Most intelligent people are Atheist.

[gopunk]

Originally posted by: mooncancook

Originally posted by: gopunk

Originally posted by: mooncancook
For someone as intelligent as Einstain is, it's really possible that he's more toward an atheist view when he was young and felt like he's so powerful and invincible, but may totally changed when he got old and faced death when he felt how powerless he really was.

actually the quote above, showing that he was an atheist, or at least what many would consider to be an atheist, was from a letter about a year before his death

that's not my point. I really don't know if he is atheist or not. I'm just saying that during a lifetime of a person, the person can be atheist at one time and become religious at another time, vice versa.

yes, that's possible... i thought your point was that this could have happened to einstein (the first part, about atheist when young and religious when old)? i was just showing that it was unlikely.

And why people think science and religion are mutually exclusive? do we all need to believe in evolution to become a scientist, to be intelligent? The title of this thread is ridiculous, and you know that when you you hear even atheists think it's ridiculous.

evolution is pretty much accepted as fact by people in the biological sciences... but to the point, no i don't think science and religion (and implicitly evolution and religion) are mutually exclusive. i think it's just a generalization that gets made because arguments about religion often see people bring in science to counter some viewpoints that religious people hold.

 

[FDF12389]

Anyone ever experimented with a weegie board? Or had a first had experience with one? Supernatural things exist, so why not god too? As someone pointed out earlier we have no explanation for how the mass and energy in the world was created, in fact by applying scientific laws one could conclude that the world doesn't exist.

How about this: According to OP's study and personal theories, Intelligent people don't know how we got here, and the dumb people do, so doesn't that make the smart stupid and the stupid smart?

 

[AznMaverick]

Originally posted by: DVK916

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: DVK916
Guess it hard to talk about this on ATOT since most people here are sky fairy worshipers.

No, it's just that we don't like you. You are a troll...not quite JLGatsby quality yet but I think that's because you are still in HS.

1. I am not a troll
2. I am not in HS


I am an open minded person thus an atheist, who can't stand why close minded people thus theist can't look at things logically and see that god doesn't exist.

He does man.

 

[mercanucaribe]

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: Nebor
The people who believe a talking man in the sky created the universe aren't the best thinkers the world has ever known? Big suprise.

Religion is marketed to the stupid and weak in spirit, so that's what they get.

As much as I dislike religion, some of the best/influential phlospheres were religious.

Philosophy is hogwash, so that makes sense. We are talking about scientists and other truly intelligent people.

 

[mercanucaribe]

Originally posted by: Random Variable
I would guess that the most intelligent people are agnostics, not atheists.

That's ridiculous. By that logic, it's more intelligent to say that Santa Claus may or may not exist than to say that he does not exist.

 

[FDF12389]

Originally posted by: mercanucaribe

Originally posted by: Random Variable
I would guess that the most intelligent people are agnostics, not atheists.

That's ridiculous. By that logic, it's more intelligent to say that Santa Claus may or may not exist than to say that he does not exist.

Do you know where the world came from? NO
Do I know where the presents under the tree came from? YES (it wasnt santa)

MY BRAIN>YOUR EMPTY HEAD

 

[mercanucaribe]

Originally posted by: FDF12389

Originally posted by: mercanucaribe

Originally posted by: Random Variable
I would guess that the most intelligent people are agnostics, not atheists.

That's ridiculous. By that logic, it's more intelligent to say that Santa Claus may or may not exist than to say that he does not exist.

Do you know where the world came from? NO
Do I know where the presents under the tree came from? YES (it wasnt santa)

MY BRAIN>YOUR EMPTY HEAD

I know where the world came from. It was formed out of the particles left after the sun coalesced in the center of the solar system. Minerology studies on material from the moon and mars supports that hypothesis.

Or wait. I CREATED THE WORLD, and you're stupid if you say that isn't true, because you simply don't know.

 

[FDF12389]

Originally posted by: mercanucaribe

Originally posted by: FDF12389

Originally posted by: mercanucaribe

Originally posted by: Random Variable
I would guess that the most intelligent people are agnostics, not atheists.

That's ridiculous. By that logic, it's more intelligent to say that Santa Claus may or may not exist than to say that he does not exist.

Do you know where the world came from? NO
Do I know where the presents under the tree came from? YES (it wasnt santa)

MY BRAIN>YOUR EMPTY HEAD

I know where the world came from. It was formed out of the particles left after the sun coalesced in the center of the solar system. Minerology studies on material from the moon and mars supports that hypothesis.

