Mousepad for wrist pain

[nwo]

K....see this Swiss Army fold out type set for no money! If the bigger ones cover the sizes you need, pls consider this! I have individual ones, and they sometimes escape. With this Swiss Army thingy.....none will ever escape.

But my take is you may ONLY NEED ONE SIZE.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-14pc-Fo...54614757?pt=US_Hand_Tools&hash=item415e4771e5

Heads UP! You are not crazy glued to the arms of that thing, it only FEELS as if you are; and the arms are not epoxied to the chair!!

GET THE WRENCH! Reclaim upper body freedom and health and normalcy!!!! Another cheer leading smilie.

Wow, thanks for the link! I bought it!

I'd rather spend 7 bucks than 200+ on a decent new chair. The one I'm currently using is not too bad, it just has the annoying arm rest.

 

[Virgorising]

Wow, thanks for the link! I bought it!

I'd rather spend 7 bucks than 200+ on a decent new chair. The one I'm currently using is not too bad, it just has the annoying arm rest.

Well!!!!!! I for one one....am THRILLED!!!!!!:biggrin:

Please report back when you divest yourself of the prison bars!!!!:thumbsup:

I could not live as happily as I do if eBay did not exist.

 

[nwo]

The mouse arrived today. Boy what a difference it makes. Pretty happy with it considering it's a "budget" vertical mouse.

It's just gonna take me a bit of time to get used to it. But the important thing here is that it alleviates some of the pain and discomfort due to a big change in hand/wrist posture.

 

[Virgorising]

The mouse arrived today. Boy what a difference it makes. Pretty happy with it considering it's a "budget" vertical mouse.

It's just gonna take me a bit of time to get used to it. But the important thing here is that it alleviates some of the pain and discomfort due to a big change in hand/wrist posture.

I am delighted! But, remember, yr hand, wrist are connected to your forearm which is connected to your upper arm which is connected to (not connected to exactly, more, the humerus articulates with) yr clavicle which is connected to yr upper body.

Wait until The Wrench arrives. I remained convinced, using it will free you fully, restore your ability to sit and balance normally, and the integrated health of all of you.

You will then, finally be SPRUNG from The Slammer.:biggrin:

 

[lenjack]

Bite the bullet and get a Logitech Trackball. Learning curve is not bad, and when done, you'll thank me.

 

[Virgorising]

Bite the bullet and get a Logitech Trackball. Learning curve is not bad, and when done, you'll thank me.

He don need another bandaid. The fix to the foundational issue is on the way.

 

[nwo]

Trackballs are cool, I've used em about a decade ago, but never really liked them.

Wrench will be here in a few days

 

[Virgorising]

Trackballs are cool, I've used em about a decade ago, but never really liked them.

Wrench will be here in a few days

I can't wait!:biggrin: The wait.....is WRENCHING.

 

[nwo]

I can't wait!:biggrin: The wait.....is WRENCHING.

I see what you did there :awe:

I can't wait either... After a couple of days of using the vertical mouse, I am getting used to it but it seems like my wrist pain has shifted from the middle of my wrist to the outer edge of the wrist :\

 

[Virgorising]

I see what you did there

Yes, lame, infantile humor not hard to spot. But for me, is very fun! (Including in such as editorial meetings, bite me.)

I can't wait either... After a couple of days of using the vertical mouse, I am getting used to it but it seems like my wrist pain has shifted from the middle of my wrist to the outer edge of the wrist

How could it be otherwise? this is about the daunting, humbling, thrilling reality of human anatomy!

And, nothing produced by man, however brilliant, will ever come close to the engineering of all living beings, including microorganisms.

You were simply, unwittingly, abrogating your engineering perfection. Soon, we will restore the integrated health of that, start honoring it.....over a little time, cause nature has its own timetable, you can't do system restore or right click on a file and send it to the BIN.

Nor, do we need to!!!!

 

[Morbus]

Better the outer edge. It's easier to avoid and it's more susceptible to anti-inflammatory creams and whatnot.

 

[nwo]

Better the outer edge. It's easier to avoid and it's more susceptible to anti-inflammatory creams and whatnot.

Yep, I agree. Outer edge should also be less prone to CTS. It's now the carpal bone that's bothering me (outer edge) rather than the ligament itself... It's an improvement which alone makes me want to keep the vertical mouse.

 

[Virgorising]

I see what you did there :awe:

I can't wait either... After a couple of days of using the vertical mouse, I am getting used to it but it seems like my wrist pain has shifted from the middle of my wrist to the outer edge of the wrist :\

Better the outer edge. It's easier to avoid and it's more susceptible to anti-inflammatory creams and whatnot.

