mossad posing as CIA officers to recruit jihadis

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kylebisme

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It's not a matter of one individual, but rather how a lot of the Ultra-Orthodox in Israel and Palestine behave on a regular basis. You can find more examples of them engaging in behavior which is disgusting and flat out wrong here:
Jews around the world have been shocked by the story of Na'ama: the eight-year-old girl from a religious family in Beit Shemesh who was spat on, cursed and insulted by religious extremists as she made her way to school.

While Israel's leadership has condemned the violence, members of the local ultra-Orthodox community justified the attacks, claiming the child was immodestly dressed. Journalists reporting the story have been repeatedly attacked and pelted with the eggs by ultra-Orthodox Jews who are also trying to impose segregated streets in the city.
 

iGas

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A new account...Hmmmmm Can you please provide links to where more visitors to Israel have been killed/hurt by Orthodox Jews then killed/hurt by drug gangs in Mexico? Oh, thats not to take away what the priest suposedly said to you. its just I dont believe there is any comparison.
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The price of letting welfare recipients and religious extremist influent your politic.

Israelis Facing a Seismic Rift Over Role of Women

At a time when there is no progress on the Palestinian dispute, Israelis are turning inward and discovering that an issue they had neglected — the place of the ultra-Orthodox Jews — has erupted into a crisis.

The list of controversies grows weekly: Organizers of a conference last week on women’s health and Jewish law barred women from speaking from the podium, leading at least eight speakers to cancel; ultra-Orthodox men spit on an 8-year-old girl whom they deemed immodestly dressed; the chief rabbi of the air force resigned his post because the army declined to excuse ultra-Orthodox soldiers from attending events where female singers perform; protesters depicted the Jerusalem police commander as Hitler on posters because he instructed public bus lines with mixed-sex seating to drive through ultra-Orthodox neighborhoods; vandals blacked out women’s faces on Jerusalem billboards.

Public discourse in Israel is suddenly dominated by a new, high-toned Hebrew phrase, “hadarat nashim,” or the exclusion of women. The term is everywhere in recent weeks, rather like the way the phrase “male chauvinism” emerged decades ago in the United States.
 
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JEDIYoda

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Defensive is a sign of guilt.

I was at a diner with a Catholic priest last night that said the only place that he was afraid for his life was when he visited Jerusalem 2 years ago (he has visited Mexico/Canad/US, African nations, Asian nations, and EU nations), because of the extremist Orthodox Jews; he said that the Orthodox Jews hatred of Muslim and non Orthodox Jews are worst than Mexico drugs/gang problem.

IMHO America should cut all ties with Israel since it produce more harm than good.

Nice story...no corroborating evidence...3 posts..me thinks you have an agenda!!

It`s just a nice story! Myself being Jewish I can tell you the priest has no clue!!
 

Schmidteinander

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Nice story...no corroborating evidence...3 posts..me thinks you have an agenda!!

It`s just a nice story! Myself being Jewish I can tell you the priest has no clue!!
You must be right that Israel have no issue internally or externally. News agencies, and many government in the world including the US are in a collusion to destroy the God loving Hasidic Jew image.
 

cybrsage

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Defensive is a sign of guilt.

I was at a diner with a Catholic priest last night that said the only place that he was afraid for his life was when he visited Jerusalem 2 years ago (he has visited Mexico/Canad/US, African nations, Asian nations, and EU nations), because of the extremist Orthodox Jews; he said that the Orthodox Jews hatred of Muslim and non Orthodox Jews are worst than Mexico drugs/gang problem.

IMHO America should cut all ties with Israel since it produce more harm than good.

I call shens on your story. Even though there were several hundred years of the Catholic Church running pograms agains the Jews in an attempt to punish them for killing the Jesus (who obviosly is not a Jew, but rather a European...right?), the Jews have no problems with Catholics. Catholics do not attempt to follow the Great Commission and actively convert people to Christianity.

If you are not trying to convert Jews away from Judaism (or actively slaughter/discriminate against them), Jews tend to have no problem with you.

Mainstream Jews have a problem with Islam (since Islam is trying to slaughter them), Evangelicals (since they are trying to convert them), and Messianic Jews (since they view them as trying to subvert Judaism and they are trying to convert them). Catholics, not so much. In fact, a Jew could ask a Catholic priest where to find Kosher food and the Priest most likely could tell him where to find it, and might even join him there for lunch.


If your priest feared for his life, maybe he was part of the fight between the two Christian groups who fight over that holy site every year...
 

mrSHEiK124

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no. I explained to you doesn't matter what you are in the Islam faith if you don't believe or support muhammad your not innocent and are fair game to be killed with any reason if they need one at all. Its not being pro Israeli or a other religion its against people who's believe states if your not with them and believe what they believe you are the enemy.

