Mozilla FireFox 0.9.1 Out Today - FREE

[Farbio]

anyone had any problems on a laptop with the scroll wheel? worked fine in ie and in 0.9, but doesn't seem to want to work in 0.9.1. anyone else have problems like this?

 

[AlexPton]

I love mozilla!

i think two things people forgot to mention in addition to tabbed browsing, better default settings for security, etc. are:

1) it uses gecko! fastest rendering engine out there! way better than IE's

2) custom keywords WITH the ability to embed javascript in bookmarks! this is the most powerful feature of mozilla in my opinion. opera last time i checked only had custom keywords, no embedded javascript in the bookmarks. IE doesn't even have custom keywords.

 

[Slogun]

Originally posted by: AlexPton
I love mozilla!

i think two things people forgot to mention in addition to tabbed browsing, better default settings for security, etc. are:

1) it uses gecko! fastest rendering engine out there! way better than IE's

2) custom keywords WITH the ability to embed javascript in bookmarks! this is the most powerful feature of mozilla in my opinion. opera last time i checked only had custom keywords, no embedded javascript in the bookmarks. IE doesn't even have custom keywords.

So, what's that mean, embedded java in bookmarks?

 

[sapiens74]

I love Firefox, use it on my PC and MAC

 

[k124]

awesome, thanks dealindude!
anybody know how to make it default to opening a new tab instead of a new instance when i click on a link?...

:edit: http://update.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?application=firefox&id=50&vid=53

 

[dvinnen]

Originally posted by: Slogun

Originally posted by: AlexPton
I love mozilla!

i think two things people forgot to mention in addition to tabbed browsing, better default settings for security, etc. are:

1) it uses gecko! fastest rendering engine out there! way better than IE's

2) custom keywords WITH the ability to embed javascript in bookmarks! this is the most powerful feature of mozilla in my opinion. opera last time i checked only had custom keywords, no embedded javascript in the bookmarks. IE doesn't even have custom keywords.

So, what's that mean, embedded java in bookmarks?

To see and example of the embedded javascript, check out the pornzilla site:

pornzilla

(though it sounds bad, it is a clean site, no pics at all. Just a site that lists helpful extensions and stuff.)

Not sure what the keyword thing is though.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Originally posted by: Rogue
I myself prefer a single toolbar in my browser window. Until Firefox makes the toolbars as customizable as IE, it's still not perfect to me. I want to be able to move the entire navigation bar up on the same row as the Menu bar. All that wasted space up there on my 1600x1200!

Hmm. I thought that you could do that. At least, I know that you can place command icons on the same toolbar row as the menu bar.

After File|Edit|View|Go|Bookmarks|Tools|Help, I have a sep, then "open new tab" and "Open new Window" icons, and then a sep, then "Bookmarks", "History" "Downloads" icon, then sep, then "Cut", "Copy", "Paste", then sep, then "Print", auto-sizing spacer, then the search (google) box, then the throbber icon.

The next toolbar, I have "Back", "Forward", "Reload", "Stop", "Go", and then the Location box. I took the "Home" button off, as useless as it is.

Have you tried right-clicking on a blank area on one of the toolbars, and selecting "Customize"? Try it.

 

[Slogun]

Originally posted by: dvinnen

Originally posted by: Slogun

Originally posted by: AlexPton
I love mozilla!

i think two things people forgot to mention in addition to tabbed browsing, better default settings for security, etc. are:

1) it uses gecko! fastest rendering engine out there! way better than IE's

2) custom keywords WITH the ability to embed javascript in bookmarks! this is the most powerful feature of mozilla in my opinion. opera last time i checked only had custom keywords, no embedded javascript in the bookmarks. IE doesn't even have custom keywords.

So, what's that mean, embedded java in bookmarks?

To see and example of the embedded javascript, check out the pornzilla site:

pornzilla

(though it sounds bad, it is a clean site, no pics at all. Just a site that lists helpful extensions and stuff.)

