Most overrated band ever?

[zinfamous]

Pearl Jam.


THEY SUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!

lol.

I loved those first two albums. I stopped caring after that, though.

 

[KeithTalent]

Honestly, I do like The Doors; it's just that Jim Morrison is massively overrated. He became too big (for no good reason) for that band. I like them together, but I think only a few CCR tracks destroy The Doors' entire catalogue.

there is a bit of injustice concerning the uneven levels of praise heaped on the Doors vs CCR. (I compare them because their songs are more or less the same across the board, and they both have somewhat larger-than-life front men)

I've always hated The Doors because they denounced the bass guitar. D:

I love the bass guitar!

KT

Edit: sweet new avatar by the way. :thumbsup:

 

[SP33Demon]

See I disagree with that. I would say the Cavs team from this past year was overrated, even though they have the best player in the world. Having one amazing performer does not preclude a band from being overrated.

Sphinx is more intelligent than I am, so can probably argue it better, but form a personal perspective, never did I listen to Zeppelin, either as a kid or an adult and think to myself how amazing the drumming was, while as with other bands I do. For example, one of the first times I ever heard the Melvins, the drummer (Dale Crover is one of my favourites) stood out, same with Dream Theater, but that has never happened with Zeppelin.

KT

I don't see how the Cavs could sell out all of their games, make it to the Eastern Conf Finals and yet still be overrated. They were beat by a better team but also knocked off some pretty dam good teams on the way there. The "most overrated" should be reserved for a hyped team, band, person, etc who was expected to do something but never did anything at all. For example, draft picks that never lived up to the hype (see: Brian Bosworth). Saying the 2010 Cavs or John Bonham are "overrated" are like complaining that you won a Ferrari instead of a Lambo.

It should be obvious that Bonham's drumming never stood out to you because he pioneered all of the "impressive" more technical drumming that you hear today. He is the godfather of rock n roll drumming and best of his era (before yours). Akin to being impressed by Micheal Jordan's style of play but not Oscar Robertson, or Cousy's. They were still arguably the best of their era which puts them into the debate of best of all time. Whereas my debate is that anything touched by an all time great cannot possibly qualify for the most overrated because they actually did something vs hyped people who don't.

 

[Homerboy]

KT and SP33, I tell my 8 year old ALL THE TIME there is simply NO WAY to qualify somebody as "the best" at anything. There are different eras, styles, whatever. You can certainly say "one of the best"... but never "the best".

 

[BladeVenom]

The Beatles, the original boy band.

 

[Homerboy]

The Beatles, the original boy band.

Uhh what?
They weren't even close to a "Boy Band"
1) they weren't fabricated
2) they played their instraments
3) they wrote the majority of their own songs
4) they (to some extent) invented a whole new style of music

 

[SP33Demon]

KT and SP33, I tell my 8 year old ALL THE TIME there is simply NO WAY to qualify somebody as "the best" at anything. There are different eras, styles, whatever. You can certainly say "one of the best"... but never "the best".

You can be the best in your era, and especially in sports if you can amass all time greatest records then yes, you are the best of the best. Wayne Gretzky was the best of his era and noone disputes he's the best ever, even the modern era.

Music is harder to judge but it's still pretty easy to at least take the best from certain eras and rank them. So "one of the best" for music, yep.

 

[SP33Demon]

Dave Matthews Band haters, check out this video of Tim Reynolds. Man, what an overrated guitar player! /chuckle

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3loMJQJBBE

 

[Homerboy]

You can be the best in your era, and especially in sports if you can amass all time greatest records then yes, you are the best of the best. Wayne Gretzky was the best of his era and noone disputes he's the best ever, even the modern era.

Music is harder to judge but it's still pretty easy to at least take the best from certain eras and rank them. So "one of the best" for music, yep.

Oh yes, in an era you can (usually) define who was "the best". But never of "all time".

Music is near impossible though. "Music" is WAY to broad of a scope. You wouldn't say ANYONE was the best "athlete" of any era would you? (ok Jim Thorpe). Just like you couldn't say somebody was "the best" drummer of an era. Of what discipline/genre?

 

[KeithTalent]

I agree, it is next to impossible to quantify those things for music (it's also difficult to do for sports, but for different reasons).

Still fun to argue about it! :awe:

KT

 

[zinfamous]

I've always hated The Doors because they denounced the bass guitar. D:

I love the bass guitar!

KT

Edit: sweet new avatar by the way. :thumbsup:

D: I didn't even know that! (and I briefly played bass)

the avatar is for the fedora crew. Not the original Plainview that I sometimes use, but we'll just see how long it lasts...

 

[zinfamous]

I don't see how the Cavs could sell out all of their games, make it to the Eastern Conf Finals and yet still be overrated. They were beat by a better team but also knocked off some pretty dam good teams on the way there. The "most overrated" should be reserved for a hyped team, band, person, etc who was expected to do something but never did anything at all. For example, draft picks that never lived up to the hype (see: Brian Bosworth). Saying the 2010 Cavs or John Bonham are "overrated" are like complaining that you won a Ferrari instead of a Lambo.

