Most Hated Family in America

[Homerboy]

Goodboy

thats it? Don't talk down to me like I'm a dog. I would appreciate some respect.

 

[engineereeyore]

Originally posted by: Luthien
Fundamentalists refers to people that believe the bible is literally true.

I believe the Bible is literal for the most part (aside from analogies), but I'm not a fundamentalist. Does that just mean I'm in denial?

 

[Luthien]

Well Engineereeyore you are going to hell according to the fundies. So sorry for you...

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: eits
jesus... i'm not one to beat up women, but i'd beat the fvck out of her if she showed up to my friend's funeral.

Why?

Seriously, I think you should try to understand why you feel that way. Why allow someone else's ignorance, someone else's hatred, effect you like this? Why should you allow yourself to become what you fear, or what you hate?

I feel sorry for them. I feel sorry that they are filled with such hatred and such bigotry. And this hatred and bigotry has consumed their entire lives, day in and day out. Like a junkie, they are hooked. They really need to feel as well as act out upon this hatred and this bigotry, or they'd feel dead.

because it'd be my friend's funeral that they're ruining... it's as if they were flaunting the fact that my friend died, calling him a lovely human soldier loud enough for everyone to hear, and just completely tainting the entire funeral. i wouldn't stand for that bullshit and i know my friend would want their asses kicked.

by their own logic, i'd be fulfilling God's will to beat them the hell up.

 

[Luthien]

Video five when he interviews more of that young woman while they rake the yard is just amazing.

I have a sister in law just like that. Very sad.

 

[engineereeyore]

Originally posted by: Luthien
Well Engineereeyore you are going to hell according to the fundies. So sorry for you...

Well, the fundies are welcome to feel that way if they wish, but that doesn't answer the question. Either your wrong and not all people who believe literally in the Bible are fundamentalist, or you know me better than I do and I'm only in denial.

I mean, feel however you wish and make whatever claims you wish, but just don't expect everyone to accept them as fact. Because in this case, literal belief in the Bible != fundamentalist.

 

[Homerboy]

Originally posted by: engineereeyore

Originally posted by: Luthien
Well Engineereeyore you are going to hell according to the fundies. So sorry for you...

Well, the fundies are welcome to feel that way if they wish, but that doesn't answer the question. Either your wrong and not all people who believe literally in the Bible are fundamentalist, or you know me better than I do and I'm only in denial.

I mean, feel however you wish and make whatever claims you wish, but just don't expect everyone to accept them as fact. Because in this case, literal belief in the Bible != fundamentalist.

don't bother...

 

[engineereeyore]

Originally posted by: Homerboy

Originally posted by: engineereeyore

Originally posted by: Luthien
Well Engineereeyore you are going to hell according to the fundies. So sorry for you...

Well, the fundies are welcome to feel that way if they wish, but that doesn't answer the question. Either your wrong and not all people who believe literally in the Bible are fundamentalist, or you know me better than I do and I'm only in denial.

I mean, feel however you wish and make whatever claims you wish, but just don't expect everyone to accept them as fact. Because in this case, literal belief in the Bible != fundamentalist.

don't bother...

LOL, yeah, you're probably right.

 

[Homerboy]

I think the interviewer did miss an opportunity. When the little boy got hit in the head with the soda, all the church members were felling bad for him and talked negatively of the people that drove by and did it. Yet they use as a defense throughout the whole video that EVERYTHING that happens is God's will. Its "a 10 because God made it happen" They WHY did they dislike the fact that the little boy got hit in the head? I guess they would retort because THEY are the "right ones" and that bad things shouldn't happen to them.

Crack pots all around. I feel for the little kids and ache for the younger members (like the 21yr old who was the center of several interviews). You can tell there is so much more there that they just can't compute with their program brains but want to. Hopefully, like a few of the other daughters, the light bulb will go on some day, and they will get out.

 

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: eits
jesus... i'm not one to beat up women, but i'd beat the fvck out of her if she showed up to my friend's funeral.

Why?

Seriously, I think you should try to understand why you feel that way. Why allow someone else's ignorance, someone else's hatred, effect you like this? Why should you allow yourself to become what you fear, or what you hate?

I feel sorry for them. I feel sorry that they are filled with such hatred and such bigotry. And this hatred and bigotry has consumed their entire lives, day in and day out. Like a junkie, they are hooked. They really need to feel as well as act out upon this hatred and this bigotry, or they'd feel dead.

because it'd be my friend's funeral that they're ruining... it's as if they were flaunting the fact that my friend died, calling him a lovely human soldier loud enough for everyone to hear, and just completely tainting the entire funeral. i wouldn't stand for that bullshit and i know my friend would want their asses kicked.

by their own logic, i'd be fulfilling God's will to beat them the hell up.

