Motorola Droid Razr

[Bateluer]

Why are people coming in every ten posts and proclaiming the "news" about the locked bootloader?

Same reason people bring up Android not having GPU acceleration all the time, even though it does. Same reason people claim Android's browser is slow, even though its not. Failure to read mostly.

 

[soccerballtux]

So many awesome phones to choose from. I'm really liking the look of this phone and it'll probably be built like a brick. If it does have an unlocked bootloader I'd consider getting it over the Prime. I've yet to see a Motorola device that was a smooth as even my galaxy s1 thanks to tons of roms and customizations.

I agree. I have blamed it on the OMAPs. Not as good an FPU as the Hummingbird.

 

[soccerballtux]

Same reason people bring up Android not having GPU acceleration all the time, even though it does. Same reason people claim Android's browser is slow, even though its not. Failure to read mostly.

but it is slow. Not at rendering, at scrolling pages with lots of graphics and flash ads.

 

[Anubis]

if you actually read my last post you would see that the EU carriers will most likely get a phone with an unlocked bootloader

hence my FU VZ comment

 

[Bateluer]

but it is slow. Not at rendering, at scrolling pages with lots of graphics and flash ads.

Hmm, a browser is slower loading complex web pages? You don't say?

if you actually read my last post you would see that the EU carriers will most likely get a phone with an unlocked bootloader

hence my FU VZ comment

Just saw the tweet from Droid Life about this. Thats irritating. A reversal from the Droid 1/Milestone bootloader.

 

[postmortemIA]

but it is slow. Not at rendering, at scrolling pages with lots of graphics and flash ads.

Ibet safari is faster when it comes to pages with flash (which iOS doesn't support)

 

[soccerballtux]

Hmm, a browser is slower loading complex web pages? You don't say?

not talking about loading

 

[soccerballtux]

Ibet safari is faster when it comes to pages with flash (which iOS doesn't support)

that's unavoidable
but even a similar rendering technique would be cool with me-- it nabs a JPEG of the webpage and when you drag the webpage for scrolling, you're actually dragging the JPEG. That's how it was so fast on even the iphone 3G

 

[ew915]

This phone reminds me the old samsung X820, now samsung could sue motorola for copying

 

[MrBond]

I think the lack of a removable battery may be a deal breaker for me. I have a Droid 2 and I've had to do a battery pull reboot several times when the lock button won't wake up the phone. It doesn't bother me on my iPad because I've never had it lock up like that (it did get stuck in portrait mode once, but a soft reboot fixed that). It's happened way too much on my Droid 2 for me to feel comfortable with a Motorola phone where I can't remove the battery when the device refuses to wake up.

Although, I don't recall that happening since it updated to GB, so maybe they squashed that bug.

 

[MrX8503]

$300 on contract? I wonder how the notion of iPhones being overpriced had any leg to stand on.

 

[Red Storm]

$300 on contract? I wonder how the notion of iPhones being overpriced had any leg to stand on.

Opinions maybe?

I think both are overpriced, and that's because neither is appealing to me.

 

[NikolaeVarius]

that's unavoidable
but even a similar rendering technique would be cool with me-- it nabs a JPEG of the webpage and when you drag the webpage for scrolling, you're actually dragging the JPEG. That's how it was so fast on even the iphone 3G

Wait what, I thought it was a texture of the page.

Also, the GS2 does something different, because the flash moves while scrolling around, meaning its not just a snapshot.

 

[s44]

$300 on contract? I wonder how the notion of iPhones being overpriced had any leg to stand on.

iPhones don't have LTE.

 

[hanoverphist]

Opinions maybe?

I think both are overpriced, and that's because neither is appealing to me.

i like this phone and i think its very much overpriced...

 

[Bateluer]

$300 on contract? I wonder how the notion of iPhones being overpriced had any leg to stand on.

Verizon priced all their LTE phones at 249-299 on contract. Fortunately, there's other places to buy Verizon phones than Verizon's store.

 

[Anubis]

Yea the 300$ tag isnt new, they have been doing that since the tbolt and charge

 

[alent1234]

iPhones don't have LTE.

every iphone 4S works around the world

if i move to verizon what's the point of LTE if i'm going to be on a 2GB plan?

 

[sygyzy]

Man this is tough. Razr vs Prime.

 

[sygyzy]

I think the lack of a removable battery may be a deal breaker for me. I have a Droid 2 and I've had to do a battery pull reboot several times when the lock button won't wake up the phone. It doesn't bother me on my iPad because I've never had it lock up like that (it did get stuck in portrait mode once, but a soft reboot fixed that). It's happened way too much on my Droid 2 for me to feel comfortable with a Motorola phone where I can't remove the battery when the device refuses to wake up.

Although, I don't recall that happening since it updated to GB, so maybe they squashed that bug.

Alot of people are saying that you can use some combination of hardware presses to reset the device (like volume up + power). Personally, I've suffered enough hard locks on my Nexus One to know that when things go south, any combination of button mashes won't work; only a battery pull will help. I, too, and worried about a non-removable battery.

On the other hand, iPhones don't have a removable batteries and I've never had a problem with recovering from a crash/freeze when I owned a 3G.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

Same reason people bring up Android not having GPU acceleration all the time, even though it does. Same reason people claim Android's browser is slow, even though its not. Failure to read mostly.

Oh it's definitely slow... even loading pages without flash. Get over it. I think to not acknowledge this is pure BS.

And Android is barely hardware accelerated in the UI. Look at Anand's article. We went over this. People already quoted stuff to debunk what you were saying.

If it were soooo hardware accelerated, the UI would be buttery smooth like WP7 even on an antiquated Adreno 200 GPU.

And whatever? As long as Google gets it right with ICS, that would be great...

 

[Red Storm]

every iphone 4S works around the world

if i move to verizon what's the point of LTE if i'm going to be on a 2GB plan?

You don't have to download 100GB of data just because you can do it faster with LTE...

Fact is, network speed does make a difference. It was a night and day difference for me going from 3G to LTE. Instantly watch high quality videos with little to no buffering? Yes please. It is disappointing the iPhone still doesn't have this feature. That alone takes it out of the running for phones I consider buying (nevermind that ICS has already put everything but the Nexus out of the running now).

 

[alent1234]

most people i see everyday play videos on their phone while not connected to the network making LTE worthless in this situation

 

[Red Storm]

most people i see everyday play videos on their phone while not connected to the network making LTE worthless in this situation

"This situation" meaning when you're on a wifi connection? Sure, mostly. LTE is faster than just about any type of public wifi though, and even faster than many people's own home internet.

I have wifi at home and work. That covers two places, but I have a life and am not limited to those two locations. The whole point of LTE is having access to super fast download speeds when you're away from your wifi. It does the job beautifully for me (actually it does it too good. I canceled my home internet and now use LTE except when I'm at work).

 

[DisgruntledVirus]

You don't have to download 100GB of data just because you can do it faster with LTE...

Fact is, network speed does make a difference. It was a night and day difference for me going from 3G to LTE. Instantly watch high quality videos with little to no buffering? Yes please. It is disappointing the iPhone still doesn't have this feature. That alone takes it out of the running for phones I consider buying (nevermind that ICS has already put everything but the Nexus out of the running now).

There is nothing that says ICS won't get on the RAZR. How soon or if ever would be the real question.