Nothing short of nailing and fixing the underlying issue is worth ugatz.

 

[Virgorising]

Yep, I agree. Outer edge should also be less prone to CTS. It's now the carpal bone that's bothering me (outer edge) rather than the ligament itself... It's an improvement which alone makes me want to keep the vertical mouse.

Be in the moment... trying to live in the future does not work, forget is not necessary. Do the fix, divest yrself of the inadvertent prison....let things normalize organically.....and let yr body repair itself!

We are engineered to do that!!!!

 

[nwo]

Wrench arrived last night. Took it to my office today and removed the armrest. It's still not ergonomically perfect due to the fact that my mouse and keyboard are higher than they should be and the chair can't go high enough. But, it feels like an improvement so far!

 

[Virgorising]

Wrench arrived last night. Took it to my office today and removed the armrest. It's still not ergonomically perfect due to the fact that my mouse and keyboard are higher than they should be and the chair can't go high enough. But, it feels like an improvement so far!

Way! When email arrived I got excited! Congrats on getting this far in the freeing yrself from slammer journey!

But, sigh.....I did not anticipate desk might still be too high issue. Tell me, who made this desk? Who decided on and bought this desk? Some sadist cretin? Do your colleagues have desks at this height too?

What are the legs of this desk made of? Serious question. Does it have legs? OR.... IS THE DESK A FIXED PLATFORM IN A CUBICLE?

How much higher were you able to make the chair? Were you able to removed the actual arms and not just the arm rests? I wish I had a visual of this. If, after the removal, you were able to raise the chair to its maximum height---were you?---and the desk is still to high, that speaks volumes about the damn desk.....cause task chairs are engineered to WORK in even near standard setups!

What you managed (THEY SHOULD HAVE PUT THIS RIGHT) should TRULY help significantly and increasingly over time, tho we need to find a way of getting you STILL higher above the desk, OR, THE DESK LOWER. How about a big pillow? Like a couch pillow? I am not kidding.

My God even mid sized companies have purchasing agents who FACTOR IN this stuff.....given it centers on productivity....which is based on COMFORT.

Can you measure the distance between the floor on the top of this desk, pls?

I despise a clearly, entirely fine and decent human like you should even be having to deal with this, forget having to spend any money at all. Who runs this place?

You addressed wanting to avoid BUYING ANOTHER CHAIR. Does this mean this is your business and you would to pay for some part of yr office furniture?? I am kinda confused and it's important. Re determining next step.

 

[Virgorising]

Hold on.....was delving re desk heights and found this EXCELLENT PAGE via Princeton! Tho isn't it all obvious?

http://web.princeton.edu/sites/ehs/healthsafetyguide/A4.htm
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K....standard desk height is 30" Again, can you please measure yours and share the results?
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From another site I jus found:

Lower work surfaces by cutting off desk legs if necessary. If the work surface cannot be lowered, raise the chair to accommodate the user. If needed, provide a footrest to support the user's feet (Figure 7)


But, while we did not get this as it should be, totally, yet.....at least you are no longer being forced into a static position by the chair arms.
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I am upset and frustrated, and so, am on autopilot delving:

http://lifehacker.com/5727784/how-to-find-your-ideal-desk-height

Consider renting an axe or a chain saw. Kidding. but not entirely.:sneaky: Soooooooo wrong on so many levels you even had to endure this for as long as you felt U did.
I want to know the desk metrics.

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[Virgorising]

Sorry, I am upset cause I din see the DESK ISSUE COMING and so, on a Mission:

Some less expensive ergonomic task chairs are adjustable in height, many of them come with fixed height arm rests. This is a danger! They will affect the height of your computer. which affects the correct placement of your wrists leading to computer injuries.

If you must get an task chair, buy one that is height adjustable with NO armrests. Better yet, include one with lumbar support.
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Edit: I don know anyone personally who has carpal tunnel, but inflammatory issues are inflammatory issues. I would get some decent Omega 3 fish oil ......no harm at all, take double dose for two weeks......it should actually help beyond getting you out of the prison physically and getting you in a normal position... to reduce inflammation. And, I would so stay away from anti inflammatory "creams" as mentioned here.....esp actual steroids. They all have uber side effects and are bandaids.....sometimes necessary in the short term, but they do nothing good at all long term. Including topical stuff.
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Edit (the more indignant, pained i get, the more tenacious I become): Now, I am still focusing on the height of this stupid desk and dying to know the specifics re how it is made, etc, how high. if you are working for others, including someone clueless enough to have chosen this thng, I would so speak UP. Short of getting the AXE, the circular saw, the chain saw, I mean.
But, another, last ditch option I envisioned and then started to delve, would be a KB/Mouse platform you could screw into the bottom of this stupid desk. But then, I looked and the good ones are off the hook expensive. But I found this maybe garbage, affordable on one ebay....possibly made from handiwipes dipped in glue, I dunno.....but easy to install to try....just last resort; lowering the desk is the new focus.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cotytech-Re...085?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5d46e7eccd

Overstock is a huge, long established vendor.