I'm not saying that what you are feeling is unnatural, not at all.

I'm just trying to get you to realize that stooping to thier level only puts you on their level.

The ignorance and the hatred is theirs, they are the ones who consume it like a drug. Do you really want to allow them to spread their disease to your own self? I mean, you used the phrase "by their own logic," but do you want their logic to be your's as well?

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: eits
jesus... i'm not one to beat up women, but i'd beat the fvck out of her if she showed up to my friend's funeral.

Why?

Seriously, I think you should try to understand why you feel that way. Why allow someone else's ignorance, someone else's hatred, effect you like this? Why should you allow yourself to become what you fear, or what you hate?

I feel sorry for them. I feel sorry that they are filled with such hatred and such bigotry. And this hatred and bigotry has consumed their entire lives, day in and day out. Like a junkie, they are hooked. They really need to feel as well as act out upon this hatred and this bigotry, or they'd feel dead.

because it'd be my friend's funeral that they're ruining... it's as if they were flaunting the fact that my friend died, calling him a lovely human soldier loud enough for everyone to hear, and just completely tainting the entire funeral. i wouldn't stand for that bullshit and i know my friend would want their asses kicked.

by their own logic, i'd be fulfilling God's will to beat them the hell up.

I'm not saying that what you are feeling is unnatural, not at all.

I'm just trying to get you to realize that stooping to thier level only puts you on their level.

The ignorance and the hatred is theirs, they are the ones who consume it like a drug. Do you really want to allow them to spread their disease to your own self? I mean, you used the phrase "by their own logic," but do you want their logic to be your's as well?

by beating them up, i'm not stooping down to their level. to do that, i'd have to spit in the face of my friend's mom at the funeral, call my friend a i love you, kick his dad in the nuts, and take a nice huge duke on his casket and then praise jesus for giving me the opportunity to do it, thereby fulfilling God's will.

if beating the shyt out of them DID stoop me to their level, i'd gladly be there for a few minutes

no, i don't want their logic to be mine... i want them to realize that their logic is bullshyt and until something bad like this happens to them, they're not gonna see it.

i don't hate these people... i hate their message.

 

[Luthien]

Originally posted by: engineereeyore

Originally posted by: Luthien
Well Engineereeyore you are going to hell according to the fundies. So sorry for you...

Well, the fundies are welcome to feel that way if they wish, but that doesn't answer the question. Either your wrong and not all people who believe literally in the Bible are fundamentalist, or you know me better than I do and I'm only in denial.

I mean, feel however you wish and make whatever claims you wish, but just don't expect everyone to accept them as fact. Because in this case, literal belief in the Bible != fundamentalist.

Claim to be of another denomination all you want but if you hold to the bible being litterally true then you are a fundy.

Main Entry: fun·da·men·tal·ism
Pronunciation: -t&-"li-z&m
Function: noun
1 a often capitalized : a movement in 20th century Protestantism emphasizing the literally interpreted Bible as fundamental to Christian life and teaching b : the beliefs of this movement c : adherence to such beliefs
2 : a movement or attitude stressing strict and literal adherence to a set of basic principles.

You offer the same obfuscation that others here have already offered over and over. You try to hide behind definitions and statistics of the hundreds of denominations within the christian faith claiming that such and such cannot be a fundamentalist because they are of such and such denomination and this and that denomiation only makes up statistically so much of a percentage of the christian faith. Nonsense, that only demonstrates the great schism within the christian faith inclusive of fundamentalists which also fail to agree wholesale on the litteral interpretation of the bible.

 

[chuckywang]

Phelps earned a law degree from Washburn University in 1962, and founded the Phelps Chartered law firm in 1964. The first notable cases were of a civil rights nature. "I systematically brought down the Jim Crow laws of this town," he says.[9] Phelps' daughter was quoted as saying, "We took on the Jim Crow establishment, and Kansas did not take that sitting down. They used to shoot our car windows out, screaming we were ****** lovers," and that the Phelps law firm made up one-third of the state?s federal docket of civil-rights cases.[12]

Phelps took cases on behalf of African American clients alleging discrimination by school systems, and a predominately black American Legion post which had been raided by police, alleging racially-based police abuse. Phelps' law firm obtained settlements for some clients.[13] Phelps also sued then-President Ronald Reagan over Reagan's appointment of a U.S. ambassador to the Vatican, alleging this violated separation of church and state. The case was dismissed by the U.S. District court.[13] Phelps' law firm, staffed by himself and family members also represented non-white Kansans in discrimination actions against Kansas Power and Light, Southwestern Bell, and the Topeka City Attorney, and represented two female professors alleging discrimination in Kansas universities.[12]

In the 1980s Fred Phelps received awards from the Greater Kansas City Chapter of Blacks in Government and the Bonner Springs branch of the NAACP for his work on behalf of Black clients.[14]

Phelps Chartered also won one of the first reverse discrimination cases.[15]

From this Wikipedia quote, you'd think Phelps wasn't so bad.....WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED???

