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Apr 29, 2004
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Originally posted by: chuckyH
no one has answered the question about importing bookmarks. mine crashed whenever I try to import them from ie to firefox

I had a similar problem, but simply worked around it by choosing to import favorites only.

Import Wizard
File -> Import... -> Select Microsoft Internet Explorer Radio button -> Press Next Button -> ONLY select the Favorites check box -> Press Next Button -> Press Finish Button

BTW, here is a nice little FireFox add-in here that will sort your Bookmarks/Favorites alphabetically:

Firefox : Tips : Sorting Bookmarks Alphabetically

Also for those looking for Google Bar functionality:
GoogleBar Clone for FireFox

Just for reference, I am now using Mozilla FireFox as my default browser.

-LS
 

Staples

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Oct 28, 2001
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VirtualLarry, I would probably use Mozilla but since I only visit a select few websites and when I google, I do not visit underground websites (or porn), so I have always had good luck with IE. When you install Mozilla, you do not have ActiveX installers for every plug in and video does not work. You have to tinker with everything to get it to work as well at IE does out of the box. It is a good browser but because the net is made for IE, there are a few webpages that do not work right with its rendering engine. As for now, IE works well for me and gives me the least hastle. I probably would use Mozilla if I did visit underground websites which are the most likely to post "f**k up IE code" on them.

Oh yeah, I have always had Javascript and ActiveX running, it is just that I stay away from little known websites.
 
Apr 29, 2004
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Originally posted by: Staples
VirtualLarry, I would probably use Mozilla but since I only visit a select few websites and when I google, I do not visit underground websites (or porn), so I have always had good luck with IE. When you install Mozilla, you do not have ActiveX installers for every plug in and video does not work. You have to tinker with everything to get it to work as well at IE does out of the box. It is a good browser but because the net is made for IE, there are a few webpages that do not work right with its rendering engine. As for now, IE works well for me and gives me the least hastle. I probably would use Mozilla if I did visit underground websites which are the most likely to post "f**k up IE code" on them.

Oh yeah, I have always had Javascript and ActiveX running, it is just that I stay away from little known websites.

Consider yourself *lucky*, not prudent....

Internet Security: eWeek.com Special Report

Internet Explorer Is Too Dangerous to Keep Using

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Scriptless IE Not Worth It

Crackers Unleash Spyware Tactics on IE Holes

Resellers Looking Beyond IE

How to Replace Internet Explorer

IE Flaws Boost Browser Switching

IE Users Seek Security Answers, New Features

IE Exploit Attacks Another Piece of ActiveX

-LS
 

fustercluck

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Dec 29, 2002
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Does firefox time out a lot when it tries to connect to sites for anyone else? It does for me, sites that i know are up.
 

Slogun

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Originally posted by: Staples
VirtualLarry, I would probably use Mozilla but since I only visit a select few websites and when I google, I do not visit underground websites (or porn), so I have always had good luck with IE. When you install Mozilla, you do not have ActiveX installers for every plug in and video does not work. You have to tinker with everything to get it to work as well at IE does out of the box. It is a good browser but because the net is made for IE, there are a few webpages that do not work right with its rendering engine. As for now, IE works well for me and gives me the least hastle. I probably would use Mozilla if I did visit underground websites which are the most likely to post "f**k up IE code" on them.

Oh yeah, I have always had Javascript and ActiveX running, it is just that I stay away from little known websites.


You have to fiddle with Mozilla to get it to work right, true that.

However, the problems with IE have nothing to do with "underground" sites.
If you have read the news in the past two weeks you would learn that hundreds of legitimate websites have been infected by a new form of internet virus that is designed to gleen your password and other identity info through vulnerabilities in IE.

So, if you use IE to buy anything online or for online banking, eBay, PayPal, or have any financial information password protected you are at risk of this information being available to the hackers.

So, that's what the guy meant by you being "lucky, not prudent."

I, myself have always liked the way IE works, but just switched to Mozilla (works better for me at present than Firefox) to avoid IE's vulnerabilities, which now seem to be much too severe. Much, much better odds of being hacked now than winning the lottery.

