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werepossum

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The whole premise of Idiocracy was that those with the least resources and least education have the most children until they crowd out the one, two (or no) children of the more educated and wealthy. If you want try to compare that to today's election I seriously doubt the first demographic will ever vote Republican in great numbers.
Maybe not, depending on the definition of great numbers, but a fair number of the economic underclass vote Republican based on social issues. In the same way, plenty of the "more educated and wealthy" vote Democrat because of social values. (Besides those who vote Democrat because they are in government or academia and their livelihoods depend on big-spending government.) It's a reasonable assumption for a book or movie if one overlooks that people vote based on reasons other than just pure economic status, but even then, poor people (especially immigrants who have not yet adopted our entitlement mentality) are sometimes the people most determined to get a good, marketable, useful education.
 

Azuma Hazuki

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In regards to Blue Max's suppurating, oozing ignorance...here's a huge middle finger on behalf of my trans* friends, including and especially the ones who died because of people saying and doing shit like you, Maxie. They're going to be waiting for you in the next world with weapons drawn...

Regarding Idiocracy: as has been pointed out above, it's actually far too optimistic, because Camacho knew he was an idiot, and genuinely wanted to find the most able-minded people to fix the problems. Would heaven the real world worked this way; no, instead, as Dunning and Kruger pointed out, the incompetent does not and cannot know he is incompetent, because roughly the same skills are needed to diagnose an incorrect answer as to come up with a correct one.

Or, put another way, "the best lack all conviction, and the worst are full of passionate intensity." The words of the prophets are written on the subway walls, indeed...
 

gamervivek

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Sometimes xkcd are the ones wrong on the internet.

The whole premise of Idiocracy was that those with the least resources and least education have the most children until they crowd out the one, two (or no) children of the more educated and wealthy. If you want try to compare that to today's election I seriously doubt the first demographic will ever vote Republican in great numbers.

Something new under the sun.

Yet in their[Jews] political attitudes, they are overwhelmingly liberal-to-radical and this despite the general rule of political behavior that the higher a group stands in status, income and education, the more it tends to prefer a conservative to a liberal philosophy. Thus, despite the fact that the intellectual community in the United States has in recent years tended to be preponderantly liberal, a majority of college graduates has consistently supported the Republican Party and taken a conservative stance on most controversial domestic issues. This was partially confirmed, as far as education is concerned, in the wake of Senator Goldwater's 1964 presidential defeat one that gave the Republican Party a smaller proportion of the total popular vote than it had obtained in any of the previous six presidential contests. Even after this massive setback, one segment of the population remained loyal to the GOP according to the evidence of public opinion polls. That last steadfast group was the college-bred, the element which William James considered the only true American aristocracy.

http://racehist.blogspot.com/2015/04/the-jew-in-american-politics-part-1.html

White male college grads still lean Republican despite american academia becoming a liberal echo chamber.
 

gamervivek

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Have you ever been to college?

Why do you ask?


So?
Too many college graduates today and most of them women since the 80s. Single women already lean Democrat so it's not a surprise exactly besides of course this is nothing new under the sun:

How could
one understand that archconservative American businessmen have sent
their sons and especially their daughters to institutions of learning
equally well known for their exorbitant rates and their extreme leftism,
a leftism pertaining to politics, history, philosophy, economics-and
morals? How often do well-paid Marxists in such places indirectly and
even directly tell intellectually innocent maidens-at their hard-toiling
fathers' expense-that their procreators are real scoundrels and blood-
suckers? Yet the hard-toiling fathers know all this and both parents
accept this state of affairs with a sigh: it is, after all, the "proper thing
to do" to provide the dear little thing with a highbrow education in
a college with high social rating and to acquaint her with all "advanced
ideas." They might hope that, once safely married to an equally hard-
working stockbroker, the good girl would wake up from sweet leftist
dreams and end up as secretary of the local Women's Republican Club.
One apparently has to leave "brains," "ideas," and "new vistas"
to those budding leftist eggheads (even if they stand badly in need of
a haircut). How, otherwise, can one explain the fact that newspaper
owners, editors-in-chief, or radio station proprietors, who have safely
overcome their adolescent flirtations with leftism, again and again
employ wildly leftist reporters, columnists, and commentators?