 

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: eits
jesus... i'm not one to beat up women, but i'd beat the fvck out of her if she showed up to my friend's funeral.

Why?

Seriously, I think you should try to understand why you feel that way. Why allow someone else's ignorance, someone else's hatred, effect you like this? Why should you allow yourself to become what you fear, or what you hate?

I feel sorry for them. I feel sorry that they are filled with such hatred and such bigotry. And this hatred and bigotry has consumed their entire lives, day in and day out. Like a junkie, they are hooked. They really need to feel as well as act out upon this hatred and this bigotry, or they'd feel dead.

because it'd be my friend's funeral that they're ruining... it's as if they were flaunting the fact that my friend died, calling him a lovely human soldier loud enough for everyone to hear, and just completely tainting the entire funeral. i wouldn't stand for that bullshit and i know my friend would want their asses kicked.

by their own logic, i'd be fulfilling God's will to beat them the hell up.

I'm not saying that what you are feeling is unnatural, not at all.

I'm just trying to get you to realize that stooping to thier level only puts you on their level.

The ignorance and the hatred is theirs, they are the ones who consume it like a drug. Do you really want to allow them to spread their disease to your own self? I mean, you used the phrase "by their own logic," but do you want their logic to be your's as well?

by beating them up, i'm not stooping down to their level. to do that, i'd have to spit in the face of my friend's mom at the funeral, call my friend a i love you, kick his dad in the nuts, and take a nice huge duke on his casket and then praise jesus for giving me the opportunity to do it, thereby fulfilling God's will.

if beating the shyt out of them DID stoop me to their level, i'd gladly be there for a few minutes

no, i don't want their logic to be mine... i want them to realize that their logic is bullshyt and until something bad like this happens to them, they're not gonna see it.

i don't hate these people... i hate their message.

Oh well.

You can lead a horse to water... :shrug:

 

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: chuckywang

Phelps earned a law degree from Washburn University in 1962, and founded the Phelps Chartered law firm in 1964. The first notable cases were of a civil rights nature. "I systematically brought down the Jim Crow laws of this town," he says.[9] Phelps' daughter was quoted as saying, "We took on the Jim Crow establishment, and Kansas did not take that sitting down. They used to shoot our car windows out, screaming we were ****** lovers," and that the Phelps law firm made up one-third of the state?s federal docket of civil-rights cases.[12]

Phelps took cases on behalf of African American clients alleging discrimination by school systems, and a predominately black American Legion post which had been raided by police, alleging racially-based police abuse. Phelps' law firm obtained settlements for some clients.[13] Phelps also sued then-President Ronald Reagan over Reagan's appointment of a U.S. ambassador to the Vatican, alleging this violated separation of church and state. The case was dismissed by the U.S. District court.[13] Phelps' law firm, staffed by himself and family members also represented non-white Kansans in discrimination actions against Kansas Power and Light, Southwestern Bell, and the Topeka City Attorney, and represented two female professors alleging discrimination in Kansas universities.[12]

In the 1980s Fred Phelps received awards from the Greater Kansas City Chapter of Blacks in Government and the Bonner Springs branch of the NAACP for his work on behalf of Black clients.[14]

Phelps Chartered also won one of the first reverse discrimination cases.[15]

From this Wikipedia quote, you'd think Phelps wasn't so bad.....WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED???

Crazy isn't it?

Hatred is a deadly disease.

 

[engineereeyore]

Originally posted by: Luthien
Claim to be of another denomination all you want but if you hold to the bible being litterally true then you are a fundy.

Main Entry: fun·da·men·tal·ism
Pronunciation: -t&-"li-z&m
Function: noun
1 a often capitalized : a movement in 20th century Protestantism emphasizing the literally interpreted Bible as fundamental to Christian life and teaching b : the beliefs of this movement c : adherence to such beliefs
2 : a movement or attitude stressing strict and literal adherence to a set of basic principles.

You offer the same obfuscation that others here have already offered over and over. You try to hide behind definitions and statistics of the hundreds of denominations within the christian faith claiming that such and such cannot be a fundamentalist because they are of such and such denomination and this and that denomiation only makes up statistically so much of a percentage of the christian faith. Nonsense, that only demonstrates the great schism within the christian faith inclusive of fundamentalists which also fail to agree wholesale on the litteral interpretation of the bible.