So, who does NOT use the internet to make credit card purchases, online banking, etc?
 

VirtualLarry

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Originally posted by: Staples
VirtualLarry, I would probably use Mozilla but since I only visit a select few websites and when I google, I do not visit underground websites (or porn), so I have always had good luck with IE. When you install Mozilla, you do not have ActiveX installers for every plug in and video does not work. You have to tinker with everything to get it to work as well at IE does out of the box. It is a good browser but because the net is made for IE, there are a few webpages that do not work right with its rendering engine. As for now, IE works well for me and gives me the least hastle. I probably would use Mozilla if I did visit underground websites which are the most likely to post "f**k up IE code" on them.

Oh yeah, I have always had Javascript and ActiveX running, it is just that I stay away from little known websites.

That's just the thing though - the prevailing user attitude (and I'm not picking on you specifically, just trying to use your post as a way to illustrate the issue, so that perhaps more people will see and realize this), is that IE users only get affected by "bad sites", and as long as you don't go there, you will be safe.

That is also emphatically not true, as proven by the recent rash of intentional exploits, (allegedly) russian hackers broke into a large number of well-known, big-name, corporate web sites, and get them to attach a piece of trojan code into their "footer" HTML (when running IIS), and then the browser, due to it's own lack of security, would automatically and silently execute that code, and install a keylogger on your own PC, to collect credit-card numbers and passwords and other personal details, and ship then off to some web site in Russia for the criminals to make use of.

That is the same sort of thinking the people had, when the so-called "AIDS epidemic" was on the rise - that "the disease" only affected homosexuals and intravenous drug users. As long as you were neither of those, you still didn't need to use protection, because that disease wouldn't affect you. That proved untrue, as I believe that the same line of thinking along with insecure browsers will also. Surfing the net with IE, as it currently stands, is like having unprotected sex. Really. All kinds of nasties can find their way in. Granted, you can indeed reduce your risks, by not going to known "bad" sites, but that doesn't make you immune, either. The better solution is to use a "better browser", in the first place.

Here is another article, this one containing some interesting quotes:
"It's safe to say that IE is not safe to use," says Mikko Hyppönen, director of antivirus research at Helsinki antivirus company F-Secure. "I don't use it and I know of companies that have banned it all together," he says.
The U.S. Computer Emergency Readiness Team, or US-CERT, also recently suggested that users reduce exposure to IE vulnerabilities by using a different browser.

PS. The net was not "made for IE", in fact IE was incredibly late to the party. The fact that IE showed up, with several friends named Windows, and WMP, both toting shotguns, did tend to end that party pretty quickly though.

PPS. All of the major media datatypes, also come packed as an .XPI installer now, for Firefox at least, which with default settings, will prompt you to auto-install them, just like IE does with ActiveX controls. Tried visiting update.mozilla.org yet?
 

L1FE

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I agree that it takes quite a bit of tinkering to get Firefox (0.9.1 + patch for me) to work the way you want it to (such as going to the tips and tricks section for Firefox help). But then, to get IE to work the way I want it to, I also have to jump through hoops (such as downloading MyIE, google toolbar, etc etc). Really, it's whatever floats your boat.
 

Mecheater

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Curious, does anybody know if you can get the previously viewed pages to move to the top of location "address" bar? (ie. IE when you click on a URL you already viewed it moves from the bottom or where it was and then to the top)

Thanks

If this should be in the other forums, sorry.
 

gahh

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Aug 17, 2003
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How does firefox compare to opera? Also, whats different between firefox and mozilla? Thanks.
 

masterxfob

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Originally posted by: Elvis2
Any extension I would need or any other way to get Firefox to open my old IE shortcuts without first giving me an error message?

that's my only gripe with firefox so far. i get the error message only when i pick start > favorites, but the page still loads and it's not a problem when i open favorites within firefox.
 

joetzzz

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Jul 13, 2004
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Originally posted by: masterxfob
Originally posted by: Elvis2
Any extension I would need or any other way to get Firefox to open my old IE shortcuts without first giving me an error message?

that's my only gripe with firefox so far. i get the error message only when i pick start > favorites, but the page still loads and it's not a problem when i open favorites within firefox.


