Originally posted by: AnyMal
People who pay for pirated music = morons.
Please explain how the tracks on AllOfMP3 are anymore pirated then the tracks on iTunes...if you can.
Originally posted by: AnyMal
People who pay for pirated music = morons.
Originally posted by: AnyMal
People who pay for pirated music = morons.
Originally posted by: Grimm1
Originally posted by: AnyMal
People who pay for pirated music = morons.
Please explain how the tracks on AllOfMP3 are anymore pirated then the tracks on iTunes...if you can.
Napster was NEVER legal. They were simply enough of annoyance to RIAA to enforce DMCA against Napster.Originally posted by: littlebitstrouds
Remember at one time Napster wasn't illegal... it wasn't anything as there was NO LAW against it. It would seem that this is fact is one of those loopholes that will certainly be taken care of at some point, however is completely legit for the time being.
Originally posted by: AnyMal
Originally posted by: Grimm1
Originally posted by: AnyMal
People who pay for pirated music = morons.
Please explain how the tracks on AllOfMP3 are anymore pirated then the tracks on iTunes...if you can.
Ummm... iTunes pays royalties to the copyright holders. Enough difference for you?
Napster was NEVER legal. They were simply enough of annoyance to RIAA to enforce DMCA against Napster.Originally posted by: littlebitstrouds
Remember at one time Napster wasn't illegal... it wasn't anything as there was NO LAW against it. It would seem that this is fact is one of those loopholes that will certainly be taken care of at some point, however is completely legit for the time being.
Originally posted by: AnyMal
Originally posted by: Grimm1
Originally posted by: AnyMal
People who pay for pirated music = morons.
Please explain how the tracks on AllOfMP3 are anymore pirated then the tracks on iTunes...if you can.
Ummm... iTunes pays royalties to the copyright holders. Enough difference for you?
Napster was NEVER legal. They were simply enough of annoyance to RIAA to enforce DMCA against Napster.Originally posted by: littlebitstrouds
Remember at one time Napster wasn't illegal... it wasn't anything as there was NO LAW against it. It would seem that this is fact is one of those loopholes that will certainly be taken care of at some point, however is completely legit for the time being.
Gaming kids expression.Originally posted by: jurovi
what does that mean?
FTW?
Originally posted by: littlebitstrouds
You find me the written law that says the sharing of digital music files is illegal before 2000? Hence not really illegal, there needs to be a law before something can be deemed "illegal." You can have "rights" which are being violated but there's a difference.
Originally posted by: AnyMal
Originally posted by: Grimm1
Originally posted by: AnyMal
People who pay for pirated music = morons.
Please explain how the tracks on AllOfMP3 are anymore pirated then the tracks on iTunes...if you can.
Ummm... iTunes pays royalties to the copyright holders. Enough difference for you?
Napster was NEVER legal. They were simply enough of annoyance to RIAA to enforce DMCA against Napster.Originally posted by: littlebitstrouds
Remember at one time Napster wasn't illegal... it wasn't anything as there was NO LAW against it. It would seem that this is fact is one of those loopholes that will certainly be taken care of at some point, however is completely legit for the time being.
Originally posted by: kyotousa
are they lossless quality?
Napster was NEVER legal. They were simply enough of annoyance to RIAA to enforce DMCA against Napster.[/quote]Originally posted by: littlebitstrouds
Remember at one time Napster wasn't illegal... it wasn't anything as there was NO LAW against it. It would seem that this is fact is one of those loopholes that will certainly be taken care of at some point, however is completely legit for the time being.
Originally posted by: littlebitstrouds
You find me the written law that says the sharing of digital music files is illegal before 2000? Hence not really illegal, there needs to be a law before something can be deemed "illegal." You can have "rights" which are being violated but there's a difference.
Originally posted by: littlebitstrouds
Napster was NEVER legal. They were simply enough of annoyance to RIAA to enforce DMCA against Napster.Originally posted by: littlebitstrouds
Remember at one time Napster wasn't illegal... it wasn't anything as there was NO LAW against it. It would seem that this is fact is one of those loopholes that will certainly be taken care of at some point, however is completely legit for the time being.
Originally posted by: littlebitstrouds
You find me the written law that says the sharing of digital music files is illegal before 2000? Hence not really illegal, there needs to be a law before something can be deemed "illegal." You can have "rights" which are being violated but there's a difference.
Thanks to all,Originally posted by: bum
I use allofmp3.com. Same idea (Russian mp3 site) but probably more established with a bigger selection. I'm not sure if it is illegal in the U.S., but I use it because of the high quality rips I need (220 kbps lame vbr). The time I save not having to look for the right files is worth my 10 cents.
Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
Well, you can also get pre-paid credit cards if you're scared of doing business with a Russian company.
Originally posted by: AnyMal
Go ahead and pay the pirates, what do I care.
Originally posted by: mikeford
Originally posted by: AnyMal
Go ahead and pay the pirates, what do I care.
Please clarify this, do you mean the RIAA with their cartel style price fixing and shrink wrap so you can't listen to an album before you buy, or return it later if it stinks, or some other group?
