Motherboard Stabilizer Cable

DJMiX

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does this really work?
also if anyone has a link to a DIY POWER SUPPLY MOD please post it...
 

harrkev

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This is a tough one. For what it's worth, I hold a Master's degree in Electrical Engineering...

Capacitors are used as a sort of "mini-battery" which is used to smooth out the power ripples due to changing load conditions. Let's say that a mobo sucks 2 amps. Then, you launch a game and it starts sucking 5 amps. It takes a little time for the power supply to adapt to the sudden change in current, so the capacitors are used to take up the slack for a very brief instant of time. So if there is inadequace capacitance on the motherboard, problems CAN result.

However, the people who design the motherboards know all of this stuff (they are paid professionals). So they build in enough capacitance to handle things like this. Of course, they cannot throw a hundred caps on the board, as these things cost money. The trick is to put enough in, while not putting too many. Too few, and the board is unstable. Too many, and the board is too expensive.

So, in my professional estimation, this MAY help if your mobo does not quite have enough capacitance (not likely), or if your power supply is a little slow to respond. In any case, it certainly cannot hurt. But this is not a magic pill to cure a cheap power supply.

As far as doing it yourself, you just need to hook a cap between each power line and a ground line. The working voltage of the cap should be comfortably over the voltage of the line being filtered (double the voltage is a good idea). And the capacitance should be as large as you can reasonably get. The ones to use are electrolytic caps. Also, observe the polarity of the caps. Most electrylytics are polarized. Hooking them up backwards lets the magic smoke out.

Also note that if you cross your wires, you can fry your mobo or power supply. Not for raw noobs. 'nuff said.
 

Mday

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It CAN work, for certain power applications. But in this case, I dont think it will do much of anything. I hold a BE in EE ; ; no Masters yet.

The typical requirement for the 5vsb line is about 2A if you want the fancy power on options (by USB, ps2 mouse\keyboard). Most powersupplies that dont suck already do this. The 5vsb line is not used for anything BUT power on and power off applications (ie, soft off) iirc. I have to reread the ATX spec for verification.
 

Navid

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Adding a capacitor can help. But, it can hurt too!
Adding capacitance to the output of a voltage regulator can make it unstable.
I don't know how the PC power supplies work. I don't know if they are simple series voltage regulators or not. If they are, I wouldn't just add a cap to the output.
 

Cerb

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I don't hold a degree in EE, nor do I plan to, but this sounds to me like a product to buy to fix a cheap PSU, when getting an Enermax or <insert good brand here> would be a better long-term option, as the PSU and mobo should already have sufficient caps to handle these things.

Kinda funny how you pay $15 more for a PSU, and it is packed full; and pay $15 more for a mobo and it has more and bigger caps than the Syntax and PC Chips ones...
 

Zepper

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One of the Athlon 64 mobos out there (I think it's the Asus A8V Deluxe) has a problem with instability of the 5VSB line (strangely enough it usually happens with Antec PSUs) and this might be a fix for that - otherwise totally unneeded. However, if you are experiencing some flakiness and can't trace it to anything else - what the hey... It won't break you to try it - easy enough to get a cap (looks like 1000uF at 6.3V, very low ESR and high ripple tolerance) and try it yourself (neg side to ground, pos side to 5VSB line). Doesn't require cutting any wires.
. The only PSU mod I've done is to replace the OE fan with a better one hooked to an external speed control. Lots of places have transparent PSU case tops that work with some of the more popular PSUs. And there's always wire sleeving and replacing the 5" drive power connector shells with those neat ones from Vantec (even comes with a cheap little contact removal tool)...
.bh.
 

Sokratz

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that atx connector extension is worth 5 bux though. especially if you want to mod your psu and don't want to cut it's wires.
 
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