But YOU, unless you work for yourself, should not be paying for ANY OF THIS! Or, when you do,you should get reimbursed!

 

[nwo]

What are the legs of this desk made of? Serious question. Does it have legs? OR.... IS THE DESK A FIXED PLATFORM IN A CUBICLE?

The desk has no legs. It is a fixed platform behind a front counter.

How much higher were you able to make the chair? Were you able to removed the actual arms and not just the arm rests? I wish I had a visual of this. If, after the removal, you were able to raise the chair to its maximum height---were you?

Not much to be honest, maybe about 2 inches... Yes, I removed the arm completely since it is all one piece. Yes, I was able to raise the chair to its maximum height after removing the arm. I also tried pressing down the release lever and tried pulling it up more manually, but this is as high as it goes

If I sit up straight in the chair it's fine... However, we all know that could cause substantially more harm than anything else over prolonged periods of time. But unfortunately the backrest is screwed up and the chair reclines every time. I think I might have to bust out the wallet and just buy a nice new chair.

How about a big pillow? Like a couch pillow?

:hmm: That actually sounds like a pretty good idea!

Can you measure the distance between the floor on the top of this desk, pls?

I'd have to dig up a measuring tape first, don't have one handy at work.

Who runs this place?

It's a family business :awe:

Does this mean this is your business and you would to pay for some part of yr office furniture?

Yep, pretty much ()

Thanks for the links, they were very helpful, especially this one which shows a picture of the correct typing posture. Just by simulating the posture, I get an incredible relief and can already tell it would make a tremendous difference in comfort.

I would get some decent Omega 3 fish oil

I take an Omega 3 fish oil supplement on a daily basis :awe:


So, I've come to the conclusion that the next 3 steps or alternative options I have are as follows:

Give pillows a try. If I am able to raise myself high enough, my thighs will hit the bottom of the desk and therefore the chair would no longer recline, but it would also not offer 100% back support either.

Purchase a new chair, again I don't think this would be an ideal solution since the desk's keyboard and mouse placement (on top of the desk) would still be an issue.

Relocate to a small PC desk in the back room. I think I might have to ultimately go with this one. But, before I do so, I might first try purchase and install a keyboard tray to go under this stupid desk. One of those you linked on ebay.

Ultimately, I think I would need to change both my chair and desk, since they are both screwing up my posture. Changing one won't solve the issue completely. For instance, if I change the desk and keep the chair, I will still lack back support because the chair recliner is messed up and it reclines way too easily. If I change the chair, then my mouse/keyboard will still not be in ergonomic alignment.

 

[Virgorising]

The desk has no legs. It is a fixed platform behind a front counter.

Sigh. That's what I was afraid of. Nothing wrong with those as long as they are designed and built by someone who GETS IT. The basics.

Not much to be honest, maybe about 2 inches... Yes, I removed the arm completely since it is all one piece. Yes, I was able to raise the chair to its maximum height after removing the arm. I also tried pressing down the release lever and tried pulling it up more manually, but this is as high as it goes

Sigh. Two inches better than nothing but so frustrating what should be simple is turning out to be daunting.....it seems, cause of whoever designed and built this "desk.'

If I sit up straight in the chair it's fine... However, we all know that could cause substantially more harm than anything else over prolonged periods of time. But unfortunately the backrest is screwed up and the chair reclines every time. I think I might have to bust out the wallet and just buy a nice new chair.

Backrest is screwed up! Blech! My concern would be, if you bought a new chair, because of the fixed height of the desk, it too might not elevate high enough to free you.

Yep, pretty much

Well.....that explains THAT part.

Quote: How about a big pillow? Like a couch pillow? That actually sounds like a pretty good idea!

Logical, no money, no brainer. Try it; you have nothing to loose and you would learn important things.

I'd have to dig up a measuring tape first, don't have one handy at work.

If you can find one....I think important to know the actual metric.

Thanks for the links, they were very helpful, especially this one which shows a picture of the correct typing posture. Just by simulating the posture, I get an incredible relief and can already tell it would make a tremendous difference in comfort.

