Most overrated college football teams this year

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BigPoppa

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Originally posted by: Mill
USC is probably the most overrated team of the past decade.

And before everyone jumps on Mill:

Is USC a great team? Definately
Are they overrated? Oh hell yes.
 

TheBDB

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Originally posted by: jlbenedict
You left out a team:
TEXAS..

Their schedule was ridiculous.. they squeeked by a good Ohio St. team early in the season. The Big 12 conference is weak from top to bottom, except for a "good" Texas team. Even Texas Tech was overrated.. Sure they can light up the scoreboard, but they cannot stop anyone..

USC will show Texas how much of a team they really are, and bring them back down to reality.

hahahahahahahaha
 

Ackmed

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Originally posted by: Mill
USC is probably the most overrated team of the past decade.


I agree to a point. If they played in a good conference, like the SEC, there would be zero chance they would have been undefeated for so long. SEC just has too good of defenses.

Also to the people who claim LSU is overrated. You really dont have a clue. They have what is probably the best defense in all of NCAA football. Ranking in the top 5 in all major stats. Yeah they had some close games, and could have easily lost 2-3 more games. So could any team. USC could have easily lost 3 games this year. LSU got a two week late start, because of Katrina. They never got a bye week, like most other teams that got two. So they have played every single week back to back to back and not having their home statium for the whole season either.

Originally posted by: sciencewhiz
Originally posted by: Whisper
Honestly, in that system, the strength of USC's schedule is then heavily-overrated. LSU has played better teams.

I challenge you to find an unbiased system in which LSU's schedule is rated better then USC's. The BCS's old SOS calculation has LSU 59th and USC 30th.

Lets see, LSU has played (at the time of the game) the #15, #10, #11, #16, #4, and #13 team.

USC has played (again at the time of the game) the #24, #14, #9, #16, and #11 team.

LSU has played one more ranked team, while playing in a MUCH tougher conference. USC would not last in the SEC, with their defenses. USC and LSU both played AZ St., both being very close games. Not that its a direct link, but thats pretty even playing the same team.

 

cubby1223

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Okay, umm, I disagree with a lot of the statements made. Like Notre Dame - their losses were to Michigan State & USC. Against State they had a bad half, came back from 21 points down in the 3rd only to lose in overtime. And they took #1 USC down to the final seconds, lost only by virtue of a very lucky USC fumble at the 1 yard line.

So instead answer this question - if there are so many over-rated teams in the top 10, who then should take their place?
 

NeoV

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Will you idiots stop saying that USC is overrated? Come on - you may not like them, but don't sit here and tell us they are overrated - you are looking at the best offense in college football in the last 50 years. They are not as strong defensively as they have been in years' past - but then again they have put some serious hurt on teams, who end up having to try and throw a ton to catch up. Their defense is forcing a ton of turnovers though, which can't be ignored.

LSU is very good - like a few others have said, the ASU game was right after Katrina, and it was a nice win for them. LSU, Auburn, Georgia, Florida, and Alabama are better than anyone in the Pac 10 other than USC, and I'd even say that Tennesse and S.Carolina are as good as anyone else in the Pac 10 other than USC. SEC is a monster football conference, period.

Just because a team doesn't play a great schedule doesn't mean they are overrated - they can only play the games on their schedule.
 

Whisper

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Don't get me wrong, USC is a great team. I just don't feel that they're the best in the nation. Most likely in the top 5, but not the best.
 

her209

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Originally posted by: Ackmed
Lets see, LSU has played (at the time of the game) the #15, #10, #11, #16, #4, and #13 team.

USC has played (again at the time of the game) the #24, #14, #9, #16, and #11 team.
Its one thing to play them. Its another to play them and win.

And using that logic, Texas has only played 3 ranked teams. Does that mean LSU is better than them too?
 

ntdz

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Originally posted by: Mill
USC is probably the most overrated team of the past decade.

