mossad posing as CIA officers to recruit jihadis

[gingermeggs]

Hilter and texas had alot in common- debt- air in-superiority and the love for the JUDS'

Mohummad and texas had alot incommon- debt and isuues with nationhood, too much drinking problems too many women for one itty bittey man~ kay cerah cerah!

 

[gingermeggs]

Mohummad and texas had alot incommon- debt and isuues with nationhood, too much drinking problems too many women for one itty bittey man~ kay cerah cerah!

hell, I sound like am from south Carolina!

 

[Nebor]

Considering your hatred of anything not Israeli, you shouldn't speak on anti-*** remarks. Considering you may not even be Jewish or a Christian, I don't understand your obsession with them.

They're a totally badass underdog, surrounded by enemies, and I like the way they do business. And I'm an atheist. I love the idea of Israel, it warms my heart.

 

[Dari]

They're a totally badass underdog, surrounded by enemies, and I like the way they do business. And I'm an atheist. I love the idea of Israel, it warms my heart.

So you like a supposed ally that stabs us in the back every opportunity it gets? From killing American soldiers to selling our technology to the Chinese to undermining our interests?

 

[LiuKangBakinPie]

WTF are you talking about?

Considering you may not even be Jewish or a Christian, I don't understand your obsession with them.

You did say that right?

 

[Dari]

You did say that right?

So you took that one part and ran with it? Good for you buddy

 

[JEDIYoda]

So you like a supposed ally that stabs us in the back every opportunity it gets? From killing American soldiers to selling our technology to the Chinese to undermining our interests?

Everybody has their own opinion...deal with it!!

 

[JEDIYoda]

Anti-rape and anti-apartheid rather. You got it wrong on all accounts unsurprisingly.

It appears that you are also anti-knowing what you are talking about....

 

[LiuKangBakinPie]

So you took that one part and ran with it? Good for you buddy

no. I explained to you doesn't matter what you are in the Islam faith if you don't believe or support muhammad your not innocent and are fair game to be killed with any reason if they need one at all. Its not being pro Israeli or a other religion its against people who's believe states if your not with them and believe what they believe you are the enemy.

 

[Nebor]

So you like a supposed ally that stabs us in the back every opportunity it gets? From killing American soldiers to selling our technology to the Chinese to undermining our interests?

They're ballsy. Er, chutzpahy.

 

[Dari]

They're ballsy. Er, chutzpahy.

So you ignore their anti-American actions but like the fact that they're "ballsy"? You were a soldier once, right? Would you betry your country for Israel?

Everybody has their own opinion...deal with it!!

Not sure what your point is.

 

[Nebor]

So you ignore their anti-American actions but like the fact that they're "ballsy"? You were a soldier once, right? Would you betry your country for Israel?

Sure, why not?

 

[LiuKangBakinPie]

So you ignore their anti-American actions but like the fact that they're "ballsy"? You were a soldier once, right? Would you betry your country for Israel?



Not sure what your point is.

What Anti-American actions. Are you referring to the memo in the OT but which no one has ever seen or read?

 

[Dari]

Sure, why not?

Thanks for showing your true colors. Did you betray your country for one of those Dancing Boys in Pakistan/Afghanistan?

What Anti-American actions. Are you referring to the memo in the OT but which no one has ever seen or read?

Yes I am.

 

[Nebor]

Thanks for showing your true colors. Did you betray your country for one of those Dancing Boys in Pakistan/Afghanistan?

Chai AND blowjobs? Who could resist?

 

[LiuKangBakinPie]

Thanks for showing your true colors. Did you betray your country for one of those Dancing Boys in Pakistan/Afghanistan?



Yes I am.

Memos indicate CIA involvement in secret war against Iran

Foreign Policy magazine cites CIA memos from 2007-2008 that the Mossad recruited members of Jundallah terror group to fight a covert war against Tehran.

CIA SECRETLY FUNDING TERRORIST (AGAIN)

In the archives of America's intelligence services are a series of memos, written during the last years of President George W. Bush's administration, that describe how Israeli Mossad officers recruited operatives belonging to the terrorist group Jundallah by passing themselves off as American agents. According to two US intelligence officials, the Israelis, flush with American dollars and toting US passports, posed as CIA officers in recruiting Jundallah operatives - what is commonly referred to as a "false flag" operation.

"Its hard to say who is telling the truth in this situation. The CIA is know to tell all sorts of lies. Its an organization that can't be trusted, not even by the American people", says Mark Hubbert of Charlotte, who researched numerous CIA abuses. "The CIA even lies to Congress", he said.

Jundallah, headquartered in Iran’s Sistan van Balochistan province, is primarily concerned with protecting the ethnic Baluchis in Iran, as well as the minority Sunni population.

