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[NeoV]

how does the hotbot mod of cosmos work? Can you get all the info that you can get on that website during the game?

 

[torpid]

It records your information and then uploads data before each session, assuming you run WoW using the cosmos.exe. I believe it used to be able to launch the web site during the game, but that was removed at blizzard's request.

 

[dbzwukan]

Originally posted by: HostVisions

Originally posted by: NeoV
I wish you could auction off soulbound items!

At the lower levels I think there are entirely too many BoA items in the elite quests. Even if I do luck out and roll the winning number (rare), it seems the items I get I generally cannot use due to my class, and I have to sell them to a merchant for next to nothing because they are BoA.

Why do you roll on stuff that you can't use?

 

[torpid]

Originally posted by: dbzwukan

Originally posted by: HostVisions

Originally posted by: NeoV
I wish you could auction off soulbound items!

At the lower levels I think there are entirely too many BoA items in the elite quests. Even if I do luck out and roll the winning number (rare), it seems the items I get I generally cannot use due to my class, and I have to sell them to a merchant for next to nothing because they are BoA.

Why do you roll on stuff that you can't use?

By use you mean useful to your character? Or able to equip? I never understood the "stuff you can't use" logic since a warrior can use just about anything. It should be stuff that you need for your current character, if anything.

 

[bcterps]

Originally posted by: torpid

Originally posted by: dbzwukan

Originally posted by: HostVisions

Originally posted by: NeoV
I wish you could auction off soulbound items!

At the lower levels I think there are entirely too many BoA items in the elite quests. Even if I do luck out and roll the winning number (rare), it seems the items I get I generally cannot use due to my class, and I have to sell them to a merchant for next to nothing because they are BoA.

Why do you roll on stuff that you can't use?

By use you mean useful to your character? Or able to equip? I never understood the "stuff you can't use" logic since a warrior can use just about anything. It should be stuff that you need for your current character, if anything.

Which is also why the Need Before Greed option is bugged. It totally screws cloth wearers, since warriors/pallys can roll on everything cause they techincally can wear it.

 

[Velk]

Originally posted by: torpid

Originally posted by: dbzwukan

Originally posted by: HostVisions
At the lower levels I think there are entirely too many BoA items in the elite quests. Even if I do luck out and roll the winning number (rare), it seems the items I get I generally cannot use due to my class, and I have to sell them to a merchant for next to nothing because they are BoA.

Why do you roll on stuff that you can't use?

By use you mean useful to your character? Or able to equip? I never understood the "stuff you can't use" logic since a warrior can use just about anything. It should be stuff that you need for your current character, if anything.

Not being able to equip it demonstrates that it's not useful to your character.

It's a fair question - the OP explicitly states that he tries to win stuff that he has no use for and then sells them to a merchant for 'next to nothing'. The obvious question that follows this is - why ? It annoys people and gains you little.

Tip: if you random on something that you obviously have no use for, and then complain that it's bind on pickup so that you can't sell it, and the merchant will only give you 60s for it, you have just ensured that those people will never group with you again. This may seem like a minor loss, there are always plenty more where those came from right ? but eventually you are going to have an inexplicable difficulty in finding competent groups to do anything.

 

[Mr. Lennon]

can you buy a house in WoW? How about a hotel so you can rent out rooms?

 

[ArmchairAthlete]

Originally posted by: Zeppelin2282
can you buy a house in WoW? How about a hotel so you can rent out rooms?

Nope, that's not in yet but could possibly come later. I was never too wild about this anyhow, houses would really have to be instances which already makes them lose some of their cool.

 

[caivoma]

Originally posted by: Velk

Originally posted by: torpid

Originally posted by: dbzwukan

Originally posted by: HostVisions
At the lower levels I think there are entirely too many BoA items in the elite quests. Even if I do luck out and roll the winning number (rare), it seems the items I get I generally cannot use due to my class, and I have to sell them to a merchant for next to nothing because they are BoA.

Why do you roll on stuff that you can't use?

By use you mean useful to your character? Or able to equip? I never understood the "stuff you can't use" logic since a warrior can use just about anything. It should be stuff that you need for your current character, if anything.

Not being able to equip it demonstrates that it's not useful to your character.

It's a fair question - the OP explicitly states that he tries to win stuff that he has no use for and then sells them to a merchant for 'next to nothing'. The obvious question that follows this is - why ? It annoys people and gains you little.

Tip: if you random on something that you obviously have no use for, and then complain that it's bind on pickup so that you can't sell it, and the merchant will only give you 60s for it, you have just ensured that those people will never group with you again. This may seem like a minor loss, there are always plenty more where those came from right ? but eventually you are going to have an inexplicable difficulty in finding competent groups to do anything.

