5 to 10 a month?
WOW... I am 3 or 4 a YEAR. Seriously Get my cane and shawl..
Yes, I do more PC games. Maybe 4-5.
Everyday I learn something. Sometimes...... It scares the crrap out of me.
Nope, I don't think Netflix on console is a decision driver at all. It's dumb of MS to paywall it for no good reason, but overall it's a big fat zero in terms of 'does this matter'?
In fact, none of the media portions of consoles really matter worth a damn. All those PS3s sold simply to be HTPC-like devices and bluray players typically never sold games, which is how they make their real money. The more someone uses the console to do something OTHER than gaming, the companies aren't banking. After all, paying for XBL or PS+ is an annoyance, but it's not really very much money in the big picture. They make their real cash on that guy who buys 5-10 games a month.
I mean seriously, were we supposed to be amazed that we could watch TV? We've only been watching TV for decades with no trouble. Amazed that we could do fantasy football? I can do that on my smartphone and take it with me. I'm still not sure what they were thinking with the reveal.
In regards to the other post about Microsoft not telling us why we should want Kinect, I feel like we already know what it's about. Anything extra is just going to have to be innovated upon, which is a plus of it being included with every single console. I completely understand not wanting to wait for possible innovation, though.
I really despise this sentiment. Who CARES if the Kinect had to be connected all the time. IT STILL comes with the Xbox One. You might as well have it connected. There are many features that probably won't ever be touched because of this.
"Real Gamers" Have essentially bullied companies into not doing any innovation, and sticking with the same phucking model of "Graphics graphics graphics." This isn't what the majority of gamers want, it's just what gamers who are "nerdy" enough to follow a consoles development and complain.
I had no problem with the Kinect, the graphics of the Xbox One, the Used Game thing, or ANYTHING actually. The only problem I had was with MS's explanation of why I should want their product. They showed no good implementations of the Kinect, Showed no good use of the cloud, and didn't explain the fact that you could share games among family members. The just marketed the thing terribly so people hated it.
"Real Gamers" and "Real Hardware Enthusiasts" can really be short sighted. I'm happy that at least Intel doesn't listen to "Real Hardware Enthusiasts" otherwise we'd have no interest in tablets/notebooks and instead 200-300W TDP parts being pushed onto people who simply want to do Facebook on their PC.
Incorrect. Real gamers aren't interested in fancy graphics or demos that show off pre-rendered scenes to trick you into thinking it's the best looking game ever. No, real gamers want compelling storylines, character development, fun gameplay, maybe good multiplayer experiences, and rich content in the games that keeps them going with it for hours. Graphics are nice and can be used to further the immersion, but only "dude bro" gamers actually put any emphasis on it in terms of rating a game highly.
that is such a stupid term to throw around. it's also pretty stupid that you are generalizing what they all want, just because you lump yourself into the category.
at least use the other stupid term, "core gamer", since everyone who plays a game, is a real person, therefore a real gamer.
i know many "real gamers" who don't even play multiplayer at all, then i know many "real gamers" who don't play single player games at all.
You call it BS, I don't. Again, what happened to just saying "pass" on a product? You hop on here and blah blah blah blah blah bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch. That's all I see anymore. Are you not done blabbing about the "utter garbage"?
Don't get all butthurt because Microsoft doesn't share your vision of what a console should be.
Incorrect. Real gamers aren't interested in fancy graphics or demos that show off pre-rendered scenes to trick you into thinking it's the best looking game ever. No, real gamers want compelling storylines, character development, fun gameplay, maybe good multiplayer experiences, and rich content in the games that keeps them going with it for hours. Graphics are nice and can be used to further the immersion, but only "dude bro" gamers actually put any emphasis on it in terms of rating a game highly.
The true gamers want to know that if they buy a physical copy of a game and want to bring it to a friend's house for some co-op, that the game will function in their friend's console and won't be locked out of being played when they visit their cousin in the summer.