...That's why they are going to win a 3rd straight national title and their 35th straight win. No other team has ever won 3 straight national titles...but hey, they are overrated.

Oh, and they are the first college football team in history to finish in the top 4 in passing and rushing. Overrated though, right?

Uh huh.
 

ntdz

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Originally posted by: Ackmed
Originally posted by: Mill
USC is probably the most overrated team of the past decade.


I agree to a point. If they played in a good conference, like the SEC, there would be zero chance they would have been undefeated for so long. SEC just has too good of defenses.

Also to the people who claim LSU is overrated. You really dont have a clue. They have what is probably the best defense in all of NCAA football. Ranking in the top 5 in all major stats. Yeah they had some close games, and could have easily lost 2-3 more games. So could any team. USC could have easily lost 3 games this year. LSU got a two week late start, because of Katrina. They never got a bye week, like most other teams that got two. So they have played every single week back to back to back and not having their home statium for the whole season either.

Originally posted by: sciencewhiz
Originally posted by: Whisper
Honestly, in that system, the strength of USC's schedule is then heavily-overrated. LSU has played better teams.

I challenge you to find an unbiased system in which LSU's schedule is rated better then USC's. The BCS's old SOS calculation has LSU 59th and USC 30th.

Lets see, LSU has played (at the time of the game) the #15, #10, #11, #16, #4, and #13 team.

USC has played (again at the time of the game) the #24, #14, #9, #16, and #11 team.

LSU has played one more ranked team, while playing in a MUCH tougher conference. USC would not last in the SEC, with their defenses. USC and LSU both played AZ St., both being very close games. Not that its a direct link, but thats pretty even playing the same team.

First of all, LSU isn't anywhere near where USC is, don't even try to compare them. They just got SMOKED by 20 by Georgia...

Second of all, how can you say the PAC-10 isn't a strong conference? Go look up where they rank in the computers. They are the number 1 offensive conference in the nation, and going into this weekend had 3 teams in the top 11. Weak? I don't think so. USC beat everyone they've played for the last 2.5 years...how is that overrated??? I can't give them enough respect for what they've done over the last few years.
 

Oscar1613

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Originally posted by: ntdz
Originally posted by: Mill
USC is probably the most overrated team of the past decade.

...That's why they are going to win a 3rd straight national title and their 35th straight win. No other team has ever won 3 straight national titles...but hey, they are overrated.

Oh, and they are the first college football team in history to finish in the top 4 in passing and rushing. Overrated though, right?

Uh huh.

if they win, it will be their 2nd straight
 

her209

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Originally posted by: Oscar1613
if they win, it will be their 2nd straight
Yeah, because co-champions were never declared before 2003. Oh wait...
 

flxnimprtmscl

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Originally posted by: BigPoppa
Originally posted by: Mill
USC is probably the most overrated team of the past decade.

And before everyone jumps on Mill:

Is USC a great team? Definately
Are they overrated? Oh hell yes.

Mill is still an idiot. He's so biased it honestly makes me laugh.
 

Mill

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Originally posted by: ntdz
Originally posted by: Mill
USC is probably the most overrated team of the past decade.

...That's why they are going to win a 3rd straight national title and their 35th straight win. No other team has ever won 3 straight national titles...but hey, they are overrated.

Oh, and they are the first college football team in history to finish in the top 4 in passing and rushing. Overrated though, right?

Uh huh.

Yes, they are overrated. They play in the Pac-10. If there was a playoff system they wouldn't have been undefeated these past few years.

Look, USC has a great team, but to act as if Auburn last year, or UT this year can't play with them is silly. USC's defense is nowhere near what it was in 03 or even 04, and everyone knew OU was a fraud after the year before when they blew it in the Big 12 Championship game.

USC has a historical game, but for people to make threads saying they can beat NFL teams is absurd!
 

alexjohnson16

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Originally posted by: ntdz
Originally posted by: Ackmed
Originally posted by: Mill
USC is probably the most overrated team of the past decade.