Perhaps we have come full circle here. Many things you have said are true. But so far you have shown nothing that proves that what AllOfMP3 is doing is illegal in Russia or that it is illegal to use that service from another country.Originally posted by: AnyMal
"Rights" are granted by "Law". Violating rights = breaking the law. I'm sure we don't need to mention the existence of copyright protection laws.
Originally posted by: Grimm1
Perhaps we have come full circle here. Many things you have said are true. But so far you have shown nothing that proves that what AllOfMP3 is doing is illegal in Russia or that it is illegal to use that service from another country.Originally posted by: AnyMal
"Rights" are granted by "Law". Violating rights = breaking the law. I'm sure we don't need to mention the existence of copyright protection laws.
Do you agree that if they are obtaining them legally in Russia and selling them legally in Russia that they are not "pirated tracks"?
Originally posted by: AnyMal
Originally posted by: Grimm1
Perhaps we have come full circle here. Many things you have said are true. But so far you have shown nothing that proves that what AllOfMP3 is doing is illegal in Russia or that it is illegal to use that service from another country.Originally posted by: AnyMal
"Rights" are granted by "Law". Violating rights = breaking the law. I'm sure we don't need to mention the existence of copyright protection laws.
Do you agree that if they are obtaining them legally in Russia and selling them legally in Russia that they are not "pirated tracks"?
Sorry, I do not agree. Walk down most any street in a typical russian town and you'll find vendors peddling CD's of the latest releases for about $2.00 About 90% of CD's (as well as DVD's and software) sold in Russia are pirated. Problem is mostly due to the fact that very few russians can afford to buy licensed CD's. Contributing to this is the fact that Russia is corrupt through and through. The problem is not limited to western artists, it affects domestic musicians as well.
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Originally posted by: Grimm1
Originally posted by: AnyMal
Originally posted by: Grimm1
Perhaps we have come full circle here. Many things you have said are true. But so far you have shown nothing that proves that what AllOfMP3 is doing is illegal in Russia or that it is illegal to use that service from another country.Originally posted by: AnyMal
"Rights" are granted by "Law". Violating rights = breaking the law. I'm sure we don't need to mention the existence of copyright protection laws.
Do you agree that if they are obtaining them legally in Russia and selling them legally in Russia that they are not "pirated tracks"?
Sorry, I do not agree. Walk down most any street in a typical russian town and you'll find vendors peddling CD's of the latest releases for about $2.00 About 90% of CD's (as well as DVD's and software) sold in Russia are pirated. Problem is mostly due to the fact that very few russians can afford to buy licensed CD's. Contributing to this is the fact that Russia is corrupt through and through. The problem is not limited to western artists, it affects domestic musicians as well.
You can read more here.
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Even more
I read it...it does nothing to support the allegation that AllOfMP3 sells "pirated tracks". It seems the only argument you have is that pirating CD's in Russia is rampant and since AllOfMP3 is in Russia they are therefor pirating music. Not a very strong case or good use of logic.
From everything I have read AllOfMP3 is obeying the law. An argument could be made that it may be an outdated law or a law that shouldn't be interpreted for on-line sales of music in the first place. But until that day comes and they make a change to the law or declare that new law needs to apply to this type of business they are a legitimate business and not the same as a pirate selling copies in the street.
Originally posted by: Grimm1
Originally posted by: AnyMal
Originally posted by: Grimm1
Perhaps we have come full circle here. Many things you have said are true. But so far you have shown nothing that proves that what AllOfMP3 is doing is illegal in Russia or that it is illegal to use that service from another country.Originally posted by: AnyMal
"Rights" are granted by "Law". Violating rights = breaking the law. I'm sure we don't need to mention the existence of copyright protection laws.
Do you agree that if they are obtaining them legally in Russia and selling them legally in Russia that they are not "pirated tracks"?
Sorry, I do not agree. Walk down most any street in a typical russian town and you'll find vendors peddling CD's of the latest releases for about $2.00 About 90% of CD's (as well as DVD's and software) sold in Russia are pirated. Problem is mostly due to the fact that very few russians can afford to buy licensed CD's. Contributing to this is the fact that Russia is corrupt through and through. The problem is not limited to western artists, it affects domestic musicians as well.
You can read more here.
More
Even more
I read it...it does nothing to support the allegation that AllOfMP3 sells "pirated tracks". It seems the only argument you have is that pirating CD's in Russia is rampant and since AllOfMP3 is in Russia they are therefor pirating music. Not a very strong case or good use of logic.
From everything I have read AllOfMP3 is obeying the law. An argument could be made that it may be an outdated law or a law that shouldn't be interpreted for on-line sales of music in the first place. But until that day comes and they make a change to the law or declare that new law needs to apply to this type of business they are a legitimate business and not the same as a pirate selling copies in the street.
Originally posted by: AnyMal
People who pay for pirated music = morons.
Originally posted by: Kwad Guy
Either you should download from legitimate channels (iTunes, Yahoo, VirginDigital, etc.) or else you might as well just steal the stuff from a fileserver. All you do here is help fund the Russian Mafia. Why bother?
Kwad