This thread isn't about you and satisfying your demands so you can drive yet another thread off topic.
The killer flashed the alt right OK sign in court. The same one employed by some Trump supporters.
https://twitter.com/josh_emerson/sta...117893637?s=21
https://twitter.com/wheelswordsmith/...997837312?s=21
The murderous lump of garbage in human form behind the massacre stated a goal was to sow division and inflame Left Vs. Right division. When a terrorist tells you he is going to do something so that the reactions he expects will fulfill his agenda, most rational people from the left or the right would refuse to play along.
It also seems to be a goal of Rush Limbaugh
Limbaugh : "There's an ongoing theory that the shooter himself may in fact be a leftist who writes the manifesto and then goes out and performs the deed purposely to smear his political enemies."
Because of course he'd say something like that...
Ah the tactic. This thread has been all over the frickin place. The one central theme is the event that sparked it, but beyond that it’s been about all sorts of stuff. So yeah me responding to your pals claim that three people in here supported that politician isn’t thread derailment (was his post, or yours?).
Ah the tactic. This thread has been all over the frickin place. The one central theme is the event that sparked it, but beyond that it’s been about all sorts of stuff. So yeah me responding to your pals claim that three people in here supported that politician isn’t thread derailment (was his post, or yours?).
Ah the tactic. This thread has been all over the frickin place. The one central theme is the event that sparked it, but beyond that it’s been about all sorts of stuff. So yeah me responding to your pals claim that three people in here supported that politician isn’t thread derailment (was his post, or yours?).
Dunno. I think he probably deserved a bit worse than an egg.Anning got what he deserved there. I wonder if there will be some charges laid from that video due to excessive force to restrain the kid.
How many posts did you spend whining that white people were demonized?
Violence is not the only alternative to "civility." You're drawing a false dichotomy. I am saying civility is useless now...
I spoke a great deal more than just opposing violence. I spoke of political action.
Do you think you can lure in more voters by... being uncivil towards them?
I see building hope for a better future as the key method of disarming and of diminishing the threat Trump poses. His only strength is he got to lie to the voters and promise them a fairy tale. That is a stage and an arena for which he stood alone in 2016. There was no competition in the realm of positive ideas, in terms of appealing towards and luring in the hopeless victims of trickle down.
When I see you desire an end to civility, I see you wanting to tell those potential voters to go !@#$ themselves. Instead of trying to win an election. I see you trying to fulfill your vision of a dead America.
Fuck me that guy is a tone-deaf cvnt. Trump really knows how to trigger the worst in people.Hey Ugly, here's some allies of yours, go join them and have fun getting a rise out of people mourning the NZ murders.
The dude circle fingered the world and you looked. He’s an evil, violent....troll essentially. It wouldn’t suprise me if the reason he did it was to stir shit with people who think it truly is an alt right white power symbol. The guy seems to eat live breathe internet and his massacre is laden with internet memes. It’s twisted in bizarre.
Show me the posts in this thread where somebody supported him. Who were those three again?
Cite SPECIFICALLY where this shooter is "far right". With facts.
As I said NUMEROUS times - and no one can manage to debunk my point... Racism isn't a conservative agenda.
Everything in his text indicates he is far left you insignificant buffoon.
Keep in mind these are the same voters spouting off the vitriol I posted in the previous page. They are unreachable, gaslighted, bigoted and uneducated morons. You will never be able to change their mind with facts and rational arguments. They operate purely on dogmatic, sensationalised and demonstrably wrong views. Yes a portion of them will go through their lives and eventually end up changing camps -- how many? I would wager a tiny sliver. By then, the damage would have been done and it would have been a lost cause.
Stop trying to tolerate intolerance."They" are all the same then?
Do "They" all deserve the same fate?
That's the sentiment of the shooter.
Pro tip... groups of people are not monolithic. The outcome of different elections changes. You do not seem to understand or appreciate this so I will spell it out. Clinton was President. Then Bush. Then Obama. Then Trump. And you dare tell us it is hopeless to reach out and inspire voters? To change the outcome? To win an election?
Doesn't even have to be right wingers we reach out to and inspire. But it takes hope for a better future. It takes a tone of civility to reach out and inspire people in this way. So that you do not mis-communicate, trample sacred cows, or risk being see as threatening them or attacking them. Saying civility needs to end means fighting. Means there will be collateral damage among voters who could otherwise join you.
I view the subject as a matter of pushing people away, or reaching out to get them to join you.
I see a person telling me America is dead, and I see that they intend to push people away instead of building a better future.
Just remember, liberals have been meeting them in the middle for the last how many decades. What do you have to show for that?
"They" are all the same then?
Do "They" all deserve the same fate?
That's the sentiment of the shooter.
Pro tip... groups of people are not monolithic. The outcome of different elections changes. You do not seem to understand or appreciate this so I will spell it out. Clinton was President. Then Bush. Then Obama. Then Trump. And you dare tell us it is hopeless to reach out and inspire voters? To change the outcome? To win an election?
Doesn't even have to be right wingers we reach out to and inspire. But it takes hope for a better future. It takes a tone of civility to reach out and inspire people in this way. So that you do not mis-communicate, trample sacred cows, or risk being see as threatening them or attacking them. Saying civility needs to end means hostility. Means there will be collateral damage among voters who could otherwise join you.
I view the subject as a matter of pushing people away, or reaching out to get them to join you.
I see a person telling me America is dead, and I see that they intend to push people away instead of building a better future.
Dude, you should educate yourself. Your prose isn't even high school level. Do you read much? Do you have the capacity, the will, the ability, the self respect to review your rants before you hit the [POST REPLY] button? Check yourself out. You don't come off well.And many of you seem to live in a world where conservatives are evil fascists. Civility matters because without it we have this unsustainable political war going on and it’s eating the country apart. Unfortunately the most vocal on both sides of the aisle are the fringe and they seem to drive the ship. Working with the opposing party is frowned upon on compromise has become a four letter word. There’s no reason for that and yes both side (another four letter word it seems) are very much guilty of it.
Every politician does that. None of them say they will bring the same ole same ole. The people who voted for him were fools, every one. He's really just another politician, in fact he's more a politician than most of the people in office because his concern is getting support, getting people to his rallies and hearing cheers. He has no desire to educate himself. He purported to be different, but the irony in it all is that he's more of the same. Not just more of the same, but a heaping helping of the ignominy of which he pretended to be the antithesis. Such is the state of our nation.Trump won by taking a bold stance against normalcy. People hoped for change.
Dude, you should educate yourself. Your prose isn't even high school level. Do you read much? Do you have the capacity, the will, the ability, the self respect to review your rants before you hit the [POST REPLY] button? Check yourself out. You don't come off well.
Fuck me that guy is a tone-deaf cvnt. Trump really knows how to trigger the worst in people.
What is your solution to this real world problem? Constantly pointing out that Trump isn't the entire problem gets us nowhere.
You see, we can do something about Trump. And Trump clearly is contributing to this problem. We can't do anything about Islamophobes and other hate mongers in foreign countries. Except that some of them may well be inspired by Trump. Like this one.