I agree to a point. If they played in a good conference, like the SEC, there would be zero chance they would have been undefeated for so long. SEC just has too good of defenses.

Also to the people who claim LSU is overrated. You really dont have a clue. They have what is probably the best defense in all of NCAA football. Ranking in the top 5 in all major stats. Yeah they had some close games, and could have easily lost 2-3 more games. So could any team. USC could have easily lost 3 games this year. LSU got a two week late start, because of Katrina. They never got a bye week, like most other teams that got two. So they have played every single week back to back to back and not having their home statium for the whole season either.

Originally posted by: sciencewhiz
Originally posted by: Whisper
Honestly, in that system, the strength of USC's schedule is then heavily-overrated. LSU has played better teams.

I challenge you to find an unbiased system in which LSU's schedule is rated better then USC's. The BCS's old SOS calculation has LSU 59th and USC 30th.

Lets see, LSU has played (at the time of the game) the #15, #10, #11, #16, #4, and #13 team.

USC has played (again at the time of the game) the #24, #14, #9, #16, and #11 team.

LSU has played one more ranked team, while playing in a MUCH tougher conference. USC would not last in the SEC, with their defenses. USC and LSU both played AZ St., both being very close games. Not that its a direct link, but thats pretty even playing the same team.

First of all, LSU isn't anywhere near where USC is, don't even try to compare them. They just got SMOKED by 20 by Georgia...

Second of all, how can you say the PAC-10 isn't a strong conference? Go look up where they rank in the computers. They are the number 1 offensive conference in the nation, and going into this weekend had 3 teams in the top 11. Weak? I don't think so. USC beat everyone they've played for the last 2.5 years...how is that overrated??? I can't give them enough respect for what they've done over the last few years.

They might be the humber one offensive conference in the nation, but you must realize... A MAJORITY OF GAMES ARE CONFERENCE.

That is a terrible point to bring up. It just shows how weak defenses are in the PAthetiC 10.
 

kalster

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Originally posted by: Ackmed
Originally posted by: Mill
USC is probably the most overrated team of the past decade.


I agree to a point. If they played in a good conference, like the SEC, there would be zero chance they would have been undefeated for so long. SEC just has too good of defenses.

Also to the people who claim LSU is overrated. You really dont have a clue. They have what is probably the best defense in all of NCAA football. Ranking in the top 5 in all major stats. Yeah they had some close games, and could have easily lost 2-3 more games. So could any team. USC could have easily lost 3 games this year. LSU got a two week late start, because of Katrina. They never got a bye week, like most other teams that got two. So they have played every single week back to back to back and not having their home statium for the whole season either.

Originally posted by: sciencewhiz
Originally posted by: Whisper
Honestly, in that system, the strength of USC's schedule is then heavily-overrated. LSU has played better teams.

I challenge you to find an unbiased system in which LSU's schedule is rated better then USC's. The BCS's old SOS calculation has LSU 59th and USC 30th.

Lets see, LSU has played (at the time of the game) the #15, #10, #11, #16, #4, and #13 team.

USC has played (again at the time of the game) the #24, #14, #9, #16, and #11 team.

LSU has played one more ranked team, while playing in a MUCH tougher conference. USC would not last in the SEC, with their defenses. USC and LSU both played AZ St., both being very close games. Not that its a direct link, but thats pretty even playing the same team.

mm LSU beat Arkansas by 2 points, SC hung 70 on them, SEC may have good defense but most of the teams are offensively challenged as well

 

Ready

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Obviously after today LSU and Fresno both belong there. VT probably belong up there too. VT is good but they are overrated.
 

Ready

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Originally posted by: alexjohnson16
Originally posted by: ntdz
Originally posted by: Ackmed
Originally posted by: Mill
USC is probably the most overrated team of the past decade.


