Although I have driven none of the three... I'd be very shocked if I'd choose either of the FWD cars over a RWD FRS.i am really impressed by the focus ST. maybe its not as fast straight line as the ms3, but its a really well built car. friend bought one, and i've sat in both it, the ms3 and the frs.
they are probably all fairly close in performance, but the focus ST is just the nicer car. even just sittign in it, it feels like an expensive car AND it drives well for $25k. best overall car in that class i think
Ford is really doing very nice things lately. I would def take the ST over Mazdaspeed, but that's mostly due to styling. New MS3 is just hidious. That grin is just so ridicules.
I would however take the previous gen MS3 over the ST.....
Makes me want to take my ST to a track.
Although I have driven none of the three... I'd be very shocked if I'd choose either of the FWD cars over a RWD FRS.
My friend choose the st over the FRS. Another friend has a FRS and another a brz. As an only car st is just a lot more practical. You can actually put stuff in it , real people can sit in the back etc. The st also tends to cost less. The brz interior and seats are nicer than the FRS but at that point its even more money
On a track its probably worse but in day to day he said its just easier to drive since it has more torque. The frs interior is also complete crap compared to the st. I'd put the FRS interior at Toyota yaris level terrible but car mags call this "basic and focused on driving". .
FRS is a better driving car for sure. But for most people I'd say its a worse car
Would love to see how the next gen GTi stands up to these. Right now it's supposed to be 200 pounds lighter than the previous generation, and up 20HP and 50ft/lbs putting it right in line with these two cars. Not sure if the mechanical diff is making it stateside or not. Good time for hot hatches.
Good post
Most people fail to keep these to completely seperate.....and end up learning the hard way.
Keep your "nice/special car" COMPLETELY separate from "Daily driver".
It's just SO much better that way ALL around.
Although I have driven none of the three... I'd be very shocked if I'd choose either of the FWD cars over a RWD FRS.
Good time for hot hatches.
Except for that it usually cost more money part.
In the long run, probably not. Keeping your "nice" car in the tip top shape is not only impossible but also costly.
Besides the fact that cars lose their value QUICK as you rack up miles....
So the answer is, not necessarily.
Value wise having one car may depreciate faster than having 2 but in terms of actual money being spent it's still going to be cheaper/better value to have one car.
If you buy a new car that's a mix of both dd and weekend it's most likely going to be cheaper than if you bought 2 new cars with specific purposes (both new for sake of argument)
If you go the used route you're still in a similar situation. You can buy a better/less mileage car that's a mix of what you need versus splitting your budget and getting 2 but most likely higher mileage and potentially more issues cars that you can split your driving.
Good post
Most people fail to keep these to completely seperate.....and end up learning the hard way.
Keep your "nice/special car" COMPLETELY separate from "Daily driver".
It's just SO much better that way ALL around.
I don't understand why someone would choose a Focus ST or MS3 over the WRX.
Dat torque steer D:
:thumbsup:
Maybe I'm a product of my formative years, but to me a "hatchback" had 2 doors and a long, sloping rear window that opened up.
^^^ FWIW I had one that was almost identical to that in looks, other than being a darker red ("Canyon Red").
Price, mileage, interior, 6-speed. Really the only reason to get a WRX is all wheel drive. And it doesn't snow here.