Most Influential/Cutting Edge Rap Songs Ever Written

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RbSX

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Originally posted by: 49erinnc
Originally posted by: Dolorous Dave
Song: So Whatcha Want?
Artist: Beastie Boys
Reason: The distorted beat, the rhyming style, the music video, all of it was way ahead of it's time. I still listen to this song frequently and marvel at how much it's influenced the rap/rock bands of recent.

I wouldn't say it's the best, by a long shot, but that song is on my MP3 player for gym workouts.

I like 2pac's "Changes" and Nas' "If I Ruled the World". I could also make a case for some PE songs from the late 80's.

Changes.. cept it wasn't really.. written by 2pac..

Mr. Lif -- Home of the Brave
 

Majesty

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Nov 22, 1999
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Originally posted by: clamum
Originally posted by: Majesty
Some people consider rap as being music?!? Impressive!

music (n): 1 a : the science or art of ordering tones or sounds in succession, in combination, and in temporal relationships to produce a composition having unity and continuity b : vocal, instrumental, or mechanical sounds having rhythm, melody, or harmony

Yeah, it's music grandpa.

Yes, it can be music if you think that the rhythm is repeated over and over again with someone TALKING over it... And anyway, rap doesn't have rhythm, melody or harmony. But, I'll give it to you, it's a combination of some things. I call it "noises"...
 

brutal

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"White and Nerdy" definitely counts.

I like too many of them to give a best of all time.
 

clamum

Lifer
Feb 13, 2003
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Originally posted by: Majesty
Originally posted by: clamum
Originally posted by: Majesty
Some people consider rap as being music?!? Impressive!

music (n): 1 a : the science or art of ordering tones or sounds in succession, in combination, and in temporal relationships to produce a composition having unity and continuity b : vocal, instrumental, or mechanical sounds having rhythm, melody, or harmony

Yeah, it's music grandpa.

Yes, it can be music if you think that the rhythm is repeated over and over again with someone TALKING over it... And anyway, rap doesn't have rhythm, melody or harmony. But, I'll give it to you, it's a combination of some things. I call it "noises"...

It's obvious you have no clue what you're talking about. Regardless, why even post in this thread?
 

Hammerhead

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Originally posted by: Majesty
Originally posted by: clamum
Originally posted by: Majesty
Some people consider rap as being music?!? Impressive!

music (n): 1 a : the science or art of ordering tones or sounds in succession, in combination, and in temporal relationships to produce a composition having unity and continuity b : vocal, instrumental, or mechanical sounds having rhythm, melody, or harmony

Yeah, it's music grandpa.

Yes, it can be music if you think that the rhythm is repeated over and over again with someone TALKING over it... And anyway, rap doesn't have rhythm, melody or harmony. But, I'll give it to you, it's a combination of some things. I call it "noises"...

No, what you just described was Baz Luhrmann's - Everybody's Free (To Wear Sunscreen) NOT rap.
You're so clueless about this subject.
 

Majesty

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Nov 22, 1999
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Originally posted by: clamum
Originally posted by: Majesty
Originally posted by: clamum
Originally posted by: Majesty
Some people consider rap as being music?!? Impressive!

music (n): 1 a : the science or art of ordering tones or sounds in succession, in combination, and in temporal relationships to produce a composition having unity and continuity b : vocal, instrumental, or mechanical sounds having rhythm, melody, or harmony

Yeah, it's music grandpa.

Yes, it can be music if you think that the rhythm is repeated over and over again with someone TALKING over it... And anyway, rap doesn't have rhythm, melody or harmony. But, I'll give it to you, it's a combination of some things. I call it "noises"...

It's obvious you have no clue what you're talking about. Regardless, why even post in this thread?

You're right. I don't have time to waste with kiddos who doesn't know (or doesn't want to know) what music is.
 

preslove

Lifer
Sep 10, 2003
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Originally posted by: Majesty
Originally posted by: clamum
Originally posted by: Majesty
Originally posted by: clamum
Originally posted by: Majesty
Some people consider rap as being music?!? Impressive!

music (n): 1 a : the science or art of ordering tones or sounds in succession, in combination, and in temporal relationships to produce a composition having unity and continuity b : vocal, instrumental, or mechanical sounds having rhythm, melody, or harmony

Yeah, it's music grandpa.

Yes, it can be music if you think that the rhythm is repeated over and over again with someone TALKING over it... And anyway, rap doesn't have rhythm, melody or harmony. But, I'll give it to you, it's a combination of some things. I call it "noises"...