Right? A pic is worth a thousand characters. Tho we conjure those in our heads too.

I take an Omega 3 fish oil supplement on a daily basis

Yay!!!!!

Give pillows a try. If I am able to raise myself high enough, my thighs will hit the bottom of the desk and therefore the chair would no longer recline, but it would also not offer 100% back support either

Again, yes, pillow worth trying. re back support, I just realized I always sit in this no arms task chair more to the front of the seat and never use the back support. As per the use of the Swiss Balance Ball....I think maybe it engages more organic, INTEGRATED balance and harmony of every part of the upper body. Not sure, I never thought about it before, I just take what is right for me for granted.

But I never have pain or fatigue of any kind. You must experiment and find what is right for YOU. But I still think any device which holds a human in a static position is BAHHHD. Be it a Cybex machine or a chair or anything related. Including, I just realized, during delivery of newborns! Also labor. Takes the orthodoxy forever to get and own the basics re our engineering.

Purchase a new chair, again I don't think this would be an ideal solution since the desk's keyboard and mouse placement (on top of the desk) would still be an issue.

Yes! As I said above somewhere.

Relocate to a small PC desk in the back room. I think I might have to ultimately go with this one. But, before I do so, I might first try purchase and install a keyboard tray to go under this stupid desk. One of those you linked on ebay.

Re relocating.....seems dramatic, where you work in a given environment matters. For some, isolation is a good thing; for others....not so much. If, for your work, you need to be in a given place say, to interact with others, that matters. If not.....hey.

Ultimately, I think I would need to change both my chair and desk, since they are both screwing up my posture. Changing one won't solve the issue completely. For instance, if I change the desk and keep the chair, I will still lack back support because the chair recliner is messed up and it reclines way too easily. If I change the chair, then my mouse/keyboard will still not be in ergonomic alignment.

Blech! Yes to all. Can you take whoever designed and built this thing to small claims court? Kidding. But not entirely. Maybe that person is OK building book shelves, but anything requiring kinesthetic acuity....NOT SO MUCH.

 

[Virgorising]

New thoughts:

OK.....instead of going on exhausting your fine self, and spending money to circumvent the reality of this abysmally engineered “desk”....maybe it would be good and pragmatic and even cost efficient… to find some local handyperson to just PUT IT RIGHT. Not only for you, tho you come first, but anyone trying to work at this thing would encounter the same stupid issues!

Way I now see this in my head, this is some laminated particleboard shelf. Would be no biggie to demolish it and replace it with something at a proper height.

Wherever U might live....bet there are some good handypersons dying for little projects of this sort!

If there is a crack/flaw in the foundation....that impacts everything. Terrible waste of lifeminutes trying to deal with the inevitable issues in any element above that. Again, bandaids. Restore the integrity of the foundation.

 

[nwo]

Eh, it would be too much trouble and downtime to rebuild the desk. Handyman in the area are only good for ripping people off and doing a crappy job at it.

I've noticed an improvement and so far it's not too bad. Whenever I start feeling a slight pain sensation, I just switch over to my laptop in the back.

 

[Virgorising]

Eh, it would be too much trouble and downtime to rebuild the desk. Handyman in the area are only good for ripping people off and doing a crappy job at it.

I've noticed an improvement and so far it's not too bad. Whenever I start feeling a slight pain sensation, I just switch over to my laptop in the back.

Hi, again.

Relieved but not surprised U are noticing improvement given what you have done.....but I wish you would not settle for less than you deserve.

I wish I cuold see a visual of this setup.....cause what is in my head anyone handy could fix if it is close to the reality.

Would need some tools, you could even rent those. First, a reciprocating/saber saw.

Can you share how the actual platform part connects with the vertical panel? And if the platform is also connected to 90 degree verticals at each end?

And can you share if this is laminated particle board? And if so, how thick the platform part is?

Surely you must have a ruler or a steel tape.....I have a thousand of each here. Kidding, but not completely.

 

[mcginnis]

I used my pc continuously and had horrible wrist and palm pain. I got this
http://www.exmed.net/p-3391-brown-m...ROA20128EACH&gclid=CN-t54Oyg70CFUdk7Aod-1UAaw

and that helped a whole bunch. Looks a little silly but it works.

 

[killster1]

http://www.amazon.com/Razer-Vespula-...=Razer+Vespula

i use razer exactmatXspeed for like 8 years? still works perfect like day one

razer vespula looks super cool too

dunno the diff between the expert and regular

http://www.amazon.com/Razer-Vespula...161745&sr=1-1-catcorr&keywords=razer+exactmat