It should be obvious that Bonham's drumming never stood out to you because he pioneered all of the "impressive" more technical drumming that you hear today. He is the godfather of rock n roll drumming and best of his era (before yours). Akin to being impressed by Micheal Jordan's style of play but not Oscar Robertson, or Cousy's. They were still arguably the best of their era which puts them into the debate of best of all time. Whereas my debate is that anything touched by an all time great cannot possibly qualify for the most overrated because they actually did something vs hyped people who don't.

wtf would complain about winning a Ferrari over a lambo? Lambos are the super gay. I'd certainly complain about winning the lambo over a Ferrari, though.

 

[zinfamous]

The Beatles, the original boy band.

lolwut?

 

[joebloggs10]

Source List

Since y'all are just tilting at windmills w/o a frame of reference, I submit this list of the Top 100 Rock Bands of All Time as compiled by Audio/Video Revolution. Yes, this will leave off some possibilities, since it only includes "rock". Luckily that's mitigated by the fact that most non-rock acts aren't "bands" but instead are individuals with musical backup.

So, working off this list ans using a common definition of "overrated" (to rate or appraise too highly) I offer these bands as most egregiously overrated:

1. Led Zeppelin- good, but definitely not #1
4. Jimi Hendrix- good, but not top-5
7. The Eagles- not top-10
34. The Grateful Dead- shouldn't be in the top-50
43. Dixie Chicks- WTF
68. Primus- very limited appeal
98. Coldplay- serious

These bands I would rate as most egregiously underrated:
70. Black Sabbath- lots of great stuff, the don't specify Ozzie or RJD Sabbath, certainly better than many of the next 20-30 groups rated above it
37. Boston- Great band to listen to while driving
26. AC/DC- an album of their worst stuff is better than a greatest hits album of many of the groups on the list

 

[zinfamous]

Source List

Since y'all are just tilting at windmills w/o a frame of reference, I submit this list of the Top 100 Rock Bands of All Time as compiled by Audio/Video Revolution. Yes, this will leave off some possibilities, since it only includes "rock". Luckily that's mitigated by the fact that most non-rock acts aren't "bands" but instead are individuals with musical backup.

So, working off this list ans using a common definition of "overrated" (to rate or appraise too highly) I offer these bands as most egregiously overrated:


34. The Grateful Dead- shouldn't be in the top-50

These bands I would rate as most egregiously underrated:
70. Black Sabbath- lots of great stuff, the don't specify Ozzie or RJD Sabbath, certainly better than many of the next 20-30 groups rated above it

you sir, are ignorant. GD probably deserve to be a good bit higher. You simply can't name a band with more diverse influences, styles, and massive appeal.

I get why Black Sabbath should be much higher; but certainly not above The Dead. That is just silly.

 

[McLovin]

I'm just gonna go ahead and say I think that all of the people in this thread who said Metallica is over-rated, should really learn how to properly spell the band's name. At least then you'd have some credibility to critique them. xD


I'd have to say Grateful Dead is on the top of my list.

 

[Gibson486]

Source List

Since y'all are just tilting at windmills w/o a frame of reference, I submit this list of the Top 100 Rock Bands of All Time as compiled by Audio/Video Revolution. Yes, this will leave off some possibilities, since it only includes "rock". Luckily that's mitigated by the fact that most non-rock acts aren't "bands" but instead are individuals with musical backup.

So, working off this list ans using a common definition of "overrated" (to rate or appraise too highly) I offer these bands as most egregiously overrated:

1. Led Zeppelin- good, but definitely not #1
4. Jimi Hendrix- good, but not top-5
7. The Eagles- not top-10
34. The Grateful Dead- shouldn't be in the top-50
43. Dixie Chicks- WTF
68. Primus- very limited appeal
98. Coldplay- serious

These bands I would rate as most egregiously underrated:
70. Black Sabbath- lots of great stuff, the don't specify Ozzie or RJD Sabbath, certainly better than many of the next 20-30 groups rated above it
37. Boston- Great band to listen to while driving
26. AC/DC- an album of their worst stuff is better than a greatest hits album of many of the groups on the list

so, you go on to say Primus is overrated, but then you say it has limited appeal?

 

[schneiderguy]

Opeth and Tool

 

[joebloggs10]

so, you go on to say Primus is overrated, but then you say it has limited appeal?

Yes........

They're ranked #68. They have very limited appeal. They should not be ranked that high based on their limited appeal. They are overrated.

 

[SP33Demon]

Well at least you based it off a list. One that has Duran Duran, Dixie Chicks, Beastie Boys, Thievery Corporation, The Roots, Coldplay, and Black Eyed Peas as "Rock".

Not sure I'd rank LZ as #1 either. Best for me would be Iron Maiden, Metallica, Allman Brothers, Rush, Queen, Black Sabbath (+ Heaven & Hell w/ RJD). RHCP, Aerosmith, and GnR getting honorable mention.

 

[BurnItDwn]

Opeth and Tool

Both very underrated.....

 

[Gibson486]

Both very underrated.....

Tool is not underrated. They are where they should be.

 

[Possessed Freak]

Just for Billy: Metaleka is my vote.

 

[Gibson486]

Yes........

They're ranked #68. They have very limited appeal. They should not be ranked that high based on their limited appeal. They are overrated.

What does appeal have to do with it? Also, if they have limited appeal, how can they be overrated? Half the people out there never even heard of the band.

 

[Flipped Gazelle]

Both very underrated.....

Tool is pretty popular, and a lot of folks like 'em.

I agree that Opeth is underrated.