Moved into our first house....

Josh123

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.....and the damn kitchen sink and bathtub plumbing is jacked. The bathroom toilet and sink work great but the kitchen sink and bathtub won't drain. I'm going to run to Lowes and pick up a snake today but what's the best way to go about and unclog it? Go down the sink drain and bathtub drain?

I've always been in an apartment so this will be my first house so any help would be awesome.
 
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moshquerade

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Ummm.... call the real estate agent, that's bs. it should've been disclosed before you bought it.
 

moshquerade

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I was planning to but would the seller be responsible since the inspector never reported it?
frickin inspector sucks ass, i would say that.

call the real estate agent and ask who is responsible. go from there.
 

msw1382

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It's a grey area...

If you can prove the seller knew about it then yes, they are liable. If you cannot prove it, then it's on you.


How long have you been in the house? Is the sink on the other side of the bathroom wall? It could be that they share a trap and all it needs is a snake.
 

Josh123

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It's a grey area...

If you can prove the seller knew about it then yes, they are liable. If you cannot prove it, then it's on you.


How long have you been in the house? Is the sink on the other side of the bathroom wall? It could be that they share a trap and all it needs is a snake.

We closed last Wednesday and have been staying over there but never used the kitchen sink since we didn't have dishes. This weekend we actually moved everything over and cleaned the kitchen up and had to use the kitchen sink. The kitchen sink is about 10 feet in front of the bathtub. I went outside yesterday to check the drain running outside the house and the flow looks great for the toilet and bathroom sink but there is little to no flow flow from the kitchen sink/bathtub.
 

moshquerade

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It's a grey area...

If you can prove the seller knew about it then yes, they are liable. If you cannot prove it, then it's on you.


How long have you been in the house? Is the sink on the other side of the bathroom wall? It could be that they share a trap and all it needs is a snake.
If the seller had been living there how would they NOT know that the kitchen sink and the bathtub didn't drain. They never used them? That is bullshit.
 

valtopps

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im a plumber, your tub is got hair in the drain. first thing i do is unscrew the 2 screws that on top of your waste and overflow. next pull that strait up. now clean the gunk and hair. now put it back together. let me know if this didnt work.

now for the kitchen sink check the basket strainers make sure theres no food or anything blocking it. next unscrew one of the p-traps see if thats clean. now run a snake down there.

the problem with house inspectors they know a little bit about everything an not enough about anything.
good luck, if it dont work call a plumber we got to eat too.
 
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dullard

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Valtopps got it right.

But, I think the blame has to go around here. Sure, the sellers knew of it. But who pays thousands and thousands of dollars for a house without first checking all of the water lines (hot, cold, and drains) at all locations? Also, you should never trust an inspector as most of them are worthless, they just want your money and may not have even gone in the house.
 

Josh123

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im a plumber, your tub is got hair in the drain. first thing i do is unscrew the 2 screws that on top of your waste and overflow. next pull that strait up. now clean the gunk and hair. now put it back together. let me know if this didnt work.

now for the kitchen sink check the basket strainers make sure theres no food or anything blocking it. next unscrew one of the p-traps see if thats clean. now run a snake down there.

the problem with house inspectors they know a little bit about everything an not enough about anything.
good luck, if it dont work call a plumber we got to eat too.

Thanks man, I'll give that a shot after work today if the real estate agent says I'm SOL.
 

Uppsala9496

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What does the paperwork from the inspector state? It's been about 9 years, but I recall the inspector I had was held liable for anything missed (plumbing, electrical, etc) for a certain period of time.
 

apac

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Thanks man, I'll give that a shot after work today if the real estate agent says I'm SOL.

I wouldn't bother with the agent. You closed on the house - IMO you can't really go complaining about little things that may be wrong, after the fact. When I bought my place I noticed in the 2nd week that one of the toilets started leaking. $140 later the plumber fixed it. I just wrote it off as one of the costs of a new homeowner. If it's something far more serious and obvious, like mold growing in the walls and covered with new drywall, then it's worth pursuing the seller. Otherwise it's probably not worth your time.

If I were a selling agent and a buyer came to me, after close, and told me about a problem like yours or mine, I'd play the "We had no knowledge of that problem" card all the way to the bank.
 

spacejamz

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Valtopps got it right.

But, I think the blame has to go around here. Sure, the sellers knew of it. But who pays thousands and thousands of dollars for a house without first checking all of the water lines (hot, cold, and drains) at all locations? Also, you should never trust an inspector as most of them are worthless, they just want your money and may not have even gone in the house.

I would have never known to do this...I bought my first house in 2003 when I was 33...It was a brand new house (not sure if it was a spec home or if the original buyers backed out)...I had no idea of what all should be checked, so I hired an inspector which cost me $200 (was a 2000 sq ft home)...he ran all of the faucets for about 10 minutes to make sure everything drained properly...