WOW! You sure you just don't want to run around killing "Muhammadens," Orientalist? The thread-title is "mossad posing as CIA officers to recruit jihadis" - you win the anti-Muslim pro-Israel non-sequitur of the week award.

2:190 وَقَاتِلُوا فِي سَبِيلِ اللَّهِ الَّذِينَ يُقَاتِلُونَكُمْ وَلَا تَعْتَدُوا ۚ إِنَّ اللَّهَ لَا يُحِبُّ الْمُعْتَدِينَ [Sahih International] Fight in the way of Allah those who fight you but do not transgress. Indeed. Allah does not like transgressors. [Pickthall] Fight in the way of Allah against those who fight against you, but begin not hostilities. Lo! Allah loveth not aggressors.
You will always find issues in assessing an Arabic book in English. I speak Arabic. I'm not a pro or a scholar. The verb that we're commanded not to do is "ta3tadu." From it's root verb, you can derive beginning a fight, transgressing by fighting, transgressing a limit, fostering animosity, and other meanings.

60:7 عَسَى اللَّهُ أَن يَجْعَلَ بَيْنَكُمْ وَبَيْنَ الَّذِينَ عَادَيْتُم مِّنْهُم مَّوَدَّةً ۚ وَاللَّهُ قَدِيرٌ ۚ وَاللَّهُ غَفُورٌ رَّحِيمٌ Sahih International Perhaps Allah will put, between you and those to whom you have been enemies among them, affection. And Allah is competent, and Allah is Forgiving and Merciful. 60:8 لَّا يَنْهَاكُمُ اللَّهُ عَنِ الَّذِينَ لَمْ يُقَاتِلُوكُمْ فِي الدِّينِ وَلَمْ يُخْرِجُوكُم مِّن دِيَارِكُمْ أَن تَبَرُّوهُمْ وَتُقْسِطُوا إِلَيْهِمْ ۚ إِنَّ اللَّهَ يُحِبُّ الْمُقْسِطِينَ Sahih International Allah does not forbid you from those who do not fight you because of religion and do not expel you from your homes - from being righteous toward them and acting justly toward them. Indeed, Allah loves those who act justly. 60:9 إِنَّمَا يَنْهَاكُمُ اللَّهُ عَنِ الَّذِينَ قَاتَلُوكُمْ فِي الدِّينِ وَأَخْرَجُوكُم مِّن دِيَارِكُمْ وَظَاهَرُوا عَلَىٰ إِخْرَاجِكُمْ أَن تَوَلَّوْهُمْ ۚ وَمَن يَتَوَلَّهُمْ فَأُولَٰئِكَ هُمُ الظَّالِمُونَ Sahih International Allah only forbids you from those who fight you because of religion and expel you from your homes and aid in your expulsion - [forbids] that you make allies of them. And whoever makes allies of them, then it is those who are the wrongdoers.

Islam doesn't do away with the ten commandments, or the Golden Rule. How then, could it be realistically implied, that it commands us to run around killing everyone who "doesn't conform"? "There is no compulsion in religion." [2:256] Disbelief is not carte blanche for believers to run around murdering others. Anyone perpetuating that viewpoint is either 1. an ignorant Muslim who wants to kill everyone 2. an ignorant non-Muslim who wants everyone to believe all Muslims are like #1 3. someone who can willfully ignore one billion people who aren't currently on killing sprees.

The Qu'ran mentions people who try to distort its meaning.
4:50 انظُرْ كَيْفَ يَفْتَرُونَ عَلَى اللَّهِ الْكَذِبَ ۖ وَكَفَىٰ بِهِ إِثْمًا مُّبِينًا Sahih International Look how they invent about Allah untruth, and sufficient is that as a manifest sin.
6:21 وَمَنْ أَظْلَمُ مِمَّنِ افْتَرَىٰ عَلَى اللَّهِ كَذِبًا أَوْ كَذَّبَ بِآيَاتِهِ ۗ إِنَّهُ لَا يُفْلِحُ الظَّالِمُونَ Sahih International And who is more unjust than one who invents about Allah a lie or denies His verses? Indeed, the wrongdoers will not succeed.

5:32 مِنْ أَجْلِ ذَٰلِكَ كَتَبْنَا عَلَىٰ بَنِي إِسْرَائِيلَ أَنَّهُ مَن قَتَلَ نَفْسًا بِغَيْرِ نَفْسٍ أَوْ فَسَادٍ فِي الْأَرْضِ فَكَأَنَّمَا قَتَلَ النَّاسَ جَمِيعًا وَمَنْ أَحْيَاهَا فَكَأَنَّمَا أَحْيَا النَّاسَ جَمِيعًا ۚ وَلَقَدْ جَاءَتْهُمْ رُسُلُنَا بِالْبَيِّنَاتِ ثُمَّ إِنَّ كَثِيرًا مِّنْهُم بَعْدَ ذَٰلِكَ فِي الْأَرْضِ لَمُسْرِفُونَ Sahih International Because of that, We decreed upon the Children of Israel that whoever kills a soul unless for a soul or for corruption [done] in the land - it is as if he had slain mankind entirely. And whoever saves one - it is as if he had saved mankind entirely. And our messengers had certainly come to them with clear proofs. Then indeed many of them, [even] after that, throughout the land, were transgressors.

