Moto G 2015 3rd Gen 1GB enough?

zod96

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If all I use the phone for is:

1. Making Calls
2. Sending Email
3. Sending Text
4. Surfing the Web
5. Taking Pictures

Is 1GB enough for this? I do not play any games at all on the phone. I also have a 32GB SD card that I can pop in.

Thanks
 

LOL_Wut_Axel

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Not really. From personal experience and that of other friends Android needs around 2GB to run smoothly. 1GB you'll get by with some apps, and not so much with others. Any sort of multi-tasking in particular is hampered by apps both having to redraw and taking time to load.

Buy a ZenFone 2 instead. It's around $20 more and has a way better processor, 2GB of RAM and a bigger, higher resolution display. Not only that but you have 16GB of storage capacity and still get a microSD card slot in case you need any additional.

http://smile.amazon.com/ASUS-ZenFon...UTF8&qid=1438559103&sr=1-1&keywords=zenfone+2
 

paperwastage

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pay for the extra $.... it's worth it (phone will last longer before you feel like upgrading.... if you are going to upgrade in a year or two, then maybe not)

as for moto g 3rd gen vs zenfone 2:

moto g - water resistant, looks like better battery life (need more reviews/test), less skin/bloat and more dev friendly, better for use on T-mobile

zenfone 2: higher res display, processor
 

zod96

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I went with the 2GB. Only problem is, its already back ordered like 3-4 weeks. My has a ship date of Aug 25th :-(
 

paperwastage

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I went with the 2GB. Only problem is, its already back ordered like 3-4 weeks. My has a ship date of Aug 25th :-(

maybe it's because you got some backordered white front/purple back?

I tried customizing one, earlier ship date

Memory - 16GB with 2GB RAM
Back - Cabernet
Front - Black
Trim - Black
Availability: In stock. Estimated delivery: Aug 11, 2015
 

LOL_Wut_Axel

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pay for the extra $.... it's worth it (phone will last longer before you feel like upgrading.... if you are going to upgrade in a year or two, then maybe not)

as for moto g 3rd gen vs zenfone 2:

moto g - water resistant, looks like better battery life (need more reviews/test), less skin/bloat and more dev friendly, better for use on T-mobile

zenfone 2: higher res display, processor

More dev friendly is debatable. The phone just came out and the ZenFone had its bootloader unlocked and you can put CyanogenMod on it, which is what most people into custom ROMs use.

Better for T-Mobile... if you happen to be in an area that relies heavily on Band 12, which is rarely the case for most.

As for the ZenFone, the screen is twice the resolution, which at this screen size most people will notice easily if you read text or watch video.

Processor is more than 3x faster; same goes for graphics. You will also immediately notice this when it comes to app opening and switching.

As for stock Android, that's opinion and I for one think it's overrated. Everyone likes to talk about how it's the second coming of christ (figuratively) but stock Android lacks features found in ZenUI and other skins such as customizable quick settings and more in-depth power/battery options.

Water resistant... eh, who cares? As long as you're not clumsy you won't drop it in your toilet.

The ZenFone is clearly superior of the two, but eh.
 

paperwastage

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As for stock Android, that's opinion and I for one think it's overrated
Water resistant... eh, who cares?

The ZenFone is clearly superior of the two, but eh.

I gave (mostly) facts... you (and other people) can give their opinion

(I have no opinion on this issue)
 
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gmaster456

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Glad you went with 2gb. At this point 1gb needs to go away and die. Phones have been using 2gb since 2012 now and software has definitely caught up.
 

Wildman107

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The 2Gb version is completely sold out on motorola's website. They don't even allow you to back order it now.
 

poofyhairguy

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More dev friendly is debatable.

No, it really isn't. That Intel SoC is a XDA developer nightmare, easily shown in the fact that the CM for that phone has more bugs than a grain silo. And it doesn't look like it will get crazy better because there aren't any other phones where the development can be leveraged from.

One nice thing about Qualcomm is everything is open and consistent. That is why devs can crank out ROMs so quickly after a new phone release, there is a LOT of experience in the community related to Qualcomm SoCs. You will always get the best support with a Qualcomm SoC.

It is not just Intel that lags, those who have Exynos SoCs know the pain of inferior third party support.
 

paperwastage

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BTW Motorola removed band 12 support from the moto g specs page... (due to no VoLTE support.... 911 calls won't go through properly if you only have band 12 LTE)

Looks like T-Mobile got their way... Sigh
 
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LOL_Wut_Axel

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I gave (mostly) facts... you (and other people) can give their opinion

(I have no opinion on this issue)


LOL, sure... it's the other way around, dear. Your argument of better UI is as subjective as they come. Higher resolution, bigger display is not. Neither is 3x faster processor.
 

paperwastage

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LOL, sure... it's the other way around, dear. Your argument of better UI is as subjective as they come. Higher resolution, bigger display is not. Neither is 3x faster processor.
Less skin /bloat is a true fact... I didn't say its better ui with less skin

Some people do like touchwiz
 

LOL_Wut_Axel

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BTW Motorola removed band 12 support from the moto g specs page... (due to no VoLTE support.... 911 calls won't go through properly if you only have band 12 LTE)

Looks like T-Mobile got their way... Sigh

LOL, looks like that (pretty meaningless) argument is gone then. Most T-Mo customers don't rely heavily on Band 12 for coverage. In any case they can just fall into HSPA+ which is 44Mbps max.
 