Seriously, how would someone who has lived in apartments for their entire life before buying a home know to do this???

He also checked out the HVAC, the roof, and a bunch of other stuff...he also have me some good advice on other stuff...

Was definitely worth it for a homeowner newb...
 

apac

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Valtopps got it right.

But, I think the blame has to go around here. Sure, the sellers knew of it. But who pays thousands and thousands of dollars for a house without first checking all of the water lines (hot, cold, and drains) at all locations? Also, you should never trust an inspector as most of them are worthless, they just want your money and may not have even gone in the house.

I disagree about the value of a qualified engineer. Your agent should be able to recommend a good inspector for you to use. The guy I used was very thorough - spent 2-3 hours with me going through everything in the house. I made sure to ask questions and point out anything that looked questionable, to get his opinion.

Used him twice @ $400 each, and passed on the first house based on his report. Well worth the money when you're dropping 6 figures on a house.
 

Josh123

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did you buy home warranty? its worth it for the first year...got my AC fixed.

i got this one. http://www.hwahomewarranty.com/

my agent advised, just in case the seller didn't disclosed other problems with the house...

Ya we purchased the home warranty. I'm prepared to do the work to fix the problem. This being my first house I wasn't really sure what flys once the purchase is complete. If the agent calls back and says no dice, then oh well.
 
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suuuuuuuuuuuucks. your inspector that is. should have ran all the faucets and checked all the drains. at this point i think you are SOL from a real estate POV. IANAP so cant help you with the clogs.
 

SandEagle

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Home warranty typicallt covers plumbing. Also, NEVER go with a home inspector that was recommended by your real estate agent. Always get an independent inspector.
 

valtopps

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why is everyone making a big deal about a drain running slow? this is such a minor problem. i can see if the furnace isnt working or the roof is leaking. relax its no big deal. your going to have many little problem being a home owner. heres some good advise research the problem and try to repair them yourself, if you cant do it then call a professional.

things to own a plunger, screw drivers, pliers, flashlight, fire extinguisher and wd-40.
 
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rivan

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why is everyone making a big deal about a drain running slow? this is such a minor problem. i can see if the furnace isnt working or the roof is leaking. relax its no big deal. your going to have many little problem being a home owner. heres some good advise research the problem and try to repair them yourself, if you cant do it then call a professional.

things to own a plunger, screw drivers, pliers, flashlight, fire extinguisher and wd-40.

This.

Check for minor clogs - assuming they're backing up fairly quickly, the clogs will be close to the drain.

I'll add one thing: if you don't have a removable drain in the tub (cheap fucks) check out the $2 zip-it.

www.zipitclean.com
 

moshquerade

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why is everyone making a big deal about a drain running slow? this is such a minor problem. i can see if the furnace isnt working or the roof is leaking. relax its no big deal. your going to have many little problem being a home owner. heres some good advise research the problem and try to repair them yourself, if you cant do it then call a professional.

things to own a plunger, screw drivers, pliers, flashlight, fire extinguisher and wd-40.
sure, but why should he have to put time/money into something that rightly should have been working already?

it looks like he's handling it, but someone knowledgeably played a little dirty pool at his expense.
 

dullard

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Seriously, how would someone who has lived in apartments for their entire life before buying a home know to do this???
I figure it was common sense to either know to do it or to know to ask someone what to do when buying a house. If you buy anything expensive, you look for flaws before buying. It shouldn't matter if it were a house or a car or whatever. I hope you wouldn't buy a used car without a test drive. Same goes with a house. Test it.

There are only a few things that you can test (like the plumbing). So, do them. A good inspector only does what a careful layperson should do. Check out things that you would care about. Does hot air reach the bedroom when you turn on the furnace? What about cold air with the AC? Try both, because you'll want both to work when you have the house. Do the toilets work? Are the walls straight? Is there obvious water damage (discoloration, bubbles, etc)? Are their cracks in the exposed floor joists or the foundation? Is the siding/roofing on tight or is it coming off? Is the carpet attached to the floor or is it just lazilly flopped over a rotten subfloor? Is the floor bowing underneath you as you walk? Is furniture covering a problem spot? Etc.

No inspector can pull off sheetrock and look at real problems. They can only look for surface issues. And you can do that too pretty easilly if you just spend an hour in each room. You should want to do it since you are the one forking over $100k - $1M for your first house.

Even if you think you have a good inspector, you should do it all yourself too. That way, you can be confident with the inspector's report. That way you can catch what the inspector WILL miss (like the plumbing in the OP's case). That way, you know what to do in your final walkthrough for problems that the inspector couldn't see (such as what was underneath furniture).
 
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