These are the kinds of verses Muslims [and others, alike] need to be reading:
31:17 يَا بُنَيَّ أَقِمِ الصَّلَاةَ وَأْمُرْ بِالْمَعْرُوفِ وَانْهَ عَنِ الْمُنكَرِ وَاصْبِرْ عَلَىٰ مَا أَصَابَكَ ۖ إِنَّ ذَٰلِكَ مِنْ عَزْمِ الْأُمُورِ Sahih International O my son, establish prayer, enjoin what is right, forbid what is wrong, and be patient over what befalls you. Indeed, [all] that is of the matters [requiring] determination. 31:18 وَلَا تُصَعِّرْ خَدَّكَ لِلنَّاسِ وَلَا تَمْشِ فِي الْأَرْضِ مَرَحًا ۖ إِنَّ اللَّهَ لَا يُحِبُّ كُلَّ مُخْتَالٍ فَخُورٍ Sahih International And do not turn your cheek [in contempt] toward people and do not walk through the earth exultantly. Indeed, Allah does not like everyone self-deluded and boastful. 31:19 وَاقْصِدْ فِي مَشْيِكَ وَاغْضُضْ مِن صَوْتِكَ ۚ إِنَّ أَنكَرَ الْأَصْوَاتِ لَصَوْتُ الْحَمِيرِ Sahih International And be moderate in your pace and lower your voice; indeed, the most disagreeable of sounds is the voice of donkeys."

41:34 وَلَا تَسْتَوِي الْحَسَنَةُ وَلَا السَّيِّئَةُ ۚ ادْفَعْ بِالَّتِي هِيَ أَحْسَنُ فَإِذَا الَّذِي بَيْنَكَ وَبَيْنَهُ عَدَاوَةٌ كَأَنَّهُ وَلِيٌّ حَمِيمٌ Sahih International And not equal are the good deed and the bad. Repel [evil] by that [deed] which is better; and thereupon the one whom between you and him is enmity [will become] as though he was a devoted friend.

The crux of the Qu'ran (& Islam) is not unchecked "infidel killing sprees." It is submission to God, humility before him, and increasing your awareness of God.
 

Nebor

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Thanks a lot fuckstick, this page is now a red flag to DoD networks and probably has AT on an FBI watchlist. How is terrorist scribbling not treated as harshly as child pornography? They're both poison to websites.
 

mrSHEiK124

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Thanks a lot fuckstick, this page is now a red flag to DoD networks and probably has AT on an FBI watchlist. How is terrorist scribbling not treated as harshly as child pornography? They're both poison to websites.

Quoted for bigotry. And irony.

The religious scripture of >1 billion is child pornography, and terrorist scribbling. Your type of hate is poison to websites.

LiuKangBakinPie, and it seems you as well, suffer from some sort of disconnect from reality, as well as lack basic logical and rhetorical skills. You didn't even read the post, did you?
 

Whiskey16

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Thank you, mrSHEIK. Unfortunately accurate citation and rationalisation has little sway upon ideological bigotry, as preconceived and rather ignorant prejudice is held as gospel.

The practice is evident -- Muslims are this society's nig*ers on AnandTech. Try not to get to uppitty..
 

airdata

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Originally Posted by Nebor
Thanks a lot fuckstick, this page is now a red flag to DoD networks and probably has AT on an FBI watchlist. How is terrorist scribbling not treated as harshly as child pornography? They're both poison to websites.
It's always fun to see people I have on my ignore list quoted for such comments. Thanks for reminding me why you're on my ignore list.

I don't like to associate with ignorant racists.
 

cybrsage

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Thank you, mrSHEIK. Unfortunately accurate citation and rationalisation has little sway upon ideological bigotry, as preconceived and rather ignorant prejudice is held as gospel.

The practice is evident -- Muslims are this society's nig*ers on AnandTech. Try not to get to uppitty..

What is a nig*er?
 

cybrsage

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The Quran is, all in all, a very nice religion. I believe it to be completely false, but the Quran itself is very good. Abrogation is a bit confusing, in that you have to find which parts at the end change the parts at the beginning...else you will be believing something which was changed in the same book, but that is a minor quibble.

It is the Hadiths which cause the most issue. If they were gone, you would see peace in the Middle East...or at least far less fighting (not sure if humans can really ever have full on peace).
 

Orignal Earl

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It's always fun to see people I have on my ignore list quoted for such comments. Thanks for reminding me why you're on my ignore list.

I don't like to associate with ignorant racists.

If you read his post, your associating with a racist? no..your on the internet dude
 
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