It's obvious you have no clue what you're talking about. Regardless, why even post in this thread?

You're right. I don't have time to waste with kiddos who doesn't know (or doesn't want to know) what music is.

You are an idiot troll.
 

clamum

Lifer
Feb 13, 2003
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Originally posted by: Majesty
Originally posted by: clamum
Originally posted by: Majesty
Originally posted by: clamum
Originally posted by: Majesty
Some people consider rap as being music?!? Impressive!

music (n): 1 a : the science or art of ordering tones or sounds in succession, in combination, and in temporal relationships to produce a composition having unity and continuity b : vocal, instrumental, or mechanical sounds having rhythm, melody, or harmony

Yeah, it's music grandpa.

Yes, it can be music if you think that the rhythm is repeated over and over again with someone TALKING over it... And anyway, rap doesn't have rhythm, melody or harmony. But, I'll give it to you, it's a combination of some things. I call it "noises"...

It's obvious you have no clue what you're talking about. Regardless, why even post in this thread?

You're right. I don't have time to waste with kiddos who doesn't know (or doesn't want to know) what music is.

:laugh:
 

purbeast0

No Lifer
Sep 13, 2001
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Originally posted by: Kev
this is why i'm hot
this is why i'm hot
this is why, this is why, this why i'm hot
you ain't cause you not
this is why i'm hot

hah ... that has to be one of the worst songs i've ever heard in my life in rap. that is exactly the reason i hardly listen to any new rap/hip hop now a days. it's all crap.
 

nakedfrog

No Lifer
Apr 3, 2001
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Originally posted by: Majesty
Originally posted by: clamum
Originally posted by: Majesty
Some people consider rap as being music?!? Impressive!

music (n): 1 a : the science or art of ordering tones or sounds in succession, in combination, and in temporal relationships to produce a composition having unity and continuity b : vocal, instrumental, or mechanical sounds having rhythm, melody, or harmony

Yeah, it's music grandpa.

Yes, it can be music if you think that the rhythm is repeated over and over again with someone TALKING over it... And anyway, rap doesn't have rhythm, melody or harmony. But, I'll give it to you, it's a combination of some things. I call it "noises"...

Yes, it has rhythm, and all the stuff I listen to has melody as well.
 

thecoolnessrune

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Jun 8, 2005
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Originally posted by: Kev
this is why i'm hot
this is why i'm hot
this is why, this is why, this why i'm hot
you ain't cause you not
this is why i'm hot

Most... Arrogant.... Song.... Evar! :laugh:

:music:
Imma Buy You A Drank
Theen Imma Take You Home With Me
I Got Money In The Bank
Shawty Whachu Think Bout That
Find Me In The Grey Cadillac
We In The Bed Like
Ooh Ooh Ohh, Ooh Ooh
We In The Bed Like
Ooh Ooh Ooh, Ooh Ooh
:music


or how bout

:music:
Lil' Momma got you stopping and dropping
When a man stop walking
So I told her she ain't talking about nothing, she just fronting
You can hear me from a block
And you already know what's up
With the women cause they feeling me how it rumble in the trunk

I got 50 speakers up in my trunk and I turned it up
And all the ladies loving how it be bumping
They can check it out, you can hear before you see me
I got beats up in the trunk
All the ladies want to chase me when they hear my system bump

Say Jibbs I'm about to head out to the Bruin
Holla at you about fedy, hit my celly soon as you ready
Count this cheese like a deli
They thought I was a lunatic when I pulled up to the telly
I had that candy coated chevy, showing it's grill like it's nelly
And the ladies love me why is that,
They love the way I be getting my lean on
Flip the diamond, and get a multi colored diamond bling on
That King Kong, yea I bet ya this gon' be the theme song
Cause that King Kong will have your ears ringing like a ring tone

King Kong, king, king, king, king kong, king
King Kong, king, king, king, king Kong
If you hear before you see me
If you hear before you see me
If you hear before you see me
I got king kong in the trunk
King kong, king, king, king, king Kong, King
King Kong, King, King, King, King Kong
If you hear before you see me
I got King, I got King Kong
:music: :laugh:

Music tends to fade too fast for me to recommend any particular one. I know What's Happenin by Busta Rhymes and Method man I can listen to many times and i still dont mind listening to it.
 

