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CVSiN

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Originally posted by: K6
Originally posted by: CVSiN
SV650 is not a hooligan bike... its a very basic V twin sporty beginners bike.. its only got a 650cc V twin in it.. will not do wheelies or stoppies unless heavily encouraged to do so.

we start girls new to the sport on these bikes all the time..
its a great scooter.. with a few mods can also be a great V twin class race bike..

SV650 is not a very "beginner friendly" bike , is too powerful and is too fast and reactive.

For learning si better something lighter and easier like an Honda CB 500 , honda CB 500 S , Kawasaki ER5 or Suzuki GS 500 or GS 500 S.

also Ducati Monster 620 is a good option because il very ligh and not so powerful.

You havent ridden an SV 650 then bud.. they are as tame as a newborn pony... gutless even on a full throttle dump stock..

the V twin is what makes it tame.. the inline 4s you suggest are exactly the same class as the 650 except they are inline 4s. which actually make them faster than the SV..

the SV tops out at less than 130 mph.. and gets there pretty slow.. me being an expereinced rider can barely coax a wheelie out of this bike and its harder work than even the bikes you suggested..
The SV 650 is a perfect beginner bike for any novice..
predictable.. slow but failry nimble in braking and cornering..
it will not wheelie even on a clutch dump and the brakes are not overly grabby or repsonsive that you have to worry about instant stoppies if you grab too much..

 

K6

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Originally posted by: CVSiN
You havent ridden an SV 650 then bud.. they are as tame as a newborn pony... gutless even on a full throttle dump stock..

SV 650 exists in a limited power versione and a full power version , i think you are talking about the limited power version.

The same engine is also used on the Cagiva Raptor Raptor 650 i.e.

and I think is not an engine for beginners

Maybe the V-strom 650 with the same engine but in a detuned version may be a better option. Also the V-strom is more usable than an SV , with a V-strom you can also do some longer range trip or going around with your girlfriend (or wife)



Originally posted by: CVSiN
the V twin is what makes it tame.. the inline 4s you suggest are exactly the same class as the 650 except they are inline 4s. which actually make them faster than the SV..

CB500 , CB500S , ER5 , ER6-n, ER6-f ,GS500 and GS500S are all PARALLEL TWIN , none of them is an inline 4s



Originally posted by: CVSiN
the SV tops out at less than 130 mph.. and gets there pretty slow.. me being an expereinced rider can barely coax a wheelie out of this bike and its harder work than even the bikes you suggested..
The SV 650 is a perfect beginner bike for any novice..
predictable.. slow but failry nimble in braking and cornering..
it will not wheelie even on a clutch dump and the brakes are not overly grabby or repsonsive that you have to worry about instant stoppies if you grab too much..
... se above .... I still think You tried a limited SV....
 

Mr N8

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Get one that won't suck your wallet dry...Get the best Honda CBR series that you can find for the price.

I've had my eye on a Honda ST1100 for a while, but that's more along the lines of a family guy's sport bike, and would be hard to find for sub-$5k.
 

K6

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Originally posted by: LoKe
I've been considering getting a motorcycle for some time now, but I have no idea where to start looking.
I'm looking for a decent Sport model for under 5000$ CAD.
Anyone have any ideas?

another very good bike is the Guzzi Breva 750ie

although the high displacement (750cc) the power is low (48 Hp) , displacement is used for having an high torque on all' revs.

This bike is the best for going around slowly on hills or mountain road , is also very easy to run , there is no need to check the chain (and the bike remain clean) , the engine can run for more than 100000 Km with just regular maintance.

This bike is also EURO3 compliant


here some about the Breva 750ie


Here a picture of the Breva

and

here a picture explaning how to use it



 

mAdD INDIAN

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We don't get most of those bikes you pictured above.

I've done some research on this and I have found that the SV650 is a great starter bike also.

As for the OP...are you in toronto/gta area? Humber College has the Motorcycle Safety Course that gives you your M2 (if you pass the course that is). You should look into it.
 

xanis

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My Uncle acquired a nice Triumph, but they're rare and a little out of your price range.
 

