Look at the moron making the claim and all will become clear. His job is to spread FUD. I don't know of a more intellectually dishonest person on this forum.
Didn't he run and leave the forum for a bit after he got called out in another motorcycle thread?
And all those V-Twin bikes the Japanese make... their only emissions are cute little kittens...
That seems expensive, food and housing for all those kittens that are continually produced?
I thought he was referring to the emissions being off gassed by the Harley rider themselves? :whiste:Why the hell would a Harley, with EFI and catalytic converters magically be somehow especially dirty?
Look, I get that some people don't like Harleys. That's fine. Everyone should ride what they like. But there's no excuse for this sort of ignorant prejudice.
Harley has had closed-loop EFI on all models since 2007 and has been using catalytic converters in the header pipes since 2009. Prior to '09 they were using catalytic converters in the mufflers for CA models for many years. There's absolutely no legitimate basis for you to suggest that a Harley is somehow more polluting than any other modern bike.
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Why the hell would a Harley, with EFI and catalytic converters magically be somehow especially dirty?
Look, I get that some people don't like Harleys. That's fine. Everyone should ride what they like. But there's no excuse for this sort of ignorant prejudice.
Harley has had closed-loop EFI on all models since 2007 and has been using catalytic converters in the header pipes since 2009. Prior to '09 they were using catalytic converters in the mufflers for CA models for many years. There's absolutely no legitimate basis for you to suggest that a Harley is somehow more polluting than any other modern bike.
ZV
I'll be trying to ride my bike for destinations less than or equal to 5 miles away from where I am. I'll also probably just put my bike in the trunk of my car for wherever I go so I can park somewhere without worrying about paying for it (or getting towed, etc) and then bike the rest.
They might do less, but it's significantly higher than cars (Multiple times higher. Motorcycles in California only do 1% of miles driven but contribute 10% of smog). I might have to get the motorcycle anyway. There's only so long I can actually use my car in California since it doesn't have a California approved catalytic converter. (How do they check? Do they just go under your car and actually look for a stamp of approval or what?)
I'll be trying to ride my bike for destinations less than or equal to 5 miles away from where I am. I'll also probably just put my bike in the trunk of my car for wherever I go so I can park somewhere without worrying about paying for it (or getting towed, etc) and then bike the rest.
They might do less, but it's significantly higher than cars (Multiple times higher. Motorcycles in California only do 1% of miles driven but contribute 10% of smog). I might have to get the motorcycle anyway. There's only so long I can actually use my car in California since it doesn't have a California approved catalytic converter. (How do they check? Do they just go under your car and actually look for a stamp of approval or what?)
I'll be trying to ride my bike for destinations less than or equal to 5 miles away from where I am. I'll also probably just put my bike in the trunk of my car for wherever I go so I can park somewhere without worrying about paying for it (or getting towed, etc) and then bike the rest.
LA is not a very bike friendly city. When I was planning on moving to LA, I was looking into commuting by bike. Bike lanes and bike friendly streets are very rare to find.
The state doesn't care if your is a "California Emissions" car or not if you bring it in from out of state. As long as it is 50-state emissions certified and passes a tailpipe check you won't have any problems with it.
I'm not worried. As long as there is a road then I'll be fine. Five miles in LA will take maybe twenty minutes. Less time and money than if I took the car. (Parking takes forever)
Don't have a license yet. Don't have a permit yet. However... my crystal ball tells me that those are in my future. So, I figure I may as well start planning to buy a motorcycle.
I'm going to be in San Diego/Los Angeles (And possibly between the two). I would like something that is capable of going 70mph for 3 hours and not exploding thereafter or therein. Able to seat 2 is a plus-ish. (I don't see it happening much, if ever)
It'll mostly be for commuting in Los Angeles. (It's huge and freeways) Saving on money is always nice. Upfront and down the road (Bike's initial cost, fuel, insurance, and so forth). So, suggestions? (Also, I don't know the rules on motorcycles and emissions in California, but I want something that plays nice)
Brother in law is selling his Nightrod Special in Torrance, CA. Seats 2, no problem holding 70mph.
Lemme know if you're interested and I'll put you in contact with him.
I suggest driving around the city with the perspective as a cyclist. I did and it's nothing something I would desire to do.
I thought he was referring to the emissions being off gassed by the Harley rider themselves? :whiste:
it's a joke...
Brother in law is selling his Nightrod Special in Torrance, CA. Seats 2, no problem holding 70mph.
Lemme know if you're interested and I'll put you in contact with him.
Hitting a stick doesn't do anything either.
If you've got a log that's a couple inches in diameter, that's different. But that's big enough to mess up a car too.
Once you're moving, a bike wants to stay upright. It actually takes a pretty sizable bump to put the bikes I've ridden off balance. It's gravel/sand/dirt in a corner that's the real problem.
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The 2" stick might mess up a car, but the car probably won't crash and kill you. What is the survivability of falling at 70mph?
... The 3 biggest causes of accidents and fatalities on motorcycles are riders riding beyond their capabilities, motorists violating the motorcyclist's right of way, and alcohol...
The 2" stick might mess up a car, but the car probably won't crash and kill you. What is the survivability of falling at 70mph?
A new rider isn't going to have a fun time with forward controls on a heavy bike with 32 degrees of front end rake. But other than that, the DX is pretty tame, and a darn sharp bike.
It is surprisingly tame, even for relatively new riders. I guess it comes down to purpose. It only has 1700 miles on it or so. He picked up a '12 BMW S1000RR not too long after the Harley and ended up riding that around a lot more, so the Harley has to go.