Moto G 2015 3rd Gen 1GB enough?

[LOL_Wut_Axel]

No, not always. The Moto 2013 got KitKat before many Nexuses. It can happen.



They don't until something like Stagefright comes along. Then they care.



You are completely talking out of your ass on this point. Lollipop was a HUGE update to Android. Like XP to Vista/7 kind of leap. Yet most phones aren't running it because the screwed up Android update process you are making excuses for.



Rationally I am a nerd and that means I want the update as soon as its announced. I don't care what normal people want, they change their minds when a Stagefright hits. What is clear cut is that the Android update system isn't perfect and skinned OSes aren't a great long term answer. Hence why a Asus or Samsung cannot skin a Wear or Chrome OS device. Google learned their lesson.

Whatever, dude. Again, most people don't care either way. I don't care if you're a nerd. What you're nerding out about 80% of the population don't care about, because it rarely makes any big change to the experience.

BTW, talking specifically about updates, I said nowadays. I also said .1, just so you wouldn't try and take things out of context. But I knew it would happen, and it did. 5.0 to 5.1.1 isn't any big update by any stretch of the imagination.

Regarding stagefright, just a security update that fixes the vulnerability will do. You don't need an OS ugrade for that.

 

[poofyhairguy]

Whatever, dude. Again, most people don't care either way. I don't care if you're a nerd. What you're nerding out about 80% of the population don't care about, because it rarely makes any big change to the experience.

You say that yet the base of iOS users (who in many cases are as non technical as you can get) move pretty quickly to a new iOS update once it is released. A new version of iOS gets over 50% use years faster than Android updates do, and that is due to a low amount of comparative friction for updates.

If your theory was correct there wouldn't be so many iOS users updating so quickly. Normal people do care obviously if they are able to.

BTW, talking specifically about updates, I said nowadays. I also said .1, just so you wouldn't try and take things out of context. But I knew it would happen, and it did. 5.0 to 5.1.1 isn't any big update by any stretch of the imagination.

Oh but it IS. 5.0.x Lollipop is pretty much a rushed out garbage OS. It had a memory leak that was BAD on top of a ton of basic usability problems. 5.1 fixed a lot of 5.0's problems. Never before was I so thankful for a .1 upgrade. So was a lot of the Android journalist community so its not just me.

Jellybean (4.1) was a huge update over ICS (4.0). KitKat (4.4) was another huge .1 update. So this concept that .1 updates can be huge in Android is long established.

Heck .1 updates have been huge things in the whole industry for a while. That is what every OSX upgrade has been for over a decade and some of those were huge. Let us also not forget about all the changes in Windows 8.1 vs 8. It is not just Android. You are saying what makes sense to you logically based on how it used to be, but your perspective is divorced from the modern reality.

Regarding stagefright, just a security update that fixes the vulnerability will do. You don't need an OS ugrade for that.

The security updates come through the exact same mechanism that gives you OS updates. Stagefright is an OS level bug. That means of the billion Android phones sold the vast majority won't get that fix because at this point the update mechanism for them is broken. Heck I don't even think the the popular 2013 Galaxy S4 gets the fix.

Meanwhile Google put 5.1 on the 2012 Nexus. It is clear which Android phone line has the best long-term experience if you care about updates, which a lot of people do.

 

[sm625]

It is a shame they are even selling a 1GB phone in 2015. It is annoying having to constantly reload apps. The sad part is that even with 2GB it still finds a way to suck up all that RAM and you still end up reloading crap. I'm rather curious to see if this same crap happens at 4GB, maybe its just that bad of an OS.

 

[paperwastage]

It is a shame they are even selling a 1GB phone in 2015. It is annoying having to constantly reload apps. The sad part is that even with 2GB it still finds a way to suck up all that RAM and you still end up reloading crap. I'm rather curious to see if this same crap happens at 4GB, maybe its just that bad of an OS.

$200 is considered midrange.... there are corners/costs that have to be cut for this price

1GB is still fine for someone who wants a decent device(good build quality, lasts long etc) but doesn't do much on it. there's always the 2GB option if you care (too bad it's not user-upgradable)

(points to iPhone 6 with 16GB base storage at $649)

 

[GoodEnough]

Are 4GB RAM phones a thing now?

 

[Commodus]

Are 4GB RAM phones a thing now?

The OnePlus 2 and ZenFone 2 have 4GB models, and the Galaxy Note 5 is expected to ship with 4GB. It's rare, but no longer out of the realm of possibility.

 

[GoodEnough]

Ok, but 2GB is still the norm standard in 2014 and 2015