Captante

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Originally posted by: MaxFusion16
ninja 250

/thread

If you never rode before this is a good choice because its small & light, don't get anything bigger until you have some experience under your belt, I also STRONGLY suggest you get lessons either from an experienced friend or better still from a professional riding school.

 

CVSiN

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Originally posted by: K6
Originally posted by: CVSiN
You havent ridden an SV 650 then bud.. they are as tame as a newborn pony... gutless even on a full throttle dump stock..

SV 650 exists in a limited power versione and a full power version , i think you are talking about the limited power version.

The same engine is also used on the Cagiva Raptor Raptor 650 i.e.

and I think is not an engine for beginners

Maybe the V-strom 650 with the same engine but in a detuned version may be a better option. Also the V-strom is more usable than an SV , with a V-strom you can also do some longer range trip or going around with your girlfriend (or wife)



Originally posted by: CVSiN
the V twin is what makes it tame.. the inline 4s you suggest are exactly the same class as the 650 except they are inline 4s. which actually make them faster than the SV..

CB500 , CB500S , ER5 , ER6-n, ER6-f ,GS500 and GS500S are all PARALLEL TWIN , none of them is an inline 4s



Originally posted by: CVSiN
the SV tops out at less than 130 mph.. and gets there pretty slow.. me being an expereinced rider can barely coax a wheelie out of this bike and its harder work than even the bikes you suggested..
The SV 650 is a perfect beginner bike for any novice..
predictable.. slow but failry nimble in braking and cornering..
it will not wheelie even on a clutch dump and the brakes are not overly grabby or repsonsive that you have to worry about instant stoppies if you grab too much..
... se above .... I still think You tried a limited SV....

I worked and Raced for a Motorcycle shop down here in Houston..
we set up no less than 20 different SV 650s.. all had around the same behaviour..
we out novice women on these bikes with no problems ever..

these were all 2000-2004 SV 650S and regular 650s..
our race bike even after masssive tuning would not power wheelie even in first..

we had M4 race system on it.. a aftermarket carb with stage 3 jet kit.
ported head and yoshimura race cams in this bike and was still very tame on the street and the track.

i would love to see your "monster tuned" SV that scares beginners

take a gander over at sportbikes.net and you will see this bike is one of the top recommended bikes for newbies hands down becasue of its manners.
 

Malfeas

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I guess I'm a girly man, I have a sv650. Maybe someday I'll grow a pair of testicles and get a bigger bike.
 

RGUN

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Loke are you in Ontario? Shoot me a pm with your msn, I went through the same process last year in Ontario so I could answer any questions you have. So far I like what people have said about a Ninja 250/500 or SV650. You can also look at the new Suzuki GS500F, it looks sporty but is very forgiving, although those plastics will be expensive to replace if you drop it.
 

RGUN

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A few people have pm'ed me regarding this, so Ill save time and post my response here:

Regarding motorcycle licenses in Ontario, they are fairly easy to get. A year ago I decided I wanted a bike, so I went out to my local Chapters and bought the motorcycle ministy handbook (similar to the book you buy for G license, infact, if you dont have that book I suggest you get it as you must write BOTH tests to get an M1). After that all you HAVE to do is go to a drive test office and write the M1 and G1 exam, (yes, even if you already have a full G). You then have to go back between 60 and 90 days and prove your competency to move up to M2. A better option than that is to go out, get your M1 and then go to a college course to qualify for your M2. Yes its $400, which is more than a ministy test ($80?) but the skills you learn will save your life. If you pass the college course you simply show the certificate to the ministry office and they automatically give you an M2. Then after 16 monthes I believe you can move up to an M license by taking either a ministry test or another college course. I havent had any experience with this as there is no point in moving up to an M (atleast for me, there is no insurance discount), so I have 5 years to do it.

College course is the best decision I made when deciding to get into bikes. Most definitely I would have killed myself by now if I didnt take the time to complete one (Sheridan College MSF specifically)

Anymore questions feel free to shoot me a pm or msn msg.

-Rob G
 
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