So, my state, Tennessee, spent $5000 to block 37 druggies (who would have received a total of >$500k) from getting welfare, that they simply would have used to buy more drugs. That seems pretty damned good to me.
So, my state, Tennessee, spent $5000 to block 37 druggies (who would have received a total of >$500k) from getting welfare, that they simply would have used to buy more drugs. That seems pretty damned good to me.
So, my state, Tennessee, spent $5000 to block 37 druggies (who would have received a total of >$500k) from getting welfare, that they simply would have used to buy more drugs. That seems pretty damned good to me.
Man, those 37 druggies were going to receive $13,000+ in cash, and they were going to spend it on drugs?
Probably, that's what addicts do.
How much would you save if you had drug testing before people could take the mortgage credit on their taxes? That's exactly as much money given away as any other kind of welfare. Also drug testing CEOs before we give companies subsidies? I don't want my tax dollars going to that company if the CEO is going to ruin it through drugs! Let's all do drug tests, every day!
Hell, just let them spend $13,000 all at once, they'll OD and they'll be off the roles, saving more money. Now they'll just continue to nickel and dime TN for years to come.
Yes, we're all clearly uneducated on this topic, and any and all drug testing of welfare recipients will save tax payer money. It has to, because the preceding sentence says so.You guys understand that $5k worth of drug testing is very, very little testing, right? In fact, it clearly shows that it's only focused on people whom they strongly suspect to be abusers and is rarely done. No, I doubt you've taken the time to think that through at all, have you? :hmm:
Yes, we're all clearly uneducated on this topic, and any and all drug testing of welfare recipients will save tax payer money. It has to, because the preceding sentence says so.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/18/us/no-savings-found-in-florida-welfare-drug-tests.html?_r=0
You guys are too slow to understand this, so I'll explain it for you. $5000 is roughly 50 tests, once you factor in the test kit, lab time, and the clinic visit.
16,000 welfare applicants, 50 tests administered, 37 positives. For those who flunked math, that's a 74% success rate in detection. Oh and those people who were found to be drug abusers, at least in TN, were all offered free drug rehab, counseling, and assistance in finding employment, or they could re-apply for welfare, once they clean up.
fyi it's actually a detection rate of around 13% because there were 279 actual drug tests, not 50.
Their source is bullshit then, there's no way those tests are $18 a pop, since they're all administered in a clinic.
You can argue that out with the Tennessee Department of Human Services who supplied the info to the Tennessean:
http://www.tennessean.com/story/new...welfare-applicants-yields-positives/23085301/
I know how much testing costs, unless the people are just pissing in a Dixie cup right there in the DHS office, out in front of everyone, there's no way it's that cheap.
I know how much testing costs, unless the people are just pissing in a Dixie cup right there in the DHS office, out in front of everyone, there's no way it's that cheap.
I know how much testing costs, unless the people are just pissing in a Dixie cup right there in the DHS office, out in front of everyone, there's no way it's that cheap.
So mom smokes a joint, is honest and answers a questionnaire that flags her for testing, and doesn't get benefits. So that family has to struggle just a bit harder.
Funny how the legislators have no problems with calling for drug testing people receiving hundreds of dollars a month in tax payer money, but don't call for drug testing themselves, who receives tens/hundreds of thousands of dollars in tax payer money.
Funny.
It's because they already have a strong deterrent. Drugs aren't cheap.
The purpose of welfare drug testing was to give some government contracts to some drug testing companies. No other reason.
So mom smokes a joint, is honest and answers a questionnaire that flags her for testing, and doesn't get benefits. So that family has to struggle just a bit harder.
I'd compromise though, and be in favor of drug testing welfare recipients every month, as long as the legislators, judges and all state employees are also required to pass a monthly test, since they're receiveing substantially more tax payer money.
I'm pretty sure if you started a list here you'd find that about 95%+ of us posting here that have jobs had to submit to a pre-employment drug screen. Including people employed by the State and by the Feds... Why should politicians get a free pass...
The cost is clearly not a deterrent, or we'd have very little use of (relatively) expensive things like cocaine or heroin and so forth.
..... and your evidence for this is? Let me guess, it's one of those things you just "know".