LOL_Wut_Axel

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Less skin /bloat is a true fact... I didn't say its better ui

Some people do like touchwiz

That depends on whether you can define the additional things as bloat. Some people find 'em useful. Again, subjective.

You can use that argument and I can just as easily say ZenUI has a much better quick settings and battery management system/app.
 

paperwastage

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That depends on whether you can define the additional things as bloat. Some people find 'em useful. Again, subjective.

You can use that argument and I can just as easily say ZenUI has a much better quick settings and battery management system/app.
I was referring more of bloatware... (Removable, but still a hassle)

Anyways, my whole point was that I was reporting facts... Whatever...

Each phone hasits own positives and negatives (at this price point). Choose whatever you want
 

LOL_Wut_Axel

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I was referring more of bloatware... (Removable, but still a hassle)

Anyways, my whole point was that I was reporting facts... Whatever...


You can root it and remove all of it if you don't like it as well. Or you can take stock Android and add features with different ROMs. It's not like you're forced to have to use it.
 

poofyhairguy

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You can root it and remove all of it if you don't like it as well. Or you can take stock Android and add features with different ROMs. It's not like you're forced to have to use it.

But the issue is that it exists and for SOME people that is a bad thing.

Why?

Because it means FOR CERTAIN that OS updates will take longer than they would on stock AOSP devices because the manufacturer now has to redo every future version of Android to have those same "features" or risk confusing their user base. That is why it takes Samsung or HTC or anything not a Nexus or GPe so long to roll out OS updates. They have to redo the quick toggles every time (plus more).

I completely agree with your point that not all people like stock Android. I would go so far to say it's INAPPROPRIATE for most people, as AOSP has some rough edges that a Touchwiz chops off. But for those who value stock Android it isn't really about if the extra "skin" is worthwhile, the issue is that ANYTHING that delays updates is seen as a negative. Anything a skin gives us we can get for ourselves in an app or something like Xposed.

The "you can root it" argument doesn't really fly because even the BEST third party CM roms aren't as solid as say a Nexus rom. There really isn't a replacement for recompiling the needed binary drivers for the proper version of the Linux kernel you are using. Only the manufacturer can do that.
 

RossMAN

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BTW Motorola removed band 12 support from the moto g specs page... (due to no VoLTE support.... 911 calls won't go through properly if you only have band 12 LTE)

Looks like T-Mobile got their way... Sigh

I was so hoping you were wrong

Does the Moto X Play have band 12? Yep I know it's not available in 'Merica.
 

LOL_Wut_Axel

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But the issue is that it exists and for SOME people that is a bad thing.

Why?

Because it means FOR CERTAIN that OS updates will take longer than they would on stock AOSP devices because the manufacturer now has to redo every future version of Android to have those same "features" or risk confusing their user base. That is why it takes Samsung or HTC or anything not a Nexus or GPe so long to roll out OS updates. They have to redo the quick toggles every time (plus more).

I completely agree with your point that not all people like stock Android. I would go so far to say it's INAPPROPRIATE for most people, as AOSP has some rough edges that a Touchwiz chops off. But for those who value stock Android it isn't really about if the extra "skin" is worthwhile, the issue is that ANYTHING that delays updates is seen as a negative. Anything a skin gives us we can get for ourselves in an app or something like Xposed.

The "you can root it" argument doesn't really fly because even the BEST third party CM roms aren't as solid as say a Nexus rom. There really isn't a replacement for recompiling the needed binary drivers for the proper version of the Linux kernel you are using. Only the manufacturer can do that.

They always take longer if they're not Nexus devices. No matter if they have a near-stock version. Always.

That and non-stock ROMs many times (ZenFone included) add some useful features, which again, I could easily argue is important to some people. Some people also don't care about OS updates; ask average Joe and I'm sure 80% of them would tell you they don't notice or don't care. Nowadays most updates are very incremental in what they do: some bug fixes here and there, maybe a slightly different menu for settings or something else. In short, it's not as substantial as it used to be two-three years ago... not by a longshot.

What you said sounds great in theory, but in practice 80% of people won't care as they probably won't notice/won't appreciate any difference from an Android version .1 newer. The 20% that will, will also have to choose between having that .1 version much faster but losing out on some features as well. What you say isn't really that clear-cut when you look at it rationally.
 

poofyhairguy

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They always take longer if they're not Nexus devices. No matter if they have a near-stock version. Always..

No, not always. The Moto 2013 got KitKat before many Nexuses. It can happen.

Some people also don't care about OS updates; ask average Joe and I'm sure 80% of them would tell you they don't notice or don't care. .

They don't until something like Stagefright comes along. Then they care.

Nowadays most updates are very incremental in what they do: some bug fixes here and there, maybe a slightly different menu for settings or something else. In short, it's not as substantial as it used to be two-three years ago... not by a longshot..

You are completely talking out of your ass on this point. Lollipop was a HUGE update to Android. Like XP to Vista/7 kind of leap. Yet most phones aren't running it because the screwed up Android update process you are making excuses for.

What you say isn't really that clear-cut when you look at it rationally.

Rationally I am a nerd and that means I want the update as soon as its announced. I don't care what normal people want, they change their minds when a Stagefright hits. What is clear cut is that the Android update system isn't perfect and skinned OSes aren't a great long term answer. Hence why a Asus or Samsung cannot skin a Wear or Chrome OS device. Google learned their lesson.
 
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