Moscow concert attack so far 133 reported dead; ISIS claims responsibility

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HomerJS

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Didn't "Russian Propaganda" say something along the lines that Ukrainians were demons or somehow tied into black magic?

In other words, anything Russia has to say when it comes to blame is like listening to Trump. No facts needed, just say whatever outlandish shit comes to mind because to the believers there is nothing too ridiculous.

And of course Trump envies Putin, and other authoritarians like Duterte and Kim. They get to do things he wouldn't due to pesky "rules" and "laws". Sure he says some of it to inflame his hemorroidal supporters, but he really would like to be the hammer pounding down some nails. If he wins the next election, I believe there's a lot of people that need to gtfo as his thin skin will be out for blood, and he'll make sure he'll have more toadies and less "Deep State" around him that might try to stop him.

We are watching Putin and Trump mirror each other. While everyone in the country knows ISIS carried out the attack almost half of the country don’t see Putin and Trump are identical minus the dictator thing and he will have that if he wins day one.

Just make up bullshit
repeat
repeat
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Keep repeating until it sticks. Our only hope is enough independents see through it but I’m not that confident. These same independents were convinced CRT was a real thing in public schools.
 
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pmv

Lifer
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Russia has had a problem with Islamic terrorists for awhile. They dont treat their Muslim majority regions particularly well.

Yeah, I know there are long-standing conflicts there - though over the longer term Russia seems to have had an ambiguous relationship with the Islamic world (aren't some of the Chechens on Putin's team against Ukraine?). But just wondering why _now_? Seems odd to me, probably naively, that ISIS goes after Russia right at this moment, rather than the US or Israel. ISIS are team Sunni no? And quite hostile to Iran (who have been increasingly the patrons of Hamas).

So just wondering if it's of any significance that Iran seems to be increasingly aligned with Russia, as both seem to share the US as an enemy, while ISIS hates...everybody?
 

kage69

Lifer
Jul 17, 2003
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So that one guy they caught with the bandage on the right side of his head? Rumor is that's because someone in the Russian security forces cut off his ear and made him eat it.

Here's one of his colleagues being tortured almost immediately, that's a radio hooked up to his balls


 
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trenchfoot

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The world has grown so very small. Russia publishes their torture of suspects, and the world both knows of it and reacts.

NSFW: ISIS has threatened a chilling "massacre" of all "wild" Russians including Vladimir Putin for torturing four terror suspects.


It seems to me when men are treated very badly and abused by their own leaders as I believe is a Russian tradition, they're not able to give back what they get from their bosses, so these highly frustrated men living their miserable wretched lives will take out their tightly wrapped angst on their enemies for the satisfying relief it gives them. What a sad and pitiful way it is to arm their troops with the proper "fighting spirit" that's needed for them to win battles. Small wonder that what to us are war crimes, to them it's SOP.
 

Muse

Lifer
Jul 11, 2001
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Wonder if this will be the start of putin's fall. His whole mystique is "I'm a strong man and I'll protect you"
But nobody believes he'll protect them. Free discourse does not exist in Russia. People there who disagree with Putin have a target on them.
 
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Muse

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Right on queue as I predicted Republicans are blaming Biden as if ISIS K does anything based on US Presidents.

Pubs are claiming we shouldn’t have left. If we were still there today we would have lost many times over the number killed during the Afghanistan withdrawal.
It was Trump who made the deal with the Taliban that we would leave Afghanistan to them.
 

HomerJS

Lifer
Feb 6, 2002
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Nothing will deter Russia from aiming to kill more Europeans.
Did you know we were the ones behind ISIS this whole time?
Just ask Russia....

Russian intel chief says U.S., UK and Ukraine were behind Moscow shooting
In his address to Prosecutor's Office, Russian President is expected to give a glimpse of what the Kremlin's response to the terrorist attack will look like
Just like I predicted. I just ask myself what would shitheads do?

That's Why Trump and the MAGAt are so easy to predict.
 
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fskimospy

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So that one guy they caught with the bandage on the right side of his head? Rumor is that's because someone in the Russian security forces cut off his ear and made him eat it.

Here's one of his colleagues being tortured almost immediately, that's a radio hooked up to his balls


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A radio hooked up to someone’s balls wouldn’t do anything.

I’m sure he’s being tortured by these degenerates but not from a radio.
 

[DHT]Osiris

Lifer
Dec 15, 2015
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A radio hooked up to someone’s balls wouldn’t do anything.