There is not much recruiting such people who are already fighting for their survival. Because of the different views of Islam like in Iraq they will be killed as are called hypocrites.

A hypocrite is considered to be a Muslim in name only. They are distinguished either by an unwillingness to wage holy war or by an intention to corrupt the community of believers (by befriending Christians or Jews, for example).

The Muslim terrorists who frequently kill Muslims in the name of Allah usually do so believing that their victims are Munafiqin or kafir (unbelievers). This is a part of Sharia known as takfir, in which a Muslim can be declared an apostate and then executed for their role in hindering the expansion of Islamic authority. (A true Muslim would go to paradise anyway, in which case he or she could hardly be expected to nurse a grudge amidst the orgy of sex and wine).

In addition to the murky definition of innocence, there is also the problem of distinguishing terrorism from holy war. Islamic terrorists rarely refer to themselves as terrorists, but usually say that they are holy warriors (Mujahideen, Shahid, or Fedayeen). They consider their acts to be a form of Jihad.

Holy war is something that Muhammad commanded in the Quran and Hadith. In Sura 9:29, he establishes the principle that unbelievers should be fought until they either convert to Islam or accept a state of humiliation under Islamic subjugation. This is confirmed in the Hadith by both Sahih Muslim and Bukhari.

In many places, the prophet of Islam says that Jihad is the ideal path for a Muslim, and that believers should “fight in the way of Allah.”

Even many of those Muslims who claim to be against terrorism still support the “insurgency” in Iraq, for example, and often entertain the allegation that there is a broader “war against Islam.” Although American troops in Iraq are trying to protect innocent life and help the country rebuild, Muslims around the world and in the West believe that it is legitimate for true believers to try and kill them.

Enjoying the sanction of holy war, the Mujahid thus reasons that it is permissible to attack fellow Iraqis – the ones helping the Americans - even if they are part of a democratically-elected Iraqi government. These non-combatants and combatants alike are believed to be the “Munafiqin” or "Takfir" assisting the enemy “Crusaders.”

Although I use Iraq as an example, this is the same rationale that is ultimately behind all Islamic terror, from the Philippines to Thailand. Wherever the Muslim religion is a minority, there are always radicals who believe that violence is justified in bringing Islam to dominance.

Remember A democracy is a system in which all people are judged as equals before the law, regardless of race, religion or gender. The vote of every individual counts as much as the vote of any other. The collective will of the people then determines the rules of society.

Under Islamic law, only Muslim males are entitled to full rights. The standing of a woman is often half that of a man's - sometimes even less. Non-Muslims have no standing with a Muslim. In fact, a Muslim can never be put to death for killing an unbeliever.

Tamerlane and other Muslim warriors slaughtered tens of millions of Hindus and Buddhists, and displaced or forcibly converted millions more over the last thousand years. Islamists in Somalia behead Christians. In Iran, they are jailed.

The holy texts of Islam are saturated with verses of violence and hatred toward those outside the faith, as well as the "hypocrites" (Muslims who don't act like Muslims).

As you can see there's not much motivation from them to assure their survival and not end up like the Suri's in Iraq.

I'm not saying the acts they done is right is just they are fighting with fire. Kill or be killed.

Remember the incident which forced the U.S. to place Jundallah on its Foreign Terrorist Organization designation list was an attack on the Grand Mosque in Zahedan in July 2010, causing the deaths of approximately 30 people and injuring hundreds more.

For more than 7 years they were not classed as a Foreign Terrorist Organization. Until 2010. With that suddenly reports appear that it was the Mossad dealing with terrorists posing a CIA officials. Would those reports appeared or would the Ex CIA official came forward if they were not on the Foreign Terrorist Organization designation list?

With Israels answer to all questions helping a lot. We do not deny or we do not accept responsibility. That's the answer they will give you when you asked them if they killed your dog even.

 

[Whiskey16]

WTF are you talking about?

LiuKangBakinPie's typical hate speech upon all Muslims. In that view, if one is Muslim they have chosen to be an enemy, for being culpable and associated with any violent acts committed by a Muslim.

That poster is of the Ander Breivik crowd, who promote and define this age as a western war upon Muslims, as in their twisted views, a warranted action for Muslims are invading and waging war upon the west. This forum is a regular hotbed of such common extremism and even criminal incitement to generalised violence.

 

[JEDIYoda]

LiuKangBakinPie's typical hate speech upon all Muslims. In that view, if one is Muslim they have chosen to be an enemy, for being culpable and associated with any violent acts committed by a Muslim.

Hate speech not found!! Now if we are talking about the truth...well that is all over LiukangBakinPie`s post!!