Not sure what the keyword thing is though.

Oh, I see now, that's cool.

I added zoomed images in and out to my toolbar.

Thx.

 

[Imyourzero]

Originally posted by: DealinDude
People still use that? 2048x1536 here. But then again, I'm running an X800 XT ($350) and a 24" CRT.

What a stupid statement. No offense intended at all, and thanks for the tips, but you should know that the VAST majority of PC users do not run 24" displays. I'd say if you conducted a poll, most people are using 17"-19" displays.

I guess I'll stick with my "sucky" 20.1" Dell LCD with its piss-poor 16x12 res.

 

[ABErickson]

To get inline autocomplete to work (like IE has) do the following:

Type about:config in the address bar and hit return.

A whole list of parameters will pop up.

Go down to browser.urlbar.autoFill , double click on it, set it to True, and you're good to go.

 

[chuckyH]

no one has answered the question about importing bookmarks. mine crashed whenever I try to import them from ie to firefox

 

[unclebud]

this is really ironic... i was on a friend's computer today (showing him the cc deal) and he was using firefox
it was doing some funny stuff, but i don't know if it was the razer mouse, the app, or user error
anybody know if the browser allows east asian text input and viewing? we went to genki's page and couldn't really see anything... tia

 

[theNEOone]

w00t


=|

 

[Wingerr]

Originally posted by: chuckyH
no one has answered the question about importing bookmarks. mine crashed whenever I try to import them from ie to firefox

I had the same problems with 98SE, and only got it to import after unchecking all the other items. Might try that just to see if that makes a difference. Guess it's choking on one of those options.
Worked without crashing on XP, even with all the items checked.

 

[Morpheux]

Bump cause I'm seein Liz tomorrow =)

 

[Staples]

We see like a new release every week and a new thread about it. Are they really necessary? The weekly releases just contain a few bug fixes and that is all, no new features.

Better than IE?
More secure: yes
More userfrindly: no
More plug in support: No
Faster: No

I think IE wins by a pretty big margin. I told my brothers to use Firefox because they always go to 5000b websites that hack IE and install crap but for me, I will continue to use IE, I have no had a problem with it in several years. I run Adaware and never have crap installed on the PC. So basically, Mozilla is the fool proof browser for noobs who do not know how to avoid Active X confirmation boxes that will not go away until you install the adware.

 

[FunkierThanU]

Originally posted by: gluck

Originally posted by: Slogun

Originally posted by: gluck
Can anyone tell me how firefox is better or more secure that IE ?

With this week's reports (LINK)of new IE vulnerabilities that allow infected websites to glean financial password info and for which Microsoft has no fix in sight, it is being widely recommended that computer users switch browsers.
I have been very happy with IE functionality till now, but finally installed Firefox last night.

Looking for info on how to manage the "Bookmarks" to my liking.

Man last night I had a spyware attack my PC. Crap it scared the hell out of me. Took 2 hrs still not out. I have to devote another couple of hours before I have sound sleeps. I am in for FIrefox then

Some of that crap is so bad, about the only way out besides a rebuild is jumping to a pre-infestation Restore Point. You do have XP, right?

Firefox rox!

 

[agent2099]

Originally posted by: DefDC
Small footprint, built-in pop-up blocker, tabbed browsing... Really, once you start using it, nothing else compares.

Umm. IE has a pretty small footprint. It loads instantly on my 2ghz machine and I can have a million browsers open and my system is still fast. I never felt like IE was bloated like using AOL or MSN.

 

[FunkierThanU]

Originally posted by: Stanman
OK I installed it and it seems like a great browser but when I go to a site that opens a window with media player for streeming video nothing happens. All you anti-IE guys help me out please.

I think the pop up blocker is actually what's stopping this.

Go to 'Option' > 'Web Features' and add in the URL of the site that should be starting the streaming.



Could be wrong, Firefox is still technically a beta, tho' a very good one IMHO.

