Most Android users say they won't consider buying iPhone because they "hate Apple."

[poofyhairguy]

I am the rare person who swings both ways- I like and use Apple stuff, just never as intended.

For example OSX is my favorite real OS. Has every app I want (Photoshop, Office, CS:Source), has Unix underpinnings that make managing my many Linux boxen easy, and thanks to features like Expose I can be more productive than on any Windows OS. The trade-off is that not a single Mac on the planet has the features I want (especially the ability to use regular video cards, DVD drives, etc.) so I had to build my own hackintosh to allow me to use the OS I want on hardware that fits my needs.

I have had an iPhone from the first month it was released. But it wasn't until jailbreaks appeared that my iPhone really met my needs (tethering, emulators, mass storage support, etc.). My wife's iPad 2 lacks this jailbreaking ability, so it sits at our house all day waiting for the time when I can hack on the functionality that will make it useful for her (in this case on-demand tether).

So for me: Apple + Hacking = Best of both worlds

The issue of course is that Apple is gung-ho against all the things I have done to make their products useful to me and that some of the products are SO locked in that no amount of hacking can make them useful. iTunes is an example of that- I hate it immensely, and I only use it to sync iDevices until I can jailbreak them to remove that dependency.

My only risk is if one day Apple actually succeeds in locking down their products (unlikely given their popularity, but whatever) I will have to move on.

 

[snikt]

I was actually considering buying an Iphone. My contract was nearing its end and I needed a phone bad because I had damaged the one I had at the time by taking it out with me to Lake Havasu, on the boat, and using it whilst a huge wave came crashing onto the boat. (Great moment BTW, haha)

I wasn't too crazy with the other phones AT&T had at the time so I started doing some research on the Iphone: sound quality, battery life, etc., etc. Then, lo and behold, I saw an article on an upcoming phone by Samsung, the Captivate, which was going to be released in a few weeks. I decided to wait and see what the Captivate had to offer. After it was released I decided to get the Captivate, and as the old saying goes, "that's all she wrote."

 

[hanoverphist]

i dont hate apple, i just dont prefer their layout for iOS as much as i prefer other OS layouts. ive used the hell out of my itouch, i know how they work. i liked my winmo interface once i got it set up the way i wanted it to be, and so far i love the layout ive gotten set up on my droid.

i still use the zune software for daily music listening on my laptop tho, it works for me. i also prefer my zune to the itouch as an mp3 player.

 

[simonizor]

I'm pretty much on the same boat as every other Apple hater.

I just don't like how seem to be so full of themselves that they're always telling us what we need/want even if no one asked for it.

I don't like how all of their products are extremely unfriendly to anyone who likes to modify things.

Steve Jobs also seems very arrogant and stuck up, which, IMO, is reflected in all of Apples products. Anything that Steve Jobs has ever said can basically be summed up in four words: "I'm better than you."

I really don't care for iTunes because I don't need software to manage my library for me; I can do it just fine, thank you. I shouldn't have to use your library management/media purchasing software just to put songs onto my iPod.

All in all, I pretty much hate Apple because they seem to think that everything that they do is perfect, and no one could possibly want anything any other way than the way that they do it.

 

[SunnyD]

I do hate apple. I hate how handcuffed you are using their platforms. I hate their overzealous nature and rabid fanboy-base. Their device designs are beginning to be antiquated (despite the technology staying pace for the most part). Their lack of innovation and their reliance on service costs irritates me.

That said, I've owned apple devices before. Usually briefly. Until I found an equivalent, better functioning device elsewhere with less restrictions.

 

[lupi]

Bought an ipod because of how much you liked itunes....wow.

 

[zerocool84]

I am the rare person who swings both ways

:hmm:

I don't like Apple products but because of work I still have to use them weekly. I get my fill of them at work.

 

[cheezy321]

Uh, why you're surprised people are talking about the topic of the thread is beyond me. The topic wasn't product comparisons between iphone and android devices; it was Most Android users say they won't consider buying iPhone because they "hate Apple."

I never said I was surprised. I found it funny because thats exactly how I see the majority of people in this forum. Its a bunch of nerd rage. Thats all it is. white noise. All the phandroids here hate apple.