Wrong. If the "dudebro" gamers cared about graphics, they wouldn't be playing Call of Duty. They wouldn't be playing on a console either. The only people who care about graphics are PC gamers. Look at everyone clamoring over the "omg the PS4 has 5000 more ROPs than the Xbox One" that is being spewed. Console gamers don't give a crap.
Wrong again. Only a small section of cheap gamers care about that. PC gamers (which are "real gamers" as well) don't care about their physical discs. 2004 already showed this happened and it was better for the industry. Steam didn't gain it's marketshare from having great sales (that didn't happen until much later). It became the standard because it was convenient, not that intrusive DRM. Console gamers were immune because until this gen, the internet wasn't really a huge part of console games.
Millions of people refused to buy into Microsoft's plan because they did care about this. They are all gamers, many of whom supported the xbox brand for over a decade. It's not a small fraction at all. It's not just PC gamers who want graphics, why do you think the first thing people say about a new game trailer is how good or how awful the characters and game world look?
Some people need to stop living in a fantasy world. Millions and millions of people did not want an Xbox One because of what MS announced, now I guarantee they get sales they would have otherwise lost.
LOL.
says the guy claiming "millions and millions of people" had already made up their mind about a console that is months from being in the store.
ALRIGHT THEN.
this forum has turned into the cookoo's nest.
I think the 4 to 1 pre-sales figures counts as millions.
I think the 4 to 1 pre-sales figures counts as millions.
Yeah they did, if you don't think so then explain what made Microsoft change nearly every single thing they planed to do with the XB1 that was mentioned as a negative? Cause they saw the potential sales go way down that's why. If it wasn't a huge number, they wouldn't give a damn.
Because the negativity started leaking into the main press, who reported on it for lots of people to make snap judgments.
Let's be honest, you're claim of millions and millions is pretty dumb when the console is 3 months out.
What is this, amateur hour? Cite a source with those kinds of posts, otherwise you're just making shit up.
We saw no numbers. Have you? Where's your source to prove everyone else but you is wrong? FFS quit trying to debunk everything when you can't prove otherwise. It was believed up until the 180 MS took that PS pre-orders were outselling MS 4 to 1.
What kills me is that people are still crying "lies lies lies" when 99% of everything that was said about MS plans turned out to be true and you people still act naive and blind. Good grief sheeple. So blind it's no wonder the world is going down the drain.
There is a difference between exaggeration and falsehood. Just because numbers might not be exact doesn't disprove the point. But of course when you can't do anything but defend against something (which as you say isn't even out yet), I understand "real fake numbers" is all you can hope to defend with.
I for one am glad for the snap judgements. Companies need to be reminded on occasion who is really in control. The problem with many these days is they think they are untouchable.
HAH ... the strawman is strong with this one.
We saw no numbers. Have you? Where's your source to prove everyone else but you is wrong? FFS quit trying to debunk everything when you can't prove otherwise. It was believed up until the 180 MS took that PS pre-orders were outselling MS 4 to 1.
Where's my source? When did I make a claim to know preorder numbers? My only claim was that you were making shit up. My source on that claim is in the quote above where you say "we saw no numbers".
Listen, just because I'm taking the stance I am doesn't mean I'm pro-Microsoft and anti-Sony. If I had my druthers, I'd see them finish in a dead heat going into the generation after that. I have no problem with the PS4, it looks like a fine machine that is in many ways better than the X1. There's no denying this, I never have. But I'm also not coming in here and pulling numbers out of my ass to try to stick it to us "Microsoft boys".
The simple fact of the matter is that the Sony fan force has been absolutely ridiculous with these new consoles, like they've been waiting 7 years for Sony to do something right and they've been waiting to pounce. Only problem is that they (and you) haven't gotten off the dead horse yet.
Yeah as if anything mentioned as a possible negative about MS or the XB1 isn't met with pitchforks and torches.