I agree to a point. If they played in a good conference, like the SEC, there would be zero chance they would have been undefeated for so long. SEC just has too good of defenses.

Also to the people who claim LSU is overrated. You really dont have a clue. They have what is probably the best defense in all of NCAA football. Ranking in the top 5 in all major stats. Yeah they had some close games, and could have easily lost 2-3 more games. So could any team. USC could have easily lost 3 games this year. LSU got a two week late start, because of Katrina. They never got a bye week, like most other teams that got two. So they have played every single week back to back to back and not having their home statium for the whole season either.

Originally posted by: sciencewhiz
Originally posted by: Whisper
Honestly, in that system, the strength of USC's schedule is then heavily-overrated. LSU has played better teams.

I challenge you to find an unbiased system in which LSU's schedule is rated better then USC's. The BCS's old SOS calculation has LSU 59th and USC 30th.

Lets see, LSU has played (at the time of the game) the #15, #10, #11, #16, #4, and #13 team.

USC has played (again at the time of the game) the #24, #14, #9, #16, and #11 team.

LSU has played one more ranked team, while playing in a MUCH tougher conference. USC would not last in the SEC, with their defenses. USC and LSU both played AZ St., both being very close games. Not that its a direct link, but thats pretty even playing the same team.

First of all, LSU isn't anywhere near where USC is, don't even try to compare them. They just got SMOKED by 20 by Georgia...

Second of all, how can you say the PAC-10 isn't a strong conference? Go look up where they rank in the computers. They are the number 1 offensive conference in the nation, and going into this weekend had 3 teams in the top 11. Weak? I don't think so. USC beat everyone they've played for the last 2.5 years...how is that overrated??? I can't give them enough respect for what they've done over the last few years.

They might be the humber one offensive conference in the nation, but you must realize... A MAJORITY OF GAMES ARE CONFERENCE.

That is a terrible point to bring up. It just shows how weak defenses are in the PAthetiC 10.



Is that how the number 5 team in the Pac-10 manage to hang 31 point on LSU?
 

Mill

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Originally posted by: Ready
Originally posted by: alexjohnson16
Originally posted by: ntdz
Originally posted by: Ackmed
Originally posted by: Mill
USC is probably the most overrated team of the past decade.


I agree to a point. If they played in a good conference, like the SEC, there would be zero chance they would have been undefeated for so long. SEC just has too good of defenses.

Also to the people who claim LSU is overrated. You really dont have a clue. They have what is probably the best defense in all of NCAA football. Ranking in the top 5 in all major stats. Yeah they had some close games, and could have easily lost 2-3 more games. So could any team. USC could have easily lost 3 games this year. LSU got a two week late start, because of Katrina. They never got a bye week, like most other teams that got two. So they have played every single week back to back to back and not having their home statium for the whole season either.

Originally posted by: sciencewhiz
Originally posted by: Whisper
Honestly, in that system, the strength of USC's schedule is then heavily-overrated. LSU has played better teams.

I challenge you to find an unbiased system in which LSU's schedule is rated better then USC's. The BCS's old SOS calculation has LSU 59th and USC 30th.

Lets see, LSU has played (at the time of the game) the #15, #10, #11, #16, #4, and #13 team.

USC has played (again at the time of the game) the #24, #14, #9, #16, and #11 team.

LSU has played one more ranked team, while playing in a MUCH tougher conference. USC would not last in the SEC, with their defenses. USC and LSU both played AZ St., both being very close games. Not that its a direct link, but thats pretty even playing the same team.

First of all, LSU isn't anywhere near where USC is, don't even try to compare them. They just got SMOKED by 20 by Georgia...

Second of all, how can you say the PAC-10 isn't a strong conference? Go look up where they rank in the computers. They are the number 1 offensive conference in the nation, and going into this weekend had 3 teams in the top 11. Weak? I don't think so. USC beat everyone they've played for the last 2.5 years...how is that overrated??? I can't give them enough respect for what they've done over the last few years.

