Moving to the EU, some questions on electronics

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feralkid

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Games, TV shows, and broadcasts in Europe and PAL regions are typically 50fps. A hold over because CRT TVs sync with the frequency of the input power. The exact same reason why our content in USA / Japan and other NTSC regions is produced and broadcast in 60fps.

So, are we talking Hertz or Frames?


I believe both issues have been addressed.
 
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flexy

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I honestly don't think/doubt that PAL/NTSC still plays any role when everything is digital.
Besides, correct me if I am wrong, I would be highly surprised if your LG TV which is newer than my Samsung Plasma would not support both. MOST TVs built-in tuners can handle PAL/SECAM/NTSC, mine does. I would look in your setup menu respective manual, I cannot see any modern TV just supporting one standard.

(I was just looking up some random LG 55" TVs, they all support ALL standards. It would TBH be really absurd if a modern TV comes with all sorts of gimmicks, smart-this-or-that but couldn't auto-switch between TV standards...)
 
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JimmiG

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I still don't see how it matters. If I hook my computer up to my TV, it can display anywhere from <1 FPS to 60 FPS with no problems. It all depends on the computer. The same should apply to a TV signal IMO. I could be wrong, but I just don't see how 25 vs 30 FPS matters in the age of digital TV's and 120 hz...Although I guess you'd have to try it to be sure. Anyway I absolutely cannot see how an external box connected via HDMI would fail to work. AFAIK, there are no separate "PAL HDMI" and "NTSC HDMI" standards.
 

quikah

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I have no idea if the TV will work. Here is a UK version of a similar LG TV (as best I can guess anyway):

http://www.lg.com/uk/tvs/lg-55LE5900-led-tv

notice it is 100Hz, 100/4 = 25, the US version is 120Hz, 120/4 = 30. I am not sure if a 120Hz TV can properly display the 25fps that a DVB-T STB will produce. If you get a DVB-T tuner for your PC, it MIGHT be able to convert to 30fps. You might want to ask on a dedicated hometheater forums like avsforum.com
 

CZroe

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So, are we talking Hertz or Frames?


I believe both issues have been addressed.
Not frames: Fields. SDTV is interlaced. Each frame is two interlaced fields. You get 50 fields per second at PAL 50hz.

...and: NO. supporting 50hz 240v power does not mean it will support a 50hz video signal.
 

CZroe

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I still don't see how it matters. If I hook my computer up to my TV, it can display anywhere from <1 FPS to 60 FPS with no problems. It all depends on the computer. The same should apply to a TV signal IMO. I could be wrong, but I just don't see how 25 vs 30 FPS matters in the age of digital TV's and 120 hz...Although I guess you'd have to try it to be sure. Anyway I absolutely cannot see how an external box connected via HDMI would fail to work. AFAIK, there are no separate "PAL HDMI" and "NTSC HDMI" standards.
Are you kidding? The signals are completely different. Everything from color encoding to the number of lines drawn (50hz allows more resolution per pass). They are very different video signals. It isn't just an FPS thing except where we now have 480p/30, 540p/25, 1080p/30, 1080p/60, etc. In Europe you are much more likely to encounter something like 1080p/50. If your TV doesn't understand that signal, it doesn't understand that signal. It would be considered a non-standard signal for some televisions.
 
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