SoulAssassin

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Feb 1, 2001
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PE - Black Steel in the Hour of Chaos

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Steel_in_the_Hour_of_Chaos

http://youtube.com/watch?v=XjsOhoMUzho

and live with RATM: http://youtube.com/watch?v=YxdUlPwvM5Q

edit: adding explanation why per op

Unlike many rap songs (especially a lot of recent stuff) this song is actually about something. Back in the day we had story tellers like Chuck D, Slick Rick and KRS-One (Love's Gonna Get Ya would have been my #2 choice) who would actually write lyrics and when you were done listening to the song you actually knew what it was about and it wasn't rims, bitches, or money (ok, if it was slick rick maybe it was about bitches). But the point is there was thought other than mass appeal/record sales when they were writing. For the actual summary of the song I'll just copy/paste wikipedia:

The lyrics deal with a fictional story surrounding the Vietnam war. Chuck has been drafted ("I got a letter from the government, the other day / I opened and read it, it said they were suckers (later borrowed by The Pharcyde for their song 'Officer')/ they wanted me for their army or whatever"); however, he refuses to become part of the army ("I said 'never!'"). The main idea behind this is that the war is wrong, with a hint of pure indignation towards the treatment of Black people by American society ("here's a land that never gave a damn about a brother like me"). This serves to both criticize war, racism and the prison system ("4 of us packed in a cell like slaves").

Chuck is then taken to prison, which he attempts to escape from. "Black Steel" is a reference to a gun, which he needs to escape. By the end of the second verse, Chuck has taken a gun from a CO (corrections officer) who was "fallin' asleep".

With gun in hand, Chuck and the other prisoners escape "to the ghetto - no sell out". Chuck then comments on how there are 6 CO's who he "ought to put their head out". He does not, at first, but after a female tries to escape she is shot, ("Got a woman CO to call me a 'copter / She tried to get away, and I popped her"), presumably dead ("I had 6 COs, now it's 5 to go").

The final verse ends with Chuck and the rest of the prisoners on their final escape. They are confronted with shots and there is a state of chaos. Chuck makes a comment about prison and racism ("This is what I mean?an anti-****** machine"), which later became the basis for another Public Enemy song, "Anti-****** Machine" (featured on the 1990 album, Fear of a Black Planet). Finally, the S1Ws come to the rescue. The song ends with the line "53 brothers on the run, and we are gone" indicating a successful prison escape. (However, in the video for the song, this line accompanies the image of Chuck D being hung by the triumphant warden of the prison.)


 

meltdown75

Lifer
Nov 17, 2004
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Originally posted by: Majesty
Some people consider rap as being music?!? Impressive!
Post less. Lurk more.

...

A couple favourites of mine are Doggy Dogg World by Snoop Doggy Dogg and The Day The Niggaz Took Over by Tha Dogg Pound.
 

Kev

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Dec 17, 2001
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I just wrote my own rap song:

"I'll dance to anything
I'll dance to anything
I'll dance to anything
Anything, anything, anything,
Just write some bullsh*t words
And some stupid f*cking beat
And I'll dance to anything, anything, anything

 

meltdown75

Lifer
Nov 17, 2004
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Originally posted by: Kev
I just wrote my own rap song:

"I'll dance to anything
I'll dance to anything
I'll dance to anything
Anything, anything, anything,
Just write some bullsh*t words
And some stupid f*cking beat
And I'll dance to anything, anything, anything
LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!1!1!!1one
 

Dolorous Dave

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Feb 23, 2004
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Rather than picking something as subjective as the "Best" Rap song ever, let's just do most influential rap songS ever.

I do not like rap, as a rule. But all you haters really need to find something better to do with your time so we can have our discussion.
 

nakedfrog

No Lifer
Apr 3, 2001
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Originally posted by: Kev
I just wrote my own rap song:

"I'll dance to anything
I'll dance to anything
I'll dance to anything
Anything, anything, anything,
Just write some bullsh*t words
And some stupid f*cking beat
And I'll dance to anything, anything, anything

You'll dance to anything by the Communards
You'll dance to anything by Book of Love
You'll dance to anything by The Smiths
You'll dance to anything by De-peche Mode
You'll dance to anything by Public Image Limited
You'll dance to anything by Naked Truth
You'll dance to anything by any bunch of stupid Europeans who come over
here with their big hairdos bent on taking OUR money instead of giving
your cash, where it belongs, to a decent American artist like myself!
You'll dance to anything!
 

dainthomas

Lifer
Dec 7, 2004
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It's Tricky - Run DMC

Agree with OP about "Watcha Want". "Sure Shot" and "Hey Ladies" are also up there.
 
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