- Leftism: from de Sade and Marx to Hitler and Marcuse, 1974

It also ties in with Idiocracy because the high IQ women have a lower fertility rate.
 

hal2kilo

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Why do you ask?



So?
Too many college graduates today and most of them women since the 80s. Single women already lean Democrat so it's not a surprise exactly besides of course this is nothing new under the sun:



- Leftism: from de Sade and Marx to Hitler and Marcuse, 1974

It also ties in with Idiocracy because the high IQ women have a lower fertility rate.
Hitler a leftist. Is that what they teach in alt land?
 

gamervivek

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Not sure because there are many factions but there is certainly a 'fact' in the lala land that Hitler was a far righty loon.
 

dainthomas

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Mike Judge and Etan Cohen (one of Idiocracy's writers) were putting together anti Trump ads with Terry Crews but Fox wouldn't sign off on it and they own the writes to Idiocracy. Sad, I'm sure they would have been hilarious.

Fox fails again. What a shock.
 

gamervivek

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You talk a lot about college/education for someone who doesn't look to have seen much of it.

I talk a lot about college? Have you been keeping score?

I've ceratinly not seen much of American academia.And I'm thankful for it.

Hitler's ideological opponents were communists, which I guess are the real far right loonies.

Stalin banned abortion, in a few years he'd be a far right loon as well I suppose if not already.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ii4AThJVMdA
 

agent00f

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I talk a lot about college? Have you been keeping score?

I've ceratinly not seen much of American academia.And I'm thankful for it.

You're literally going on about the white college grad vote & such above, as if that's your institution.

Stalin banned abortion, in a few years he'd be a far right loon as well I suppose if not already.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ii4AThJVMdA

The nazi party was the white nationalist opposing rival of the rather more inclusive communists in germany. But in all fairness knowledge isn't really your thing.
 
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MongGrel

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Hitler a leftist. Is that what they teach in alt land?

I'll get blasted I'm sure, but Hitler was a serious Socialist.

And rebuilt Germany at a fast rate after WW1. He did that at the time, without a doubt.

He was still a psycho.
 

agent00f

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I'll get blasted I'm sure, but Hitler was a serious Socialist.

And rebuilt Germany at a fast rate after WW1. He did that at the time, without a doubt.

He was still a psycho.

He was such a dedicated socialist that he considered this primary enemy "Marxism and the Jew", and as you might be aware he was really not fond of jews. It must be one of those things where you overload the meter and it rolls back around to 0.
 
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werepossum

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I'll get blasted I'm sure, but Hitler was a serious Socialist.

And rebuilt Germany at a fast rate after WW1. He did that at the time, without a doubt.

He was still a psycho.
Certainly he was a serious Socialist in his early reign. He had to be; all the momentum was on the left end of the political spectrum, and no one on the right had any chance to gain power. After he achieved power, he showed what all dictators show - that when you have total power, left and right become meaningless.
 
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agent00f

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Certainly he was a serious Socialist in his early reign. He had to be; all the momentum was on the left end of the political spectrum, and no one on the right had any chance to gain power. After he achieved power, he showed what all dictators show - that when you have total power, left and right become meaningless.

He was a military spy sent to report on & possibly disrupt a group opposed to the socialization of germany, which he ended up co-opting to fully oppose marxism. If only there existed books about what happened in history and not just white nationalist blogs.
 

Blue_Max

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reeeeeeeeally pushing that "white nationalist" narrative there... sure you got the accusation right? Or are you just hurling it at anyone that crosses your path in hopes it sticks to someone and you can have yourself a hangin'?
 

agent00f

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reeeeeeeeally pushing that "white nationalist" narrative there... sure you got the accusation right? Or are you just hurling it at anyone that crosses your path in hopes it sticks to someone and you can have yourself a hangin'?

Nobody would accuse parrots of being bright enough to come up with their own revisionist history.
 

Blue_Max

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Nobody would accuse parrots of being bright enough to come up with their own revisionist history.

Right.... well, you just let us know when you can actually back up anything you have to say with some verifiable data instead of wild accusations.
 

agent00f

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Right.... well, you just let us know when you can actually back up anything you have to say with some verifiable data instead of wild accusations.

I wonder why the beliefs expressed mirror simple right wing breitbart type talking points about race. "If white people can't have their own clubs the ethnics can't either". Must be some kind of coincidence.
 
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