 

[JeffMD]

I also rescently converted to firefox due to IE's constent barrage of new exploits every week. So far im pretty impressed. I quickly loaded in adblocker (VERY nice, while it does require manual selecting of ad's, I easily modify the filter for wildcarding and never see an add for that page again. also i've blocked entier ad services like doubleclick and it blocks ad's on many pages), tabbed window 1.0, and the view in IE.

Speed wise. the load up time might be longer, but thats like.. 2 seconds compared to 1 second for ie. Neither loads fast if windows has been running for a while and swap file is activly being used. how ever IE usualy dosnt bother displaying a page untill half of it is allready downloaded, and it wont display multi pass images untill they are fully downloaded. Firefox displays the html as soon as it starts downloading, and images are displayd as they are downloaded. So while there is no speed difference in loading a full page, firefox blows away ie in what you see before the page fully loads. Also sites with lots of flash and javascript like unrealplanet initialise faster in firefox for me.

so far ive run into one non ie unfriendly page, and it was some guys misc anime site I had clicked on while doing google searches for a wallpaper.

BTW dont worry about uninstalling IE. Any program claiming to uninstalling it is really just killing a few files allowing you to have no access to it. This does not get rid of the exploitable code, and IE is just a part of explorer, which is pretty much your interface in windows. The window that allows you to disable media player and IE in the latest service packs from MS do the same in a non destrcutive way. but anyways, you will actually want IE around for those bad pages that have crappy html.

 

[comat0se]

Originally posted by: VirtualLarry

Originally posted by: Rogue
I myself prefer a single toolbar in my browser window. Until Firefox makes the toolbars as customizable as IE, it's still not perfect to me. I want to be able to move the entire navigation bar up on the same row as the Menu bar. All that wasted space up there on my 1600x1200!

Hmm. I thought that you could do that. At least, I know that you can place command icons on the same toolbar row as the menu bar.

Yep, this is possible. Just right click on some empty space on the toolbar and select customize. Drag everything to the top bar. Click done. Right click on some empty space again. Then uncheck the Navigation toolbar, and Bookmarks toolbar, to hide the now empty bars.

Done... what else do you need?

 

[VirtualLarry]

Originally posted by: Staples
We see like a new release every week and a new thread about it. Are they really necessary? The weekly releases just contain a few bug fixes and that is all, no new features.

Better than IE?
More secure: yes
More userfrindly: no
More plug in support: No
Faster: No

I really want to know how in the world you think that??

As far as user-friendly aspects go, Firefox has so many plugins, that do so many nifty things, it is a heck of a lot easier to use than IE. Heck, supporting tabbed browsing and integrated pop-up blocking alone, should make it more friendly than IE. But thankfully, Firefox doesn't stop there. It also has quite a few nice themes, too.

IMO, both Firefox and Opera have it all over IE, in the usability dept.

(In fact, screenshots of early IE 7 betas from Longhorn.. like amazingly like Firefox! Even the download manager looks like it was ripped-off from Firefox. In fact, the entire UI scripting language being used in Longhorn, was based, in principle, on XUL, Firefox/Mozilla's scripted UI language. So then, why again is MS "borrowing" design elements from Mozilla, if it is so much worse than IE? One might conclude that it is in fact better, if MS has to rip them off for their "new" OS.)

As far as plug-ins go - technically speaking, Firefox/Mozilla have more plug-in support, because IE no longer even has plug-in support. But I'm going to assume that you were speaking in the more general sense, comparing IE's ActiveX controls for external (to the browser core) media types, vs. FireFox/Mozilla plug-ins that do the same. With regards to those - Firefox/Mozilla support all of the major media types used on the internet, Acrobat reader, Macromedia Flash/Shockwave, Sun Java, Apple Quicktime, Microsoft Windows Media, ... etc. I think those are the major ones anyway. Even better, you have control over them, and the plug-in feature isn't an insane security risk.