Have an agrument with a lv 37 druid because he rolled on a blue shoulder cloth. Dude keeps saying that the shoulder piece is an upgrade over his leather shoulder. Needless to say, never party with him again unless i have too.

 

[Mr. Lennon]

Originally posted by: ArmchairAthlete

Originally posted by: Zeppelin2282
can you buy a house in WoW? How about a hotel so you can rent out rooms?

Nope, that's not in yet but could possibly come later. I was never too wild about this anyhow, houses would really have to be instances which already makes them lose some of their cool.

If I could buy a house WoW I would throw parties and get everyone sh!tfaced. Ahhaha cyber drunks.

 

[bunker]

Originally posted by: caivoma

Have an agrument with a lv 37 druid because he rolled on a blue shoulder cloth. Dude keeps saying that the shoulder piece is an upgrade over his leather shoulder. Needless to say, never party with him again unless i have too.

It may very well be an improvement over his leather shoulder armor. I wouldn't argue with him/her over that.

 

[CVSiN]

Originally posted by: bunker

Originally posted by: caivoma

Have an agrument with a lv 37 druid because he rolled on a blue shoulder cloth. Dude keeps saying that the shoulder piece is an upgrade over his leather shoulder. Needless to say, never party with him again unless i have too.

It may very well be an improvement over his leather shoulder armor. I wouldn't argue with him/her over that.

I agree... if he is using the item what is your problem?
now if they are rolling just to deenchant or sell.. then I have a problem.. otherwise its you that is out of line here.... not him...

 

[CVSiN]

Originally posted by: torpid

Originally posted by: CVSiN

Originally posted by: torpid
Uh... in fact cosmos still has some bugs in it from the recent patch. Try auto looting a clam and you'll see what I mean. It also causes WoW to crash on me about 75% of the time when I exit, and about 33% of the time when I log out.

I'm not positive its cosmos, but I've noticed after the recent patch and cosmos update that when I first open up the social frame, it's blank even though it seems to think it has data in it.

Also, tackle box seems buggy as well. But not error message pop up buggy like the auto loot / quick loot thing. It doesn't always remember things properly, and sometimes it fails to pick up my off hand item when switching.

Let's not get into the bug that has been known for a long time where the mouse over for an item when talking to a vendor loses its sell price until you re-mouse over.

I'm not sure you understand how add ons work if you think that cosmos does not bloat WoW at all based on the logic above. A large number of the mods respond to events, and due to the nature of events in WoW, a lot of times they are called unnecessarily because the event is not specific enough.

Thats not cosmos... I dont have any of those problems..
I only get errors till i reupddate cosmos after a major patch....

launch the cosmos.exe... open options... make sure keep interface folder clean in checked... then select remove UI.. then pull down alpha from the build list then have it download it...
all problems should eb fixed...

I have done all of those. It could be that you don't have all of the same mods enabled that I do. You definitely have the thottbot problem because it has been acknowledge and not fixed yet (unless it was fixed last night). The only way to fix it is to remove thottbot entirely.

No ive got ever morem mods piggy backed on top of Cosmos and I am not getting any of the error screens at all.. it works flawless... i havent gotten those screens for a long time.. im still using a patched beta client and the same cosmos.exe I had since alpha...

works fine..
i dunno what problem you are having but its not happening to everyone i assure you...
my whole guild uses cosmos noone is having any problems except on patch days till the updated zips come out.

 

[imported_obsidian]

I used Cosmos, CTMod, and am currently using Gypsymod. Cosmos is the jack of all trades mod. A lot of things are in it. Some useful, some not. CTMod is very basic. Too basic for me personally. Gypsymod is actually pretty damn nice. Fairly basic like CTMod but much more configurable. You can move just about anything wherever you want.

However, I think I will be going back to cosmos. There was just too much in it I liked and I don't feel like manually installing all the specific addons I want.

I am aslo contemplating making a hitlist addon. Basically you would add names of the opposing faction who gank you or piss you off, and when you see them their name would be a different color or something else to distinguish them.

 

[torpid]

Maybe your guild just doesn't do things the same way I do. There are about 20 reports of the vendor problem on the cosmos site. In fact, all of the bugs except the tackle box one have been reported there with the exact same scenario. The auto loot one is also there 5-10x. Do you actually use auto loot? And by auto loot I do not mean quick loot.

