that their unofficial policy was always buy a new version of windows whenever you upgrade or hell, even reinstall it for that matter.
Yeah. Not likely that somebody will post here and complain that his stolen Volume License Key was denied Activation.Originally posted by: spyordie007
I'm sure there are activations they deny (i.e. blacklisted product keys), just very uncommon.
Especially since VLK's don't require activation on XP.Not likely that somebody will post here and complain that his stolen Volume License Key was denied Activation
Originally posted by: SparkyJJO
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My bro has XP pro retail - has had it forever, since it came out and he's reloaded several times (new HD, windows crash due to bad drivers) and never had a problem doing so - but then he hasn't changed his mobo since day 1 of XP either....
Does this mean when I put my new build together my XP pro I'm using (that I just bought actually not that long ago) won't work?!
My bro has XP pro retail
Does this mean when I put my new build together my XP pro I'm using (that I just bought actually not that long ago) won't work?!