It is exactly my point. It's never product comparisons. It's not down to the nitty gritty. Its always the overarching themes. Its like a political speech. 'I am going to make the world better! Free healthcare for all!' Never any specifics.

Nerd Rage. Total Nerd Rage.

All of you who say apple 'never innovates' are so dead wrong its laughable. Look at your android phone. You can thank apple for paving the way. Never innovates? The current smartphone revolution can be attributed to apple and their innovation. Same with the tablet revolution.

 

[Zen0]

I never said I was surprised. I found it funny because thats exactly how I see the majority of people in this forum. Its a bunch of nerd rage. Thats all it is. white noise. All the phandroids here hate apple.

It is exactly my point. It's never product comparisons. It's not down to the nitty gritty. Its always the overarching themes. Its like a political speech. 'I am going to make the world better! Free healthcare for all!' Never any specifics.

Nerd Rage. Total Nerd Rage.

All of you who say apple 'never innovates' are so dead wrong its laughable. Look at your android phone. You can thank apple for paving the way. Never innovates? The current smartphone revolution can be attributed to apple and their innovation. Same with the tablet revolution.

Well, it's pretty much true that Apple doesn't really innovate. They take what other companies failed miserably to do, and make it work.

I've had Smartphones long before the iPhone. It was Windows Mobile (go figure).

Tablets were never bothered to be done with a touch-only interface.

 

[zerocool84]

I never said I was surprised. I found it funny because thats exactly how I see the majority of people in this forum. Its a bunch of nerd rage. Thats all it is. white noise. All the phandroids here hate apple.

It is exactly my point. It's never product comparisons. It's not down to the nitty gritty. Its always the overarching themes. Its like a political speech. 'I am going to make the world better! Free healthcare for all!' Never any specifics.

Nerd Rage. Total Nerd Rage.

All of you who say apple 'never innovates' are so dead wrong its laughable. Look at your android phone. You can thank apple for paving the way. Never innovates? The current smartphone revolution can be attributed to apple and their innovation. Same with the tablet revolution.

Yes they did, in the beginning and hopefully most of us are thankful for that, but iPhone would still be stuck with no copy/paste, no multitasking, and a range of other omissions if it wasn't for the good competition bringing more to the table.

 

[simonizor]

Yes they did, in the beginning and hopefully most of us are thankful for that, but iPhone would still be stuck with no copy/paste, no multitasking, and a range of other omissions if it wasn't for the good competition bringing more to the table.

Yet another thing that I hate about Apple. They are content not having great features until someone else has better ones. Then they play catch up and implement those features, while acting like they came up with them in the first place.

 

[RobertPters77]

@Zen0

You can't be serious. All your arguments for apple products are the reasons most people including myself don't use them.

p.s. Unix=/=Macintosh

 

[Zen0]

@Zen0

You can't be serious. All your arguments for apple products are the reasons most people including myself don't use them.

p.s. Unix=/=Macintosh

So, why don't you use them?

 

[cheezy321]

Yet another thing that I hate about Apple. They are content not having great features until someone else has better ones. Then they play catch up and implement those features, while acting like they came up with them in the first place.

Ok, lets bring up the copy/paste argument. Yes, it should have been released initially. However, the apple version is a million times better than the android version. Sure they played catch up, but now its much much much better than the android version.

 

[Glitchny]

Ok, lets bring up the copy/paste argument. Yes, it should have been released initially. However, the apple version is a million times better than the android version. Sure they played catch up, but now its much much much better than the android version.

Quantify better. Running 2.3 the copy/paste is fine, it sucked in the earlier builds but with the new arrows to move around copy/paste on Android works fine now.

 

[senseamp]

I sure hates me some Apple too. I dunno why, their main campus is 3 blocks from my house, and I do respect their engineering and industrial design, some of my friends work there. I think it's something about their users and the media constantly fawning over them that triggers my contrarian instincts. I mean look at how much coverage of white iPhone there is. It's just color of the plastic but it gets more attention and worship than real innovations that competition has to offer. Can you imagine this for any other product? White colored car being released, stop the presses? It's just a color of the plastic. I recognize that a lot of the stuff they do is great, but when something very trivial gets hyped up as "magical" you start growing very skeptical about all the "magical" claims.