 

[LiuKangBakinPie]

LiuKangBakinPie's typical hate speech upon all Muslims. In that view, if one is Muslim they have chosen to be an enemy, for being culpable and associated with any violent acts committed by a Muslim.

That poster is of the Ander Breivik crowd, who promote and define this age as a western war upon Muslims, as in their twisted views, a warranted action for Muslims are invading and waging war upon the west. This forum is a regular hotbed of such common extremism and even criminal incitement to generalised violence.

Thats not hate speech. Trying to explain the difference between the two muslim groups. How many people knew one called the other a Hypocrite? Who really knew what their laws states. Remember Islamic law is above the countries laws unlike democracy where the countries laws reign supreme. Because I speak out against their countries laws which is Islam I am exercising hate speech?

Then I suggest you go and read those countries laws. Also minority muslim groups need no incentive to go against a regime as they are fighting for survival everyday. There are two different groups and I suggest you learn the difference. I mean Muhammad organized 65 military campaigns in the last ten years of his life and personally led 27 of them. The more power that he attained, the smaller the excuse needed to go to battle, until finally he began attacking tribes merely because they were not part of his growing empire. Thats the prophets word they are following. Explain the war between Fatima's followers and Aisha to me please. I think you would have a real hard time doing so. Saddam killing minority Muslim groups with a different prospective into Islam?

The Muslims on other part of the world have a different insight and they believes differ but they only see as a attack against Islam. Put those same people in those countries with strong Islamic laws and the different insight into Islam and I will bet most of them will be killed or they will change their ways not to be killed. Next time get your facts straight before accusing anyone of hate speech

Those terrorist group were only placed on the list in 2010. Before that they were not classed as terrorist. This looks like a CIA want to wipe their hands clean but not to piss Israel of thing so a Ex CIA no name followed by a lot of hearsay make a lot of accusations. Now Israel can't be pissed at the CIA because its a EX CIA veteran and they act suppose to be pissed of as well. But I think its common knowledge that they use MEC for such things. 12 November last year Iranian explosion with the missile?

 

[cybrsage]

They're ballsy. Er, chutzpahy.

I did laugh.

 

[Schmidteinander]

Not quite. But the vast majority of times it is rabid Jew-haters who mention the Jewish people. Its not a surprise that Jews are defensive these days by default, since non-Jews have tried to wipe them out countless times for absolutely no reason during the past two thousand years. Even Israel itself has people [arabs] who want to see them all dead...And again, for no good reason to. :/

Defensive is a sign of guilt.

I was at a diner with a Catholic priest last night that said the only place that he was afraid for his life was when he visited Jerusalem 2 years ago (he has visited Mexico/Canad/US, African nations, Asian nations, and EU nations), because of the extremist Orthodox Jews; he said that the Orthodox Jews hatred of Muslim and non Orthodox Jews are worst than Mexico drugs/gang problem.

IMHO America should cut all ties with Israel since it produce more harm than good.

 

[kylebisme]

There is not much recruiting such people who are already fighting for their survival.

There is considerable recruiting when it comes to directing attacks against specific targets, government scientists being one notable example.

Because of the different views of Islam like in Iraq they will be killed as are called hypocrites.

The word you are looking for there is heretics, not hypocrites. Also, when exactly are you suggesting this killing will take place, and how do you explain the fact that they haven't already been killed off long ago?

 

[Karl Agathon]

Defensive is a sign of guilt.

I was at a diner with a Catholic priest last night that said the only place that he was afraid for his life was when he visited Jerusalem 2 years ago (he has visited Mexico/Canad/US, African nations, Asian nations, and EU nations), because of the extremist Orthodox Jews; he said that the Orthodox Jews hatred of Muslim and non Orthodox Jews are worst than Mexico drugs/gang problem.

IMHO America should cut all ties with Israel since it produce more harm than good.

A new account...Hmmmmm Can you please provide links to where more visitors to Israel have been killed/hurt by Orthodox Jews then killed/hurt by drug gangs in Mexico? Oh, thats not to take away what the priest suposedly said to you. its just I dont believe there is any comparison.

 

[kylebisme]

He didn't claim more people have been killed/hurt, just that the hatred was more extreme. For one example of that see "Ultra-Orthodox spitting attacks on Old City clergymen becoming daily".

 

[Karl Agathon]

He didn't claim more people have been killed/hurt, just that the hatred was more extreme. For one example of that see "Ultra-Orthodox spitting attacks on Old City clergymen becoming daily".

All things and agendas (which I think this new account has) aside, thats certainly disgusting and flat out wrong! That individual ahould have been arrested and prosecuted for assult in my opinion.