Or wait. I CREATED THE WORLD, and you're stupid if you say that isn't true, because you simply don't know.

http://www.cartage.org.lb/en/themes/Sci...awofConservation/LawofConservation.htm

Ok, you created the world, read that article and then tell me how you got here.

 

[thirdlegstump]

As much as I'd like to believe this statement, some of the dumbest people I know (friends and relatives in the fashion industry......) are atheists.

 

[aidanjm]

Originally posted by: FDF12389
How about this: According to OP's study and personal theories, Intelligent people don't know how we got here, and the dumb people do, so doesn't that make the smart stupid and the stupid smart?

No. Dumb people THINK they know how we got here. Intelligent people acknowledge that we just don't have a full answer to the question of how we got here. Intelligent people live with the uncertainty, because they would rather tolerate uncertainty than settle for an explanation that is utterly bogus. Whereas dumb people grasp at straws, and are too stupid to realize what a croc of sh1t they are being fed by their priest/ witch/ wizard/ pope/ whatever.

 

[Babbles]

Originally posted by: mercanucaribe

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: Nebor
The people who believe a talking man in the sky created the universe aren't the best thinkers the world has ever known? Big suprise.

Religion is marketed to the stupid and weak in spirit, so that's what they get.

As much as I dislike religion, some of the best/influential phlospheres were religious.

Philosophy is hogwash, so that makes sense. We are talking about scientists and other truly intelligent people.

It's only hogwash for those people that do not understand it. Since "we are talking about scientists" then as a card carrying scientist I think you totally don't understand the world around you.
There is far, far more to the world then the simple minerals left over from the formation of the solar system/galaxy/universe/back of a turtle's shell.

 

[Atheus]

Studies show more than 50% of statistics are made up, including this one.

 

[JDrake]

Originally posted by: Atheus
Studies show more than 50% of statistics are made up, including this one.

I thought it was 97%?

 

[FDF12389]

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: FDF12389
How about this: According to OP's study and personal theories, Intelligent people don't know how we got here, and the dumb people do, so doesn't that make the smart stupid and the stupid smart?

No. Dumb people THINK they know how we got here. Intelligent people acknowledge that we just don't have a full answer to the question of how we got here. Intelligent people live with the uncertainty, because they would rather tolerate uncertainty than settle for an explanation that is utterly bogus. Whereas dumb people grasp at straws, and are too stupid to realize what a croc of sh1t they are being fed by their priest/ witch/ wizard/ pope/ whatever.

I was just being sarcstic with that one. But I do follow the morales in the bible. Why? I find that there is alot of wisdom in the bible. I do beleive god exist, only because I personally know that super natural things exist, so why not god? I am not close minded, prove me wrong, and I will change my beleif.

 

[mooncancook]

I know where the world came from. It was formed out of the particles left after the sun coalesced in the center of the solar system. Minerology studies on material from the moon and mars supports that hypothesis.

Or wait. I CREATED THE WORLD, and you're stupid if you say that isn't true, because you simply don't know.

The world is not just the earth, it's universe. The paticles you spoke of must come from something somewhere, and so is the sun.

You have not created the world. As a matter of fact, humans has never created something out of nothing. We can maiupulate existing things, but we cannot create. Note that everything is given to us, and we just made use of whatever is given. Humans can disprove the existence of God when they can create something out of nothing, or create life out of molecules, because by then we can claim ourself god.

 

[Legendary]

This thread makes me ashamed to be an atheist.

 

[Cooler]

god just likes atheists better so they are more intelligent.

 

[moshquerade]

atheists that say, "oh my god" crack me up.

 

[Ilmater]

So you're saying that men that test theories with evidence and experiments their entire lives reject a notion that cannot be tested or studied?

If this in any way shocks or amazes anyone, you're officially an idiot.

BTW, I'm an... atheist or agnostic... somewhere inbetween them because I just don't know and don't care.

 

[Ilmater]

Originally posted by: FDF12389
Anyone ever experimented with a weegie board? Or had a first had experience with one? Supernatural things exist, so why not god too? As someone pointed out earlier we have no explanation for how the mass and energy in the world was created, in fact by applying scientific laws one could conclude that the world doesn't exist.

How about this: According to OP's study and personal theories, Intelligent people don't know how we got here, and the dumb people do, so doesn't that make the smart stupid and the stupid smart?