 

[torpid]

Originally posted by: Velk

Originally posted by: torpid

Originally posted by: dbzwukan

Originally posted by: HostVisions
At the lower levels I think there are entirely too many BoA items in the elite quests. Even if I do luck out and roll the winning number (rare), it seems the items I get I generally cannot use due to my class, and I have to sell them to a merchant for next to nothing because they are BoA.

Why do you roll on stuff that you can't use?

By use you mean useful to your character? Or able to equip? I never understood the "stuff you can't use" logic since a warrior can use just about anything. It should be stuff that you need for your current character, if anything.

Not being able to equip it demonstrates that it's not useful to your character.

It's a fair question - the OP explicitly states that he tries to win stuff that he has no use for and then sells them to a merchant for 'next to nothing'. The obvious question that follows this is - why ? It annoys people and gains you little.

Tip: if you random on something that you obviously have no use for, and then complain that it's bind on pickup so that you can't sell it, and the merchant will only give you 60s for it, you have just ensured that those people will never group with you again. This may seem like a minor loss, there are always plenty more where those came from right ? but eventually you are going to have an inexplicable difficulty in finding competent groups to do anything.

Not being able to equip it does not mean that someone else needs it more than you do. Just being able to equip an item does not make you deserve it more. I think people don't understand this. If no one will be equipping it because it's not as good as their current item in the same slot, then I say everyone should be able to roll on it. Just because it's plate and you can use plate doesn't mean that you should be the only one to roll on it if you are going to just sell it in AH.

 

[Gurck]

I had a couple of problems with Cosmos; 1) Sometimes I'd be unable to drag & drop spells. My first spell bar is full, so I only keep one weapon buff on it - but I use different ones in different situations (solo vs. group, etc) and so like to click & drag whichever one I'll be using to the first bar. Don't tell me to just use the second bar, years of EQ have me used to doing it a certain way, and I don't mind hitting shift + num to get to other skills (just not every 5 minutes). Anyway, after a while with Cosmos, my ability to drag & drop spells would disappear, and nothing short of restarting the game would fix it 2) in the quest log, I'd be unable to open/close all quests at once most times. Occasionally it would work... but rarely. My only other real problem with it was it offered a lot of things I don't need. I don't care how far I've travelled in a play session, ETA to level, etc. If you do, great - it may be a great mod for you - I just don't, personally. My third problem has to do with the uninstall. As per instructions, I deleted the Interface folder, and while it's mostly gone, I still auto-join the cosmos chat channel and a channel for any party I join - there any way around this? Lastly, I do miss the thing telling me when my weapon buffs were wearing off. There's no buff icon, the only way to tell with the default UI is to open up your character screen & mouse-over your weapon. For a buff that only lasts 5 minutes, this gets VERY annoying fast, and Cosmos had a nice feature that displayed in full view how long it had left, and flashed when it was under 15 seconds. There any way to get *only* that mod into my UI?

 

[Quixfire]

I tested Cosmos during the beta. I found the best parts of Cosmos was brought into the retail game. I don't like using any mods like these now.

 

[CVSiN]

what problem with autoloot and vendors?
I have 0 problems with the AH or any vendor...

Im not sure what you mean about Auto loot.. i click the corpse and pick items i want and leave the rest... space is always at a premium for me with with 4 14 slot bags... 4 weps stacks of poisons/flash/blind powders
2 types of banadages 5 types of potions.... then all my leather/hides i skin... then on top of that stupid quest stuff that takes up a slot or more.....

i just dont have the room to use any kind of autoloot program beign that I only usally have 4-5 free spaces at any given time max..

so Im prolly not using this the same way you do...

and to gurk I dont use keyboard at all.. i use mouse on my 6 hotbars.. im not taking the chance of miskeying in PVP or in an instance becasue I typed 1 instead of 3 so I havent seen that bug either...

 

[torpid]

If you don't have thottbot removed from your interface folder then I am pretty sure you have the issue but haven't noticed it with regards to vendors. Mouse over an item, look at its price, sell it, then mouse over another. The sell price does not show in the tool tip. There may be more requirements for it to occur, but that is the basic pattern for me. They claimed it was fixed but so far it is not, according to others as well as me. It could be that there is a fix somewhere on a thott specific site.

You have played since alpha, consider yourself knowledgeable about WoW, read the WoW forums, and still don't know about auto loot, which is built into WoW and not part of any UI mod?? It is even mentioned in numerous patch notes. It applies to more than corpse looting to. As I mentioned, you can auto loot a clam. Hold down shift and right click.

 

[TheVrolok]

Originally posted by: CVSiN
what problem with autoloot and vendors?
I have 0 problems with the AH or any vendor...