I believe you would accept this definition also, found on dictionary.com

1. (sometimes initial capital letter) a movement in American Protestantism that arose in the early part of the 20th century in reaction to modernism and that stresses the infallibility of the Bible not only in matters of faith and morals but also as a literal historical record, holding as essential to Christian faith belief in such doctrines as the creation of the world, the virgin birth, physical resurrection, atonement by the sacrificial death of Christ, and the Second Coming.
2. the beliefs held by those in this movement.
3. strict adherence to any set of basic ideas or principles: the fundamentalism of the extreme conservatives.

There are two problems with that definition as it applies to me. The first, as you expressed but are unwilling to accept, is the religion. Every definition I've found refers to Protestantism, therefore don't apply. The fact that you won't accept that is your problem, not mine.

The other problem is that I don't believe the Bible is infallible. The Bible is full of misinterpretations and translation errors, at least in my opinion, therefore is not infallible. Also, concerning the creation of the world, I do believe the Bible's view on it, but many would say it isn't a literal interpretation. For instance, the Bible says of each creative period that the morning and the evening where a day. This does not imply a single 24-hour period. People often refer to portions of their life as the morning and evening. Does that mean they only lived for one 24-hour period? I'm pretty sure they don't, so why would one make the assumption that this is the case here?

Does that mean I don't take the Bible to be literal? No, because the Bible doesn't specify the days as being literal 24-hour periods, but rather the beginning and end of a period of time. Therefore, I have a very big difference of opinion with fundies on that even though we both believe in literal interpretations.

By the way, this definition, as well as yours, would classify you as a fundamentalist also. You adhere to a strict and literal set of principle based upon evolution and a lack of God if I remember correctly. This would therefore make you a fundamentalist also as you said denomination is unimportant.

 

[chuckywang]

This documentarian is pretty cool....I want to see more stuff that he's done.

 

[jagec]

"These people hate God, they worship the rectum":laugh:
...
:cry;

 

[CaptainGoodnight]

Originally posted by: jagec
"These people hate God, they worship the rectum":laugh:
...
:cry;

My favorite quote was:

You're going to eat your babies!!!
-Fred Phelps

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: jagec
"These people hate God, they worship the rectum":laugh:
...
:cry;

my favorite part was when louis said right afterwards, "the rectum?! you sound insane when you say that."

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: CaptainGoodnight

Originally posted by: jagec
"These people hate God, they worship the rectum":laugh:
...
:cry;

My favorite quote was:

You're going to eat your babies!!!
-Fred Phelps

yeah, definitely... nothing tops that.

 

[Flyback]

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: chuckywang

Phelps earned a law degree from Washburn University in 1962, and founded the Phelps Chartered law firm in 1964. The first notable cases were of a civil rights nature. "I systematically brought down the Jim Crow laws of this town," he says.[9] Phelps' daughter was quoted as saying, "We took on the Jim Crow establishment, and Kansas did not take that sitting down. They used to shoot our car windows out, screaming we were ****** lovers," and that the Phelps law firm made up one-third of the state?s federal docket of civil-rights cases.[12]

Phelps took cases on behalf of African American clients alleging discrimination by school systems, and a predominately black American Legion post which had been raided by police, alleging racially-based police abuse. Phelps' law firm obtained settlements for some clients.[13] Phelps also sued then-President Ronald Reagan over Reagan's appointment of a U.S. ambassador to the Vatican, alleging this violated separation of church and state. The case was dismissed by the U.S. District court.[13] Phelps' law firm, staffed by himself and family members also represented non-white Kansans in discrimination actions against Kansas Power and Light, Southwestern Bell, and the Topeka City Attorney, and represented two female professors alleging discrimination in Kansas universities.[12]

In the 1980s Fred Phelps received awards from the Greater Kansas City Chapter of Blacks in Government and the Bonner Springs branch of the NAACP for his work on behalf of Black clients.[14]

Phelps Chartered also won one of the first reverse discrimination cases.[15]

From this Wikipedia quote, you'd think Phelps wasn't so bad.....WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED???

Crazy isn't it?

Hatred is a deadly disease.

Such is why I think it could all be a ruse. His past seems to suggest they were pretty decent at one point, even, dare I say, progressive

 

[Heller]

i watched, 5 minutes couldent watch anymore, i cant stomach this ******.

 

[ed0ggyd0gg]

Wow. America really is a free country, isn't it?

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: Heller
i watched, 5 minutes couldent watch anymore, i cant stomach this ******.

it's hilarious... try it again