I'm sorry, I must have something in my eye. Did you just use a Ouija board as justification for a god?

Man, THIS THREAD DELIVERS!!! :thumbsup:

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: Babbles

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: Nebor
The people who believe a talking man in the sky created the universe aren't the best thinkers the world has ever known? Big suprise.

Religion is marketed to the stupid and weak in spirit, so that's what they get.

As much as I dislike religion, some of the best/influential phlospheres were religious.

You are absolutely correct. Also I usually find it somewhat interesting, and ironically so, that those who proclaim the "stupidity" of religion loudly are usually more close-minded than the religious people they attempt to attack.

Nebor's clueless statement is a clear example of this sort of illogical thinking.

I'm not close minded in the least. Let people believe whatever they want to believe. So long as no one forces their beliefs on others, everyone's cool.

That doesn't mean that I believe what they believe, or that I have to think well of them.

The fact is, as the world population grows, religion is shrinking, more and more. Religion in the UK nears collapse, and it won't be long until we see a similar fate in America. God is dying, I just wish he wouldn't linger.

 

[raildogg]

STFU, I could care less about your faith or lack thereof in god. Shut up either way. I don't care if you're an atheist. Stop mocking religious people and vice versa.

This study, like most others are pathetic, just like polls. Also, I have found in my "study" that atheists tend to be the bigger asshol*s.

 

[FDF12389]

Originally posted by: Ilmater

Originally posted by: FDF12389
Anyone ever experimented with a weegie board? Or had a first had experience with one? Supernatural things exist, so why not god too? As someone pointed out earlier we have no explanation for how the mass and energy in the world was created, in fact by applying scientific laws one could conclude that the world doesn't exist.

How about this: According to OP's study and personal theories, Intelligent people don't know how we got here, and the dumb people do, so doesn't that make the smart stupid and the stupid smart?

I'm sorry, I must have something in my eye. Did you just use a Ouija board as justification for a god?

Man, THIS THREAD DELIVERS!!! :thumbsup:

lol, not for a justification of god, for a justification of supernatural things.

 

[RiDE]

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: Babbles

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: Nebor
The people who believe a talking man in the sky created the universe aren't the best thinkers the world has ever known? Big suprise.

Religion is marketed to the stupid and weak in spirit, so that's what they get.

As much as I dislike religion, some of the best/influential phlospheres were religious.

You are absolutely correct. Also I usually find it somewhat interesting, and ironically so, that those who proclaim the "stupidity" of religion loudly are usually more close-minded than the religious people they attempt to attack.

Nebor's clueless statement is a clear example of this sort of illogical thinking.

I'm not close minded in the least. Let people believe whatever they want to believe. So long as no one forces their beliefs on others, everyone's cool.

That doesn't mean that I believe what they believe, or that I have to think well of them.

Well your insult is clearly offensive and disrepectful and I don't see that as you letting people believe what they want to believe.

Don't ask for them to leave you alone if you're going to ridicule them.

It would be pretty unfair of me to ask Atheists to mind their own business yet call them stupid and weak at the same time wouldn't it?

:roll:

 

[JujuFish]

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: FDF12389
How about this: According to OP's study and personal theories, Intelligent people don't know how we got here, and the dumb people do, so doesn't that make the smart stupid and the stupid smart?

No. Dumb people THINK they know how we got here. Intelligent people acknowledge that we just don't have a full answer to the question of how we got here. Intelligent people live with the uncertainty, because they would rather tolerate uncertainty than settle for an explanation that is utterly bogus. Whereas dumb people grasp at straws, and are too stupid to realize what a croc of sh1t they are being fed by their priest/ witch/ wizard/ pope/ whatever.

:roll:

Get off your high horse. I'm sorry you don't like what Christians believe because it goes against your sexual lifestyle. One would think that of most people, you would have learned to be open minded. Obviously that is not the case, so please take your insults elsewhere.

 

[Babbles]

Originally posted by: Nebor
The people who believe a talking man in the sky created the universe aren't the best thinkers the world has ever known? Big suprise.

Religion is marketed to the stupid and weak in spirit, so that's what they get.

Originally posted by: Nebor
I'm not close minded in the least.

Obviously.

Originally posted by: Nebor
Let people believe whatever they want to believe. So long as no one forces their beliefs on others, everyone's cool.

Stupid and weak, but cool. Right?
Oh yeah, and not the best thinkers, eh? Damn you Newton.