They might be the humber one offensive conference in the nation, but you must realize... A MAJORITY OF GAMES ARE CONFERENCE.

That is a terrible point to bring up. It just shows how weak defenses are in the PAthetiC 10.



Is that how the number 5 team in the Pac-10 manage to hang 31 point on LSU?

You mean after the game was moved after the Hurricane, and half of the LSU team thought their families were dead. Oh.
 

Ready

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Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: Ready
Originally posted by: alexjohnson16
Originally posted by: ntdz
Originally posted by: Ackmed
Originally posted by: Mill
USC is probably the most overrated team of the past decade.


I agree to a point. If they played in a good conference, like the SEC, there would be zero chance they would have been undefeated for so long. SEC just has too good of defenses.

Also to the people who claim LSU is overrated. You really dont have a clue. They have what is probably the best defense in all of NCAA football. Ranking in the top 5 in all major stats. Yeah they had some close games, and could have easily lost 2-3 more games. So could any team. USC could have easily lost 3 games this year. LSU got a two week late start, because of Katrina. They never got a bye week, like most other teams that got two. So they have played every single week back to back to back and not having their home statium for the whole season either.

Originally posted by: sciencewhiz
Originally posted by: Whisper
Honestly, in that system, the strength of USC's schedule is then heavily-overrated. LSU has played better teams.

I challenge you to find an unbiased system in which LSU's schedule is rated better then USC's. The BCS's old SOS calculation has LSU 59th and USC 30th.

Lets see, LSU has played (at the time of the game) the #15, #10, #11, #16, #4, and #13 team.

USC has played (again at the time of the game) the #24, #14, #9, #16, and #11 team.

LSU has played one more ranked team, while playing in a MUCH tougher conference. USC would not last in the SEC, with their defenses. USC and LSU both played AZ St., both being very close games. Not that its a direct link, but thats pretty even playing the same team.

First of all, LSU isn't anywhere near where USC is, don't even try to compare them. They just got SMOKED by 20 by Georgia...

Second of all, how can you say the PAC-10 isn't a strong conference? Go look up where they rank in the computers. They are the number 1 offensive conference in the nation, and going into this weekend had 3 teams in the top 11. Weak? I don't think so. USC beat everyone they've played for the last 2.5 years...how is that overrated??? I can't give them enough respect for what they've done over the last few years.

They might be the humber one offensive conference in the nation, but you must realize... A MAJORITY OF GAMES ARE CONFERENCE.

That is a terrible point to bring up. It just shows how weak defenses are in the PAthetiC 10.



Is that how the number 5 team in the Pac-10 manage to hang 31 point on LSU?

You mean after the game was moved after the Hurricane, and half of the LSU team thought their families were dead. Oh.

and here comes the excuses!
 

ntdz

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Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: ntdz
Originally posted by: Mill
USC is probably the most overrated team of the past decade.

...That's why they are going to win a 3rd straight national title and their 35th straight win. No other team has ever won 3 straight national titles...but hey, they are overrated.

Oh, and they are the first college football team in history to finish in the top 4 in passing and rushing. Overrated though, right?

Uh huh.

Yes, they are overrated. They play in the Pac-10. If there was a playoff system they wouldn't have been undefeated these past few years.

Look, USC has a great team, but to act as if Auburn last year, or UT this year can't play with them is silly. USC's defense is nowhere near what it was in 03 or even 04, and everyone knew OU was a fraud after the year before when they blew it in the Big 12 Championship game.

USC has a historical game, but for people to make threads saying they can beat NFL teams is absurd!

Everyone thought last years Oklahoma game was gonna be good, until the score was 38-3 at the half...If LSU gets dismanted by Georgia by 20, they can't play with USC. UT can hang with USC, but even that game will be a double digit win for USC. Mark my words.
 
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