I’m sure he’s being tortured by these degenerates but not from a radio.
I mean, old school radios had DC transformers in them didn't they? It's not gonna sear the skin off but you'll know it's there.
 

fskimospy

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I mean, old school radios had DC transformers in them didn't they? It's not gonna sear the skin off but you'll know it's there.
1) DC transformers aren’t a thing. Transformers are AC only.

2) If it’s not hooked up to a real power source it’s not going to do shit. Anything you’re powering from batteries isn’t going to do more than when you licked a 9 volt.
 
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sdifox

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A radio hooked up to someone’s balls wouldn’t do anything.

I’m sure he’s being tortured by these degenerates but not from a radio.
Russians can't afford a used matress and power anymore. I mean they used to do this.

 

[DHT]Osiris

Lifer
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1) DC transformers aren’t a thing. Transformers are AC only.

2) If it’s not hooked up to a real power source it’s not going to do shit. Anything you’re powering from batteries isn’t going to do more than when you licked a 9 volt.
Apparently I meant a rectifier. At any rate it's far more likely that they're just as incompetent as usual and just stabbed the dude in the balls with wires. Whether they imagined it would do something or not is less relevant to the humiliation and unadulterated joy of caressing his testicles I suppose.
 
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Meghan54

Lifer
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Apparently I meant a rectifier. At any rate it's far more likely that they're just as incompetent as usual and just stabbed the dude in the balls with wires. Whether they imagined it would do something or not is less relevant to the humiliation and unadulterated joy of caressing his testicles I suppose.
Wonder if it could be one of those rechargeable battery-oped “generators” as they call them.

One of my neighbors (one of my black friends) has one. Recharges his phone and Flip 5 he has. He says it has some sort of variable output in addition to the usb ports.

I’ve got a battery operated rechargeable jump start thing…Noco. 12V, 1000 amp output. I imagine that’d wake you up, esp if one of the higher output models.

Just spitballing here…🙂
 
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fskimospy

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Wonder if it could be one of those rechargeable battery-oped “generators” as they call them.

One of my neighbors (one of my black friends) has one. Recharges his phone and Flip 5 he has. He says it has some sort of variable output in addition to the usb ports.

I’ve got a battery operated rechargeable jump start thing…Noco. 12V, 1000 amp output. I imagine that’d wake you up, esp if one of the higher output models.

Just spitballing here…🙂
12 volts is nothing though - I mean again if you lick a battery and get that tingling feeling that's 9 volts so 12 is only a bit more than that. They can provide high maximum amps, but the thing that hurts you is the current flowing through your body and the body's resistance is high enough that 12 volts will only cause a small amount of current to flow. Jump starters can be dangerous because if they short out the amount of current that flows can cause runaway thermals, which can make things explode or whatever, but they aren't a shock hazard in and of themselves.

High volts/low amps = not dangerous. (think rubbing your feet on the carpet and zapping someone)
Low volts/high amps = not dangerous. (see above)
High volts/high amps = very dangerous.
 

Jaskalas

Lifer
Jun 23, 2004
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Are we pretending to know what, exactly, the Russians used based on a single still photo?
For all we know the wire was generating heat and they were burning / searing flesh.
 

fskimospy

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Are we pretending to know what, exactly, the Russians used based on a single still photo?
For all we know the wire was generating heat and they were burning / searing flesh.
I don't think it really matters anyway because we know they tortured them and it's not like if they only tortured them in a certain way it would be ok. I just rarely get a chance to talk about electronics!
 

[DHT]Osiris

Lifer
Dec 15, 2015
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12 volts is nothing though - I mean again if you lick a battery and get that tingling feeling that's 9 volts so 12 is only a bit more than that. They can provide high maximum amps, but the thing that hurts you is the current flowing through your body and the body's resistance is high enough that 12 volts will only cause a small amount of current to flow. Jump starters can be dangerous because if they short out the amount of current that flows can cause runaway thermals, which can make things explode or whatever, but they aren't a shock hazard in and of themselves.

High volts/low amps = not dangerous. (think rubbing your feet on the carpet and zapping someone)
Low volts/high amps = not dangerous. (see above)
High volts/high amps = very dangerous.
I mean, capacitors do exist. Maybe it was a custom-made testicle zapper. Just a box full of caps with a 20-bay D cell battery pack or something.
 

hal2kilo

Lifer
Feb 24, 2009
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1) DC transformers aren’t a thing. Transformers are AC only.

2) If it’s not hooked up to a real power source it’s not going to do shit. Anything you’re powering from batteries isn’t going to do more than when you licked a 9 volt.
I was going to say, even a relatively old radio uses +- 15 volts for op amps, so yea right off the DC supply might give you a good tingle. Now if they had an old tube TV with a flyback transformer the would not be fun.
 
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