I have written a program that should solve that problem. Here's the link.

http://jeeradej.free.nnsol.com/mozdev/openurlinfirefox/

It works only on Windows. You can then go to Folder Option and set it as default action if you like.
 

Slogun

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Jul 4, 2001
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Originally posted by: joetzzz
Originally posted by: masterxfob
Originally posted by: Elvis2
Any extension I would need or any other way to get Firefox to open my old IE shortcuts without first giving me an error message?

that's my only gripe with firefox so far. i get the error message only when i pick start > favorites, but the page still loads and it's not a problem when i open favorites within firefox.


I have written a program that should solve that problem. Here's the link.

http://jeeradej.free.nnsol.com/mozdev/openurlinfirefox/

It works only on Windows. You can then go to Folder Option and set it as default action if you like.

Hey that sounds great, will have to try it when I get home.
While we're on a topic like this, anybody know a way to sort the bookmarks so that folders are listed first?
 

dijit

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Aug 7, 2002
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Originally posted by: Slogun
Hey that sounds great, will have to try it when I get home.
While we're on a topic like this, anybody know a way to sort the bookmarks so that folders are listed first?

There is an extension to sort bookmarks under the "Bookmarks" category on the Mozilla's extensions webpage.
 

Slogun

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Jul 4, 2001
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Originally posted by: dijit
Originally posted by: Slogun
Hey that sounds great, will have to try it when I get home.
While we're on a topic like this, anybody know a way to sort the bookmarks so that folders are listed first?

There is an extension to sort bookmarks under the "Bookmarks" category on the Mozilla's extensions webpage.

Yes, that sort extension does work well, thx for the tip.

However, that program that joetzzz wrote, though an improvement, does not work adequately for me. It opens with the browser minimized and still involves too much clicking. I have a lot of internet shortcuts in my quick launch tray where I like to single click my links open.

So, for now, I am sticking with the Mozilla browser till Firefox better meets my needs.
 

lesch2k

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just upgraded, really like the tab feature.

still cant figure out how to change the order of bookmarks though. a shiny nickle* to anyone who can suggest how i do this.

*will be payed via paypal **

** will actually be paid - i'm an honest guy and i can spare it***

*** unless you dont want the 5 cents in which case it's okay with me

heck, if i dont get a response in the next 48 hours and i havent figured it out by then i'll up the offer to a dime, 2 nickles and 8 pennies
 

Slogun

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Jul 4, 2001
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Originally posted by: lesch2k
just upgraded, really like the tab feature.

still cant figure out how to change the order of bookmarks though. a shiny nickle* to anyone who can suggest how i do this.

*will be payed via paypal **

** will actually be paid - i'm an honest guy and i can spare it***

*** unless you dont want the 5 cents in which case it's okay with me

heck, if i dont get a response in the next 48 hours and i havent figured it out by then i'll up the offer to a dime, 2 nickles and 8 pennies

Use
this extension. Install, close browser, restart browser, go to bookmarks/sort bookmarks.

You can keep your $.05, my good deed for the day.
 

Scyber

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Originally posted by: lesch2k
just upgraded, really like the tab feature.

still cant figure out how to change the order of bookmarks though. a shiny nickle* to anyone who can suggest how i do this.

Can't you just go to Bookmarks->Manage Bookmarks and the click and drag the bookmark to where you want it? I don't think I installed anything special and I can do that.
 

Slogun

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Jul 4, 2001
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Originally posted by: Scyber
Originally posted by: lesch2k
just upgraded, really like the tab feature.

still cant figure out how to change the order of bookmarks though. a shiny nickle* to anyone who can suggest how i do this.

Can't you just go to Bookmarks->Manage Bookmarks and the click and drag the bookmark to where you want it? I don't think I installed anything special and I can do that.
You need the extension in order to get Firefox to sort the bookmarks alphabetically with folders listed first the way microsoft does it by default.
 
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