As far as speed goes, from my perspective, Firefox is overall much faster than IE, on all of the machines that I've used it on, at least on modern machines. Firefox does take a good amount of RAM though, after running for some time, so on really low-end systems, I actually recommend staying with IE3.02, that's the only version of IE that is lightweight enough to be faster than Firefox on ancient systems. I run that on my B&W 486-SX20 laptop, with image-loading turned off.

If you are making the claim that IE is somehow faster, just because it seemingly opens the first window "instantly", well that's because IE is loaded along with the OS itself when it boots, meaning that it's always loaded, and always taking up valuable RAM, even when you aren't browsing the internet. Plus, on a modern system, the difference in loading speed is only 1-2 seconds, tops.

If you mean that actual browsing and usage is faster, then I think that's a toss-up, really. Firefox/Mozilla supports HTTP 1.1/pipelining/keep-alive features, whilst IE only supports their own proprietary method of keep-alive. However, I will concede that IE's cache lookups of previously-downloaded page data are faster than Firefox/Mozilla's, primarily because Firefox/Mozilla is cross-platform, and so relies on ordinary filesystem lookups, while IE is "integrated" in the OS, so it can use the OS's cache-manager and other Windows-specific features in a proprietary way to make cache lookups faster. That also has a downside, it's very difficult to totally and completely erase IE's cache information, whereas it's all in one directory that you can easily delete in Firefox/Mozilla.

Originally posted by: Staples
I think IE wins by a pretty big margin. I told my brothers to use Firefox because they always go to 5000b websites that hack IE and install crap

Originally posted by: Staples
but for me, I will continue to use IE

I guess some people just like self-punishment. :| How can I argue against that?

Originally posted by: Staples
, I have no had a problem with it in several years. I run Adaware and never have crap installed on the PC.

Hmm. You must have been browsing with ActiveX and JavaScript completely disabled then, because that's the only way to avoid the problems that people have been having. Do you still think that IE is more user-friendly or usable than Firefox, running under that condition? Every web site that I've gone to, in recent memory, requires some minimal JavaScript support. ("Active Scripting" in MS parlance.)

Originally posted by: Staples
So basically, Mozilla is the fool proof browser for noobs who do not know how to avoid Active X confirmation boxes that will not go away until you install the adware.

That's the first time that I've ever heard Mozilla being characterized as a "browser for n00bs". Most of the time, it is the technically savvy and early-adopter/power-user crowd that uses Mozilla. The real n00bs don't even know that there is such a thing as an alternative browser, they think that "IE is the internet".

Btw, you do remember several major IE exploits, that could run arbitrary code on your machine, even by only bringing up the ActiveX security confirmation dialog box, right? Meaning, even if you clicked "no", it was too late, you could have already been infected/exploited. "Internet Explorer Security", is a joke and an oxymoron. Even the federal gov't cybersecurity guys have started to strongly suggest using a different web browser. You know the situation has gotten bad, when it actually motivates the beauracrats to take action.

Have fun using IE. I suggest reformatting often, and changing credit card numbers, for your own safety.

Edit: Recently found this article, on MSN's Slate site, talking about how Firefox is better than Internet Explorer. (All the more ironic, since Microsoft owns Slate!)

 

[mdcrab]

Nice browser. Saw this thread the other day, and decided to give it a try. Loads fast. Imports all of the settings from MSIE.

Only small problem is that there isn't a Google Toolbar that works with Mozilla, a minor inconvenience.

mdcrab

 

[VirtualLarry]

mdcrab, check these links out:

http://googlebar.mozdev.org/
http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/doron/archives/003718.html
http://update.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?application=firefox&id=33&vid=34

 

[Clocker]

This browser was fun to use but there was some incompatible issues with serveral sites I visit. Hopefully in a few more revisions, these isssues will be addressed.

BTW the sites i visit are law related and military and for some reason they work well in IE but not mozilla. I suspect these older websites may have been designed exclusively for explorer.