 

[JeffreyLebowski]

Personally speaking...more powerful hardware > aesthetics. Who gives a shit if it's made of pretty metal, if it runs like dog balls.

This is the enthusiast gripe with Apple products. You're not at all getting anything worth the price premium, at least from a hardware perspective.

But it looks nice and goes well with my furniture.

 

[JeffreyLebowski]

I sure hates me some Apple too. I dunno why, their main campus is 3 blocks from my house, and I do respect their engineering and industrial design, some of my friends work there. I think it's something about their users and the media constantly fawning over them that triggers my contrarian instincts. I mean look at how much coverage of white iPhone there is. It's just color of the plastic but it gets more attention and worship than real innovations that competition has to offer. Can you imagine this for any other product? White colored car being released, stop the presses? It's just a color of the plastic. I recognize that a lot of the stuff they do is great, but when something very trivial gets hyped up as "magical" you start growing very skeptical about all the "magical" claims.

Is there a constant smell of sulfer and methane in the area?

 

[cheezy321]

Quantify better. Running 2.3 the copy/paste is fine, it sucked in the earlier builds but with the new arrows to move around copy/paste on Android works fine now.

I havent used copy / paste recently on an android, but it was was pretty terrible before. Sounds like they fixed most of my gripes. Specifically the arrows.

 

[zerocool84]

Honestly though, what's the difference between someone hating Apple products because it's Apple and someone loving Apple products because it's Apple? There are more people that love Apple products just because it's Apple than there are Apple haters just because it's Apple. Really no difference to me. Just like someone not liking Android because it's not Apple. It's all the same and really, who cares. There's equal reasons to hate both and there's equal reasons to like both.

 

[Pliablemoose]

I go both ways too, posting from an iPad 2, tethered to a ThunderBolt

 

[MrX8503]

I can see why people may hate iTunes, but do people really overlook it's benefits?

With iTunes I can sync apps, music, notes, books, videos, contacts, photos, photo geotagging, and back up SMS all in one shot. AFAIK, android doesn't do this.

 

[zerocool84]

I can see why people may hate iTunes, but do people really overlook it's benefits?

With iTunes I can sync apps, music, notes, books, videos, contacts, photos, photo geotagging, and back up SMS all in one shot. AFAIK, android doesn't do this.

because needing to be tied down to a computer to use a phone or tablet sucks. Some basic wireless syncing is needed for Apple. You have to use it just to use the phone or tablet. It would be a lot better if they didn't force you to hook it up to a computer just to use it.

 

[ChAoTiCpInOy]

because needing to be tied down to a computer to use a phone or tablet sucks. Some basic wireless syncing is needed for Apple. You have to use it just to use the phone or tablet. It would be a lot better if they didn't force you to hook it up to a computer just to use it.

Get it activated in store. You never have to use iTunes except to update to the latest software. You can install apps, download music, movies, tv shows all from the iPad.

 

[KlokWyze]

those are 2 big things

the OS prior to OSX was honestly the worst thing ive ever had to use. i would willingly use WinME over it. OSX made it slightly better but it still sucked in comparison to win 2K onward. Having to use a mac in HS (was free) and then again in college (had them in labs) did most of the damage for me. they were inferior in every way to a Win based system at the time and cost 3x as much also using an OS used by 1% of the population was just stupid.

itunes is worse then real player
the ipod interface is crap. sorry the wheel sucks
its file format support and SNR sucks

the iphone interface is just a giant app list, and it doesn't support widgets, which is not as AMAZING as people say it is

all white electronics ever made are ulgy

they also design products for FORM over Function which is 100% backwards

also specifically about the iphone, until 2 months ago it only existed on the worst carrier in the US

LOL.... so true. The one thing that the iPhone really did was that slick interface + app store combo first and it really caught on, fast. The only smart phone I've ever owned was an HTC Wing that had Windows Mobile on it. I rooted it and through a slick custom ROM on it from XDA. Ran like shit though, constantly freezing, etc. Been using my, perfectly functional, $20 Samsung flip phone for the past 2 years.

Just ordered a used HTC G1 for $80 off of ebay to mess around with. We'll see.....