Most salt we eat does not come from chips and other snacks

PlanetJosh

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Kind of hard to believe and I still can't get over it even though this study is 3 years old and I read about it back then. But for those of you who glossed over it or never heard of this whether or not there's some 3 year old thread about it on the forum, well here:

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/americans-getting-too-much-sodium-but-not-from-salty-snacks/

To sum it up the study knows that there's more salt in snacks for the same weight of snacks and bread. But we eat so much bread it overtakes snacks as our big source of salt.

Edit: Fixed last paragraph for clarity
 
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poofyhairguy

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That is why I only eat sprouted whole grain vegan bread made by a hippie commune in California.
 

HeXen

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Processed food should be avoided. This should be common knowledge these days.

Lol, how? Everything is processed unless you have your own farm and what isn't processed has chemicals and pesticides in it. Or you could do like poofyhairguy and buy bread that's been tea bagged by a bunch of hippies.
 

CZroe

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Many different kinds of sodium are used as preservatives on just about everything, so I was never under the delusion that salty snacks or table salt were the primary sources. Even three years ago this was a big "no duh."

On top of that, the OP's response is acting like salt = bad. No. High blood pressure = bad. Even then, HBP correlates with heart disease but the real issue with heart disease is plaque in the arteries (bad cholesterol).

Salt is a necessary electrolyte that some of us get too much of, but acting like "ZOMG! I had no idea we were eating all this poison!!!!" is WAY out of line. There isn't even any proof that HBP caused by salt also causes heart disease (that HBP is probably caused by.... *gasp* the clogged arteries).
 

BoberFett

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Processed food should be avoided. This should be common knowledge these days.

People love to hate on "processed food". Do those people ever stop to think about what those words mean? Or is it just a convenient phrase to throw around and pretend that you're a better, healthier person for not eating it?

Go home and mash fresh tomatoes into paste. Congratulations, you've just created processed food.

Pasteurized milk is processed food. How is that whole raw milk thing working out for people?
 

PricklyPete

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Lol, how? Everything is processed unless you have your own farm and what isn't processed has chemicals and pesticides in it. Or you could do like poofyhairguy and buy bread that's been tea bagged by a bunch of hippies.



Oh please. I'm not getting into some stupid internet argument over semantics. There is a huge difference between a typical frozen meal or fast food meal and the chicken roast/salad toucan make with a chicken and some vegetables in the produce section. If you want to get in some ridiculous argument on what I mean by "processed", have fun with yourself.
 

PricklyPete

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People love to hate on "processed food". Do those people ever stop to think about what those words mean? Or is it just a convenient phrase to throw around and pretend that you're a better, healthier person for not eating it?

Go home and mash fresh tomatoes into paste. Congratulations, you've just created processed food.

Pasteurized milk is processed food. How is that whole raw milk thing working out for people?



Goddamn you people are ridiculous.
 

HeXen

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People love to hate on "processed food". Do those people ever stop to think about what those words mean? Or is it just a convenient phrase to throw around and pretend that you're a better, healthier person for not eating it?

Go home and mash fresh tomatoes into paste. Congratulations, you've just created processed food.

Pasteurized milk is processed food. How is that whole raw milk thing working out for people?

Oh for fuck's sake, it's just a generally used term, you knew damn well what he meant. It's very common to do that with the English language ya know, everyone knows what processing something means. You literal people crack me up.
 

KeithP

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At this point, isn't it pretty much agreed that salt/sodium isn't the evil dietary boogeyman that it was once made out to be?

-KeithP
 

lxskllr

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I take that as a sign that I'm not eating enough chips and snacks. Challenge accepted!!

I was just contemplating some salt & vinegar chips, but my mouth is still salt burned from the jalapeño chips I ate yesterday. Poores brand. They were pretty good, but holy shit they were salty.
 

IronWing

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I get all the salt I need from the meat I eat, at least in winter. :sneaky:
 
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Goddamn you people are ridiculous.

You think people are just being dicks about semantics but without qualifying what processing you're talking about its impossible to say. And it absolutely is a problem with regards to how people talk about this stuff.

Oh for fuck's sake, it's just a generally used term, you knew damn well what he meant. It's very common to do that with the English language ya know, everyone knows what processing something means. You literal people crack me up.

That's the fucking problem. Its being used in a general sense by people that don't know what they're fucking talking about. Much like chemicals, natural, and half the other words people use now. They use it in a completely meaningless fucking way which makes it a worthless fucking term.

Acting like it just describes fast food, frozen meals, and shit like cheapass mac 'n cheese and ramen is bullshit because people absolutely are using it to effectively scare themselves into believing that all the food they eat is bad for them.

I absolutely see people use the term "processed" to describe large scale farming of stuff like vegetables and stuff (so that even if they're eating it "naturally", like corn cobs, bags of veggies, etc), and they're convinced all of that is equally unhealthy as a frozen pizza because fucking assholes throw terms about without qualifying them for shit.



At this point, isn't it pretty much agreed that salt/sodium isn't the evil dietary boogeyman that it was once made out to be?

-KeithP

No. Doctors still tell people with high blood pressure to restrict their salt intake and first thing I see practically anyone say with regards to hearing someone diagnosed with HBP to limit their sodium intake.
 

Carson Dyle

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Bread doesn't surprise me.

I went a little nuts last Thursday night and ate most of a loaf of fresh baked bread from the local grocery store. I weigh myself daily and got up the next day 2 1/2 lbs heavier than the day before, then down 1/2 lb Saturday, another 3/4 lb on Sunday, and a full 2 lbs today. No doubt it's from flushing all the sodium and the water it retains from my system.
 

thesmokingman

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I get this shit from my wife all the time. If you read and followed every study, there'd be nothing left you could eat lol.
 

Excelsior

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Yeah we need salt. Salt used to be rare along with fats so we are conditioned to seek it out. Evolution didnt account for us pwning the earth and strip mining salt for our fast food diets.

Yep, glad someone posted this. There are more important things to focus on when eating than "how much sodium is in _____".
 

Mike64

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Ignoring the underlying question of the healthfulness, or lack thereof, of consuming a lot of salt, what I want to know is, who are these alleged people that eat so much bread on a daily basis? I certainly don't and in all honestly, I don't know anyone else who does either. I do, on the other hand, know quite a few people who eat at least a bag of chips per day (and I'm not talking about those tiny little so-called "snack size" things) as well as purchased, prepared food at lunch time (and often breakfast), much of which is quite salty...
 

Jeff7

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A side thought about salt:
The brand of stewed tomatoes I buy contains calcium chloride as well as regular salt

So if I eat 3tsp of calcium chloride, that wouldn't count against my sodium intake.

It's just a curiosity to me - the chlorine component doesn't appear in the nutrition facts, only the sodium.
Use calcium chloride instead of sodium chloride: "Extremely low sodium per serving!" (Cost/flavor...?)
 

JSt0rm

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Ignoring the underlying question of the healthfulness, or lack thereof, of consuming a lot of salt, what I want to know is, who are these alleged people that eat so much bread on a daily basis? I certainly don't and in all honestly, I don't know anyone else who does either. I do, on the other hand, know quite a few people who eat at least a bag of chips per day (and I'm not talking about those tiny little so-called "snack size" things) as well as purchased, prepared food at lunch time (and often breakfast), much of which is quite salty...


In the midwest they eat tons of carbs.
 
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