Im not sure what you mean about Auto loot.. i click the corpse and pick items i want and leave the rest... space is always at a premium for me with with 4 14 slot bags... 4 weps stacks of poisons/flash/blind powders
2 types of banadages 5 types of potions.... then all my leather/hides i skin... then on top of that stupid quest stuff that takes up a slot or more.....

i just dont have the room to use any kind of autoloot program beign that I only usally have 4-5 free spaces at any given time max..

so Im prolly not using this the same way you do...

and to gurk I dont use keyboard at all.. i use mouse on my 6 hotbars.. im not taking the chance of miskeying in PVP or in an instance becasue I typed 1 instead of 3 so I havent seen that bug either...

Wow, you claim to be MORE effective never using the keyboard? That's interesting, never heard that one before.

 

[CVSiN]

Originally posted by: TheVrolok

Originally posted by: CVSiN
what problem with autoloot and vendors?
I have 0 problems with the AH or any vendor...

Im not sure what you mean about Auto loot.. i click the corpse and pick items i want and leave the rest... space is always at a premium for me with with 4 14 slot bags... 4 weps stacks of poisons/flash/blind powders
2 types of banadages 5 types of potions.... then all my leather/hides i skin... then on top of that stupid quest stuff that takes up a slot or more.....

i just dont have the room to use any kind of autoloot program beign that I only usally have 4-5 free spaces at any given time max..

so Im prolly not using this the same way you do...

and to gurk I dont use keyboard at all.. i use mouse on my 6 hotbars.. im not taking the chance of miskeying in PVP or in an instance becasue I typed 1 instead of 3 so I havent seen that bug either...

Wow, you claim to be MORE effective never using the keyboard? That's interesting, never heard that one before.

why would i need to use a keyboard other than to move...
all my crucial attack keys are all within 1 square inch of each other....
dont have to move mouse cursor but a twitch to get to my 2 other skills i use...
Rogue bar switchs from stealth mode to regular combat mode.. mouse stays on same button...
Cheap Shot/Sinister Strike share a button then Evis and gouge are on each side of that....
realy really easy...

I dont lose many fights as a Combat rogue.. can even usually kill equal level palys with good timing providing i do not miss the Kidney punch...

its not like WoW is a super fast moving FPS or anything.. every skill has a refresh more than enough time to move the mouse... instead of hunting in the dark for a key on the keyboard...
fvck that WSAD QE works great for FPS sucks for MMO PVP to me...

 

[CVSiN]

Originally posted by: torpid
If you don't have thottbot removed from your interface folder then I am pretty sure you have the issue but haven't noticed it with regards to vendors. Mouse over an item, look at its price, sell it, then mouse over another. The sell price does not show in the tool tip. There may be more requirements for it to occur, but that is the basic pattern for me. They claimed it was fixed but so far it is not, according to others as well as me. It could be that there is a fix somewhere on a thott specific site.

You have played since alpha, consider yourself knowledgeable about WoW, read the WoW forums, and still don't know about auto loot, which is built into WoW and not part of any UI mod?? It is even mentioned in numerous patch notes. It applies to more than corpse looting to. As I mentioned, you can auto loot a clam. Hold down shift and right click.

yes I know about that Auto loot it sucks... I dont use it.. never have
I dont liek usign my keyboard for anything other than typing and moving...
right click mouse is so much faster than holding down 2 keys to autoloot stuff I dotn even want..
worthless feature...

my idea of auto loot = right click corpse and all items that were on that corpse automatically without opening a window go to inventory... i should have to use 2 buttons...

BTW wise people stay the hell off the Official Forums and play...
only thing that happens on those froums is whining and crying and freakign stupid fvcking babies whinign that i killed thier L30 at L45 casue he was in my way...

or L60s crying becasue they powerleveld to 60 and now have nothing to do... no thanks.. I stay here and in game only.. at home where I could surf to those forums I NEVER waste my time nothing but crybabies...

 

[Gurck]

Originally posted by: TheVrolok
Wow, you claim to be MORE effective never using the keyboard? That's interesting, never heard that one before.

To each his own, what's the big deal?

 

[torpid]

Does your mouse require two hands or something? I'm just curious because you make it sound like you either have only one hand, use your left hand for some unknown possibly devious purpose while playing, or something similar. I keep my left hand on the keyboard, with easy access to shift. In fact, auto looting is invaluable when you are fishing while watching tv.

If you don't like one hand on keyboard, one